POLL: Who Do You Want?

Who Do You Want as HC Now?

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The Wasp said:
I'll be pulling for Key, but he is in an almost impossible situation. Let's see how it plays out, not in terms of w and L but improvement and competitiveness. As of now, Chadwell appears to be the man who can stabilize, build and operate at the top leadership level.
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Don't think it's an impossible situation at all. He's inheriting a roster which seems to have played well below its talent level, and he's up against a Coastal slate that is quite weak. Especially with a victory over Pitt, there's no reason we can't make a bowl and be in contention for the division.

I'm not saying it will be easy, or even expected. But he's got a fair shot to win this job.
 
andrew said:
Don't think it's an impossible situation at all. He's inheriting a roster which seems to have played well below its talent level, and he's up against a Coastal slate that is quite weak. Especially with a victory over Pitt, there's no reason we can't make a bowl and be in contention for the division.

I'm not saying it will be easy, or even expected. But he's got a fair shot to win this job.
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I'm worried both of those aspects will lead to attributing to Key things due to other reasons and making a bad decision on our part.
 
Just a month ago the only posts about Key were about how terrible the o line was and how Collins and Key should be fired and Weinke promoted. This month people are blaming the former head coach for the poor o line and Key is the savior of the program after one game. You all are a fickle bunch. I can't wait to see what next month brings.

The new Tech AD needs to set up a realistic top 5. If all of them turn us down and our backs are against the wall, then consider the hometown boy. He is already getting top dollar to coach a terrible line, hell, why not give him the reigns, am I right?
 
GTLiebs said:
I'm worried both of those aspects will lead to attributing to Key things due to other reasons and making a bad decision on our part.
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There is not a coach we can realistically hire who is a sure fire success. If Key turns out to be a great Head Coach, TStan may have unintentionally done us a huge favor.
 
BrentwoodJacket said:
There is not a coach we can realistically hire who is a sure fire success. If Key turns out to be a great Head Coach, TStan may have unintentionally done us a huge favor.
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And I'm not sure how much of any wins we get this season can be attributed directly to Key or that most average coaches couldnt do compared to what we were doing before. I think the odds of him being a great coach are very low compared to the odds of him being the kind of coach he has been for things he directly oversaw such as our OL or the time as OC at UCF.
 
GTLiebs said:
And I'm not sure how much of any wins we get this season can be attributed directly to Key or that most average coaches couldnt do compared to what we were doing before. I think the odds of him being a great coach are very low compared to the odds of him being the kind of coach he has been for things he directly oversaw such as our OL or the time as OC at UCF.
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I do not think most coaches could have changed the culture as quickly as he has.

We will see how the season plays out. He needs to win 5 of the 7 games not against UGA. That is not easy given what he inherited.

Three things in his favor:
First, he will be the least expensive option on the table.
Second, he understands Tech and the current roster better than any other candidate.
Third, he cares more about Tech than any other candidate.
 
BrentwoodJacket said:
I do not think most coaches could have changed the culture as quickly as he has.

We will see how the season plays out. He needs to win 5 of the 7 games not against UGA. That is not easy given what he inherited.

Three things in his favor:
First, he will be the least expensive option on the table.
Second, he understands Tech and the current roster better than any other candidate.
Third, he cares more about Tech than any other candidate.
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The first two can have value but the last honestly should be completely disregarded in any selection we make. You know who may of cared more about Tech than Key? Collins. It's a subjective measure founded in emotion that doesn't have an true correlation with results as a football coach.
 
I want to see Key succeed and be given the HC gig, it's a nice story. But I can't get out of my head the issues we've seen with the OLine under his tenure and his 1 year stint at UCF as interim that ended in a 1 win season. I need to see a lot to get my comfort level on board with considering him. I say this as someone who has made many posts over the last 3 years defending him, as the OLine was always going to be the hardest position to transition and coupled with 0 OL recruited during the transition year. But at the end of the day, while I think he's had a tougher road to pass than other coaches on the team, the results haven't been of the quality expected for HC'ing material.

