Paul Johnson

[RamblinWreck92]

This had me unglued. 7 minutes to go, down 3 td and he's trying to kill the clock with 40 second runoff for each play. Doesn't anyone say into the headset, lets pick up the pace? That's Butch Jones stupid. or he had already given up. And all the yes men around him weren't challenging him. Bad all around, embarrassing.

I'd really like to see a defense of this lack of urgency from the remaining CPJ supporters. Curious to see what scenario makes taking-half-the-damn-quarter-to-score-when-down-3-TDs the right thing to do esp. when we don't have a hurry-up package to resort to at any point in the game.

 

[MeatWrench]

I'd really like to see a defense of this lack of urgency from the remaining CPJ supporters. Curious to see what scenario makes taking-half-the-damn-quarter-to-score-when-down-3-TDs the right thing to do esp. when we don't have a hurry-up package to resort to at any point in the game.

I’ll take a swing at it though I wouldn’t consider myself a supporter as it were. TQM cannot throw so we run. When the announcers are bagging on your 5th year senior qb’s unhurried mechanics as they did several times during the game, it says it all.

 

[RamblinWreck92]

I’ll take a swing at it though I wouldn’t consider myself a supporter as it were. TQM cannot throw so we run. When the announcers are bagging on your 5th year senior qb’s unhurried mechanics as they did several times during the game, it says it all.

Frankly, there are only 2 options here to describe it:

1. CPJ is mind-bogglingly stupid to take that much time in an obvious hurry-up situation.
or
2. He knew we were going to lose.

 

[LeonardWood]

Frankly, there are only 2 options here to describe it:

1. CPJ is mind-bogglingly stupid to take that much time in an obvious hurry-up situation.
or
2. He knew we were going to lose.

3. changing the pace of the offense would lessen our chances of scoring. Better to stick to the plan and possibly run out of time rather than switch gears and confuse a team that's already struggling.

 

[Vespidie]

It is frustrating that we could allow more exceptions with no impact on our academic rankings. I see no evidence that Peterson cares about our athletic performance.

What's you talkin' bout Willis? Peterson can't even get a hold of his own administration when it comes to managing.

 

[Architorture23]

Nobody scoring touchdowns wants to care about college.

Georgia Tech is going to continue to have academic standards that are higher than you would like so just go pick another team to cheer for.

 

[gtg970g]

3. changing the pace of the offense would lessen our chances of scoring. Better to stick to the plan and possibly run out of time rather than switch gears and confuse a team that's already struggling.

4. He forgot Roof was no longer DC and didn't want the opponent to have any time left to score.

 

[RamblinWreck92]

3. changing the pace of the offense would lessen our chances of scoring. Better to stick to the plan and possibly run out of time rather than switch gears and confuse a team that's already struggling.

Possibly? LOL.

We weren't struggling - we scored 1000 pts against Loserville & BG! We were back!!

 

[LeonardWood]

Possibly? LOL.

We weren't struggling - we scored 1000 pts against Loserville & BG! We were back!!

You seem like a truly miserable person.

 

[RamblinWreck92]

You seem like a truly miserable person.

You are confusing me with CPJ.

 

[johncu]

I'd really like to see a defense of this lack of urgency from the remaining CPJ supporters. Curious to see what scenario makes taking-half-the-damn-quarter-to-score-when-down-3-TDs the right thing to do esp. when we don't have a hurry-up package to resort to at any point in the game.

I think you know the answer. Our QB cannot execute a normal passing offense, much less a 2 minute drill. Our OL and receivers don't do him any favors, but they're good enough that a competent passing QB would get it done.

I'm not going to argue with you about the need for a better passing game, though. We can beat up on lesser teams by relying on the run, and from time to time we can even overpower UGA, FSU, Clemson, etc. but we're never going to consistently compete at a high level if we can't have a legit passing threat. IMO the biggest reason 2009 and 2014 happened is because we had Nesbitt/Thomas at QB and Bay Bay/Smelter at WR that could make big plays and pick up 3rd and long when we needed it. Our offense was top 3 in the country both of those years, and IMO that is the #1 reason.

 

[killerB]

So many threads idk where to put my two cents. I'll be as brief as possible. GT is unique and requires a special coach imo. Not just a football coach. Many here want a badass football coach but those guys don't want the BS baggage at GT. Narrow candidate field. CPJ is starting to get many things he has requested. He should have time to take advantage of the facilities upgrades, additional recruiting analysts, etc. I see good things developing on defense. Every style of football needs a QB. Yes, other styles can find better QBs more easily than our style imo. You can hide bad QBs better in other styles than ours. But when GT has one, it's a beast that wins games. Let's see if LJ or JG is that guy. Or the recruit others have said is gonna be great at it. We got caught with no good QB for two years. It happens all over the places. Hell, UF hasn't had one since Tebow. How the hell did that happen?! Grier could've been that guy but he got popped for PEDs if I recall correctly.

