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Jorge said:
Can we trade Patenaude for the UL Monroe OC who got his offense to score 44 points on FSU?
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The guy needs some time and likely a recruiting cycle or two. CPJ’s offense was dick for much of his year 1....thankfully for him Tenuta had trained those boys on the other side up right!
 
Diseqc said:
I’m not impressed with Paterdude. For all of the “NFL” style offense comments, we run Oliver out there and just have him run it every ööööing play.

If this is a rebuilding year, quit with the “gives us the best chance at winning” bullshit. Run the offense you ultimately want to get the reps. Wasting time with Oliver at this point is just dumb.
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Don't need him, don't want him, doesn't fit the system?
 
etc79 said:
I’m just tired of them saying this is a “Pro style” offense. I know they have an uphill battle, but geez don’t tell me this offense is pro style
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We could use some pro style route concepts that attack multiple levels of the defense. We look like FSU last year only throwing 3 yds downfield, not breaking tackles, and not spreading the defense out. We've got to stretch folks vertically. When we have, our route spacing has been bad and the 1 deep throw today had no air under it. It's just ugly stuff.
 
BainbridgeJacket said:
We could use some pro style route concepts that attack multiple levels of the defense. We look like FSU last year only throwing 3 yds downfield, not breaking tackles, and not spreading the defense out. We've got to stretch folks vertically. When we have, our route spacing has been bad and the 1 deep throw today had no air under it. It's just ugly stuff.
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Yeah, cause our O line is going to allow enough time for deep throws.
 
BackstreetBuzz said:
Do you have a clue the we lost to this team last year, but won today? We are very thin on offensive talent (WRs, OLs, QBs) because nobody wanted to play in the 3O. We will be much better when CGC gets some players in here.
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Anybody actually remember that defense and special teams lost the game last year despite the offense lighting them up? CPJ must have been a genius to score all those points with these shitty players.

JRjr
 
EffinDane said:
FEI offensive rankings
2007: #62
2008: #42
2009: #19
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2008 total points was 24.4 ppg, ranked 74th in the country. That’s without a bare offensive cupboard...had Nesbitt, Dwyer, Roddy and BeyBey on that offense. Plus Clayton, Uzzi, Andrew Gardner, Cord Howard, among others across the OL.

Look...our offense has been bad through 2 games, but it’s a major transition. Was always going to take time. I expect it to look better later in the year and even better next season. Can’t fairly judge after the first few games.
 
Needing time to install is a valid excuse. But stop with the personnel stuff. That is absolute bullshit.

TaQuon ööööing Marshall passed for 183 yards on this team last year. Don't try to tell me that he is a better passer than LJ or JG. Our receiving corps is also better than last year, and we have some very good RBs. Yeah, the OL is struggling, but let's not act like we had a bunch of road graders last year. They still helped us rush for over 400 yds on USF.

I'm happy we won, but I'm already tired of the "bad players" excuses. For years I watched GT teams with similar talent to this one put up yards and points every week. We made that USF team look like a sieve last year.

Our defense looks well-coached. I just hope I can say the same about the offense by the end of the year.
 
JoeCakeEater said:
2008 total points was 24.4 ppg, ranked 74th in the country. That’s without a bare offensive cupboard...had Nesbitt, Dwyer, Roddy and BeyBey on that offense. Plus Clayton, Uzzi, Andrew Gardner, Cord Howard, among others across the OL.

Look...our offense has been bad through 2 games, but it’s a major transition. Was always going to take time. I expect it to look better later in the year and even better next season. Can’t fairly judge after the first few games.
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And those offensive players steadily improved under Johnson. Ppg is unscaled and basically meaningless.

If your point is "just wait", ok. But we only saw improvement under PJ for the first two years. There was no offensive regression, outside of a game where we were forced to play Booker.

We had an extremely good offense last year. We don't this year so far. Iiwii and it's part of the changeover, but let's not pretend that these offensive players weren't producing at a much higher level just a few months ago.
 
johncu said:
Needing time to install is a valid excuse. But stop with the personnel stuff. That is absolute bullshit.

TaQuon ööööing Marshall passed for 183 yards on this team last year.
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...and how many years did Taquon (and every other offensive starter) have learning the same offensive scheme? Also our passing game last year was 100% a product of the defense not expecting it. It had nothing to do with Quon’s quality as a passer.
 