That said, let's take it 1 week at a time and see what happens. If I had to make the decision today I'd go Chadwell, as a proven commodity, but even with him I'm not sure how much of it is riding on the coattails of a quality QB in that system this season. As others have said, I need to see this all play out a bit more this season before I pledge my fealty to someone with a claim on the throne.
 
GTLiebs said:
The first two can have value but the last honestly should be completely disregarded in any selection we make. You know who may of cared more about Tech than Key? Collins. It's a subjective measure founded in emotion that doesn't have an true correlation with results as a football coach.
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Collins only cares about himself. He convinced people he cared about Tech to sell his snake oil.

I am convinced Key cares about Tech. It is obvious when he talks about Tech. Key is not a used car salesman who lies constantly like Collins.

He may not be the solution. Lets see how the remaining games turn out.
 
Here’s my stance on Key. I was willing to let the Worst of all time (WOAT) stay under his current contract if he made a bowl. If Key can get there, I would give him a 4 year incentive contract with a moderate buyout for a bowl. If he wouldn’t go for that I would look elsewhere. If Key can make the acccg, I may be a little more generous. Winning an acccg would get a decent contract Without having to go the incentive route. Between Chadwell and Deion, I don’t care. My heart is with Deion because I was in Atlanta during his prime. Atlanta loves Deion. Chadwell has the potential to be a Walsh. His O is killing it at the lower levels. It may flame out in the P5 or it may be the latest craze.
 
MidnightJacket said:
I want to see Key succeed and be given the HC gig, it's a nice story. But I can't get out of my head the issues we've seen with the OLine under his tenure and his 1 year stint at UCF as interim that ended in a 1 win season. I need to see a lot to get my comfort level on board with considering him. I say this as someone who has made many posts over the last 3 years defending him, as the OLine was always going to be the hardest position to transition and coupled with 0 OL recruited during the transition year. But at the end of the day, while I think he's had a tougher road to pass than other coaches on the team, the results haven't been of the quality expected for HC'ing material.
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People keeping saying this and I understand the concern. But the guy is figuratively standing right in front of us (literally, if you count email). It should be easy enough for someone to come out and ask him what the hell the problem was with developing the OL. If he had done the same at Alabama as he was perceived to have done here, I doubt Saban would have tolerated it. He was very highly regarded amongst his peers before arrival. What the hell was different? Ask him.
 
Still not interested in Key. Trying to put number of wins we should have before considering retaining him as head coach is a trap. Why should we set the expectations low?
Pitt played terrible and we escaped with a win. There will be the same opportunity for UVA and VT.
Key isn’t starting with nothing. He just isn’t as bad as Collins.
 
KrazieJacket said:
Maybe you are the crazy one.
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If we get bowl eligible which was defined earlier as the metric for things going well, then that means Key went 5/8 against an exclusively P5 schedule (Aka 0.625 win percentage). He would have done that without an off-season to prep the team. With all due respect, that's better than O'Leary during his tenure and much better than his interim record. That's a win percentage that puts us in the competition for the coastal. Yeah, I think if Key gets us bowl eligible then we should be very excited for the future because we will not be playing small ball.

Do I think the above happens? No, I think we win 2 or 3 more which is good not great and still should be worthy of an interview, but not necessarily the job. I am rooting for it to happen, though.
 
GTLiebs said:
And I'm not sure how much of any wins we get this season can be attributed directly to Key or that most average coaches couldnt do compared to what we were doing before. I think the odds of him being a great coach are very low compared to the odds of him being the kind of coach he has been for things he directly oversaw such as our OL or the time as OC at UCF.
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I 100% believe any average P5 coach could come into tech and win 7+ a year with our current roster.
 
I like Key and I do want him to get a fair shot at it, but I definitely don't want to forgo a potential game changing hire just because we have "Tech Man" lined up. If he gets us to a bowl, it will create an interesting scenario for the new AD to navigate. Key will have plenty of booster support but the new AD may have a guy in mind. For the time being, I just want to see us win some games and enjoy the season.
 
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