New coaches don't always win with new school. CPJ did and we're reminded here all the time how he won with CCG players. Taggart hasn't. Mullen has. etc. I think there's talent here that a new guy could win with if we made a change. I'd selfishly like to see some option elements remain if a change is made. I've been a fan of the option long before we hired CPJ. BBs would make good RBs and ABs could make good slot receivers. Would find out real quick if any of the QBs could throw though.

And to the comment posted while I was typing, yes, one of the WRs has to step up and be a threat. My goodness, the one-on-ones need to be a threat! Also, would be nice to avoid some injuries for a year.

 

[Salter21]

The talent a new coach would inherit isn't remotely close to the talent CPJ inherited.

 

[ElCidBUZZingFAN]

The talent a new coach would inherit isn't remotely close to the talent CPJ inherited.

We really need to wean ourselves off the nutsack of the '07 class.

 

[killerB]

The talent a new coach would inherit isn't remotely close to the talent CPJ inherited.

Fingers crossed the new coach wins the ACC within the first 2 years so we can all say it was with CPJ's players tho #amirite

 

[RamblinWreck92]

I think you know the answer. Our QB cannot execute a normal passing offense, much less a 2 minute drill. Our OL and receivers don't do him any favors, but they're good enough that a competent passing QB would get it done.

I'm not going to argue with you about the need for a better passing game, though. We can beat up on lesser teams by relying on the run, and from time to time we can even overpower UGA, FSU, Clemson, etc. but we're never going to consistently compete at a high level if we can't have a legit passing threat. IMO the biggest reason 2009 and 2014 happened is because we had Nesbitt/Thomas at QB and Bay Bay/Smelter at WR that could make big plays and pick up 3rd and long when we needed it. Our offense was top 3 in the country both of those years, and IMO that is the #1 reason.

your honesty is appreciated and agreed with. It's just frustrating as hell to know that the game is over at that point in the 4th, watching us take forever to move the ball. It was a real amateur-hour display, frankly.

If you're a good HS WR watching that, no chance in hell you want to play here, knowing you're not even gonna get many targets in obvious catch-up, garbage-time situations.

 

[vapspwi]

3. changing the pace of the offense would lessen our chances of scoring. Better to stick to the plan and possibly run out of time rather than switch gears and confuse a team that's already struggling.

That's my view of it. The choice was "score slow and hope for some breaks (onside kick, turnover)" or "not score at all." Especially for the first TD - get that one however you can, and you've still got 3-4 minutes to try for a miracle. We did go to signaling from the sideline, but we were still too slow in the hurry-up (which you can attribute somewhat to Oliver's inexperience at QB, probably).

JRjr

 

[KrazieJacket]

Georgia Tech is going to continue to have academic standards that are higher than you would like so just go pick another team to cheer for.

Seems like GT football isn't going to be what either of us want.

 

[johncu]

your honest is appreciated and agreed with. It's just frustrating as hell to know that the game is over at that point in the 4th, watching us take forever to move the ball. It was a real amateur-hour display, frankly.

If you're a good HS WR watching that, no chance in hell you want to play here, knowing you're not even gonna get many targets in obvious catch-up, garbage-time situations.

Agree 100% with all of that. It's a travesty that we've allowed that perception to occur, and I blame it 100% on the coaching staff. Demaryius Thomas had 1154 receiving yards in 2009 - good for 13th nationally. Smelter probably would have broken 1000 as well if he'd been able to play a full season. Thomas went from a 3 star recruit to a 1st round draft pick Pro Bowler. Hard to argue that the offense did him any disservices there. The problem is that those guys are anomalies, and they shouldn't have to be.

A good QB and WR can have a field day in this offense due to 1 on 1 matchups every play, but we've been unable to recruit those guys other than a couple of notable exceptions with the in-betweens being mediocre at best. I guess the difference is that I don't see that as an indictment of the offensive scheme - I see it as an indictment of the staff, from assistant coaches all the way up to the administration that handcuffed them.

 

[xenoabe]

We really need to wean ourselves off the nutsack of the '07 class.

I can tell you that a lot of 2007 was luck. There were some weird things that happened that helped the stars align. Gailey wasn't all of a sudden a worldbeater at recruiting.