Patenaude

Patenaude is going nowhere after this season. Sorry to all the ööööö.s. out there calling for this. Firing the OC after year 1 goes against the narrative of a major transition from the 3-O to pro concepts. He will be OC next season unless he gets hired away {snickers to himself}.
 
I think we already could feel that Big Dave prolly wasn't going to make the curtain call. I'm sure there are handshakes between himself and CGC that need to be honored before his throat is cut. Such is big boi college life on the hard streets of Techwood. Beeware my friend.
 
Not sold on him but the OL we have isn’t ideal for what we are trying to do and the WR’s I don’t feel are ready for what the coaches want to do. There is no excuse in that we should have beaten Citadel today. No coach speak can get around that.
 
This is Tucker said:
They can't block the package that they have Johnson running. An fcs defense was running loose in the backfield like they were Clemmons or something...
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The big problem is we can not block anyone! Play calling is limited by being unable to block!
 
This is Tucker said:
They can't block the package that they have Johnson running. An fcs defense was running loose in the backfield like they were Clemmons or something...
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Well we do have two walk-ons starting now that Jahaziel went out and looks to be gone for a long time. I don't really know what offense we can run that doesn't require competent OL play.

We will win however many games that we can hold the opposition to less than 10 points (which may be 0 games). Our defense is NOT good for the triple option, but has shown it's at least OK otherwise.
 
FSU O went from horrendous to scoring with better coaching. Patenaude is now the worse GT OC I’ve even watched. Congratulations Pat Nix, you’ve been promoted.
 
txsting said:
Well we do have two walk-ons starting now that Jahaziel went out and looks to be gone for a long time. I don't really know what offense we can run that doesn't require competent OL play.

We will win however many games that we can hold the opposition to less than 10 points (which may be 0 games). Our defense is NOT good for the triple option, but has shown it's at least OK otherwise.
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Our D is bad for the 3O because it over pursues. It is also why Trevor Lawrence and the usf qb ran all over us.
 
gnats67 said:
I think we already could feel that Big Dave prolly wasn't going to make the curtain call. I'm sure there are handshakes between himself and CGC that need to be honored before his throat is cut. Such is big boi college life on the hard streets of Techwood. Beeware my friend.
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This is the answer. Go look where Collins and Pat first met.
 
More and more, I am thinking that Patenaude got the gig because no OC on an upward career trajectory would want to take on the transition. He is also being paid lower than a bargain basement salary, essentially position coach level. His background gave hope he could make the best of what we have, but I doubt he was ever intended to be here long.
 
smokey_wasp said:
More and more, I am thinking that Patenaude got the gig because no OC on an upward career trajectory would want to take on the transition. He is also being paid lower than a bargain basement salary, essentially position coach level. His background gave hope he could make the best of what we have, but I doubt he was ever intended to be here long.
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No one at Temple cared that Patenaude left. We could have picked off a position coach somewhere. Or let Key call the plays. At least we would have a solution to the 1st and 1 riddle.
 
smokey_wasp said:
More and more, I am thinking that Patenaude got the gig because no OC on an upward career trajectory would want to take on the transition. He is also being paid lower than a bargain basement salary, essentially position coach level. His background gave hope he could make the best of what we have, but I doubt he was ever intended to be here long.
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Exactly this. Where is the top-flight OC that would taken on this thankless job of transforming this team for love or money? And where’s the 1-Million $ coming from to pay said top-flight OC?
 
THWG247 said:
Exactly this. Where is the top-flight OC that would taken on this thankless job of transforming this team for love or money? And where’s the 1-Million $ coming from to pay said top-flight OC?
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That’s a very good point, of course.

The real issue for discussion at this point is to question whether we should be subbing freely at the QB position at all times, even in the middle of a set of downs, and to wonder if we should be trying to run an offense that we don’t have the athletes to run.

Clearly we have the ability to put an offense on the field that can move the ball, led by Oliver. I think most of us here are wondering why, at this point, that he hasn’t earned the starting role, and that we don’t try to build an offense around him that can move the ball and score points.
 
coit said:
That’s a very good point, of course.

The real issue for discussion at this point is to question whether we should be subbing freely at the QB position at all times, even in the middle of a set of downs, and to wonder if we should be trying to run an offense that we don’t have the athletes to run.

Clearly we have the ability to put an offense on the field that can move the ball, led by Oliver. I think most of us here are wondering why, at this point, that he hasn’t earned the starting role, and that we don’t try to build an offense around him that can move the ball and score points.
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+1000
 
txsting said:
Well we do have two walk-ons starting now that Jahaziel went out and looks to be gone for a long time. I don't really know what offense we can run that doesn't require competent OL play.

We will win however many games that we can hold the opposition to less than 10 points (which may be 0 games). Our defense is NOT good for the triple option, but has shown it's at least OK otherwise.
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I saw #8 go right down the field twice behind that O-line. I saw the other guy go backwards and consistently underthrow receivers all day--even the 2 long ones he completed were just awful. I don't give a öööö about 404 takeover, Waffle House, juices crews and money downs when you're losing to bad FCS schools. Those things make you look like an idiot. I don't want the coaches to treat Saturday like it's ööööing practice. Win the goddamn game. Put the guys in who can do the job if your "best practicers" suck on Saturday.
 
coit said:
That’s a very good point, of course.

The real issue for discussion at this point is to question whether we should be subbing freely at the QB position at all times, even in the middle of a set of downs, and to wonder if we should be trying to run an offense that we don’t have the athletes to run.

Clearly we have the ability to put an offense on the field that can move the ball, led by Oliver. I think most of us here are wondering why, at this point, that he hasn’t earned the starting role, and that we don’t try to build an offense around him that can move the ball and score points.
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I agree about changing the QB so much, it’s an awful concept. The coaches imo are trying do do enough to win (by running Tobius) and simultaneously build towards the future by playing our best passer LJ. It’s a catch-22 i guess? Try to win a few games now or try to implement radical change and build for the future?
 
WracerX said:
No one at Temple cared that Patenaude left. We could have picked off a position coach somewhere. Or let Key call the plays. At least we would have a solution to the 1st and 1 riddle.
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Oh god, don't do that. Brent has already got one staff fired because he doesn't know how to put a game plan together. We don't need Tashard and Marco and the rest in the unemployment line because of Brent's inept play calling.

In fact, I'd be curious to know how much Brent is involved in our game planning currently. Our jumbled mess of an offense looks eerily similar to his 2015 offense at UCF.
 
Ed Sawyer said:
Oh god, don't do that. Brent has already got one staff fired because he doesn't know how to put a game plan together. We don't need Tashard and Marco and the rest in the unemployment line because of Brent's inept play calling.

In fact, I'd be curious to know how much Brent is involved in our game planning currently. Our jumbled mess of an offense looks eerily similar to his 2015 offense at UCF.
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That is one hell of a scary hot take.
 
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