There were several times when Tech made decent yardage on first down, then couldn't get another set of downs. On one drive there was a 9 yard pickup on first down and we ended up punting. Looked like play-calling was disjointed - little thought to down and distance and building momentum on a drive.
 
JoeCakeEater said:
...and how many years did Taquon (and every other offensive starter) have learning the same offensive scheme? Also our passing game last year was 100% a product of the defense not expecting it. It had nothing to do with Quon’s quality as a passer.
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That's why I said time to install is a valid excuse, to a certain degree. Lack of talent is not. We've had roughly the same talent level since 2010, so this is nothing new. In fact, I'd say our talent level is a bit higher this year due to slightly better recruiting recently.
 
ee8384 said:
There were several times when Tech made decent yardage on first down, then couldn't get another set of downs. On one drive there was a 9 yard pickup on first down and we ended up punting. Looked like play-calling was disjointed - little thought to down and distance and building momentum on a drive.
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Or maybe it was more a function of your starting left guard (Mikey Minihan) going down after 5 plays and your starting center (Kenny Cooper) going down after 16 offensive plays. And your usual center backup (Chet Lagod) was already out for the game so you ended up with a walk-on playing center almost the entire game. That's why there were so many bad snaps and so many people kept flying through the middle of the line.

I don't give a crap if you're Paul Johnson or Bill Belichick, you aren't going to call an effective game with your line like that.
johncu said:
That's why I said time to install is a valid excuse, to a certain degree. Lack of talent is not. We've had roughly the same talent level since 2010, so this is nothing new. In fact, I'd say our talent level is a bit higher this year due to slightly better recruiting recently.
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BS. We are thin as hell on the offensive line this year. See above. And only Southers, a graduate transfer from Vandy, has experience playing in a pro style offense (or was even recruited to play in a pro-style offense for that matter). You guys are delusional AF if you think there is talent on the lines.
 
Are we going to have a good defense and get a new OC every 2 or 3 years, each one sucking just like the one before?
 
I will say this outside of Play-Calling our Oliver and LJ were just eyeballing WRs and wasn't any progression. The one time I seen that was Graham on the deep cross where he did make some quick looks of course that one pass play was probably the best pass blocking we had of the game. It's hard to evaluate the overall QB play right now because not sure how much of it is by decision just quick no reads, play-calling, and of course bad blocking. In my opinion you got 3 QBs with all unique downfalls it seems so what do you do?

Oliver by far is the best runner but seems to lack much downfield passing ability and mechanics.
LJ is average in terms of running has a better arm and per coaches understanding of offense and reads...but he's been inaccurate at times
Graham in limited play seemingly has been the best of both worlds overall but he must have a limited grasp of offense that they don't feel comfortable with him out there that Sack in the one drive was a bad look but once again no blocking doesn't help
 
BuzzLaw said:
Are we going to have a good defense and get a new OC every 2 or 3 years, each one sucking just like the one before?
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I would argue if we had any semblance of a Oline that could pass block the QBs/Running backs would be able to do enough to at least have more consistency and scoring chances but I don't seen much hope for that in coming weeks. This Defense really showing promise and you got to like the overall direction it's headed with a big part of our recruiting being Defensive players it will only encourage them as we move along. The Secondary looks fantastic, Quez Jackson/D.Knight look solid at LB - sadly Curry just slow, D-line for lack of overall talent really got after it and played much Gap integrity plus Collins rotation heavy kept them fresh and they didn't really seem fatigued even on at hot day so the offseason program seemingly has done the job.
 
malak05 said:
I would argue if we had any semblance of a Oline that could pass block the QBs/Running backs would be able to do enough to at least have more consistency and scoring chances but I don't seen much hope for that in coming weeks. This Defense really showing promise and you got to like the overall direction it's headed with a big part of our recruiting being Defensive players it will only encourage them as we move along. The Secondary looks fantastic, Quez Jackson/D.Knight look solid at LB - sadly Curry just slow, D-line for lack of overall talent really got after it and played much Gap integrity plus Collins rotation heavy kept them fresh and they didn't really seem fatigued even on at hot day so the offseason program seemingly has done the job.
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Good for GC. He made our defense better. That’s great. But that doesn’t give him a pass on our offense
 
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