Post NCsu game thread

GoGATech said:
I was curious about the going for 2 thing too. I realize it forced us to make the XP, but that is a high percentage play already. I don't know what the "book" says, but I think they should have kicked the XP. If they had failed the 2pt conversion it would be 27-23. A td+xp by us makes it 27-30 and the best they could have done at the end was try a FG to force OT instead of for the win.
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The chance of td+xp is lower than td.

If they make xp, it is 28-23. We score td. 28-29. We can go for 2 meaning they can only tie with a fg.

If the miss xp/2pt, 27-23. We score td, 27-29. A xp means they can only tie with fg.

With 2pt, 29-23. We score td. 29-29. With either xp/2pt they can still win with fg.

Honestly, I think they lined up to see how we aligned. They liked what they saw. They could have just taken a delay and moved back and made an xp.

Basically, I think they were testing to see if we had learned anything since fsu.
 
GoGATech said:
I was curious about the going for 2 thing too. I realize it forced us to make the XP, but that is a high percentage play already. I don't know what the "book" says, but I think they should have kicked the XP. If they had failed the 2pt conversion it would be 27-23. A td+xp by us makes it 27-30 and the best they could have done at the end was try a FG to force OT instead of for the win.
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Interesting take
 
MeatWrench said:
+1. Games like these last two really build that lifelong desire to come back and relive it. Key has already delivered a few of those in his short tenure.

The Clownins era was defined by the opposite of that. Humiliation and embarrassment. Who wants more of that?
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404!!!
 
swampsting said:
We did nothing with King in at QB last night.
King - 8 carries, 22 yards. Haynes - 13 carries, 36 yards.
King passing: 3-3, 7 yards. Barely two yards a completion.
And before Philo's scrambles on the last drive, we had 77 yards on 33 rushing attempts as a team.

As for the last point, when there are only two options to defend, it makes it a lot easier for the defense. Especially one as fast as the one we'll see next Friday. Even with the old offense, there was a threat we might go play action and go deep. There is no such threat now with King.
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The running game was not in sync in general. We are allowed to have bad games. It’s not as if the running game improved with Philo handing it off and “keeping them honest”. I guess I’m just saying: I don’t think King was the problem in the run game.
 
Regarding the Philo throw to the "correct" receiver argument....I'm just glad the kid decided to let it rip and not shit his pants in the moment by fumbling the ball or taking a sack. I think he and King are wired similarly. You can't make plays, if you're not willing to try.
 
In all the discussion about Philo throwing into tight windows, did anyone notice HK completely missing a WIDE OPEN Hawes with nothing but green grass between him and the EZ? I forget which qtr it was but as soon as he let the ball go (to somebody else for like a yard or something), he saw Hawes and lost his marbles he was so pissed he missed it.
 
00Burdell said:
In all the discussion about Philo throwing into tight windows, did anyone notice HK completely missing a WIDE OPEN Hawes with nothing but green grass between him and the EZ? I forget which qtr it was but as soon as he let the ball go (to somebody else for like a yard or something), he saw Hawes and lost his marbles he was so pissed he missed it.
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I was wondering if he missed seeing him at first or was angry because he wasn’t able to make the throw. Hard to tell.
 
Yellow Britches said:
I have no idea what the exact nature of King's shoulder injury is, but if he needs surgery, and if it's something that takes forever to heal (2 big ifs), would he still come back to Tech next year? Many questions to be answered after the bowl game.
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I heard that he will have surgery after the season. No idea if that is actually the case or not.
 
LaFlavor said:
I will say that, while the stands obviously had empty seats near the top, it sounded loud on the broadcast. Probably credit, again, goes to the student section. They've been showing up all season.
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It's not just the students who make the noise. The remaining faithful who are there every week, scream our heads off too. Even a Georgia fan from my church I brought with me was screaming.
 
Supersize that order mutt said:
It's not just the students who make the noise. The remaining faithful who are there every week, scream our heads off too. Even a Georgia fan from my church I brought with me was screaming.
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I'm glad the Georgia fan was able to get drive-thru window coverage from their shift manager.
 
00Burdell said:
In all the discussion about Philo throwing into tight windows, did anyone notice HK completely missing a WIDE OPEN Hawes with nothing but green grass between him and the EZ? I forget which qtr it was but as soon as he let the ball go (to somebody else for like a yard or something), he saw Hawes and lost his marbles he was so pissed he missed it.
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First quarter. Maybe the first drive? And that same drive both Singleton and Rutherford got hurt on back to back plays I believe.
 
I dozed off late in the 4th quarter with us being up 23-14. When I looked at my phone several hours later the headline indicated that Philo led GT back for the comeback win!

Our defense seemed to have NC St stifled and the game was under control. WHAT HAPPENED?!
 
LaFlavor said:
I will say that, while the stands obviously had empty seats near the top, it sounded loud on the broadcast. Probably credit, again, goes to the student section. They've been showing up all season.
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Miami and NC State were the first games in a while where everybody (in lower east, but it looked like in lower west as well) was standing up for the whole game. Games that matter and people care about are fun, it turns out.

JRjr
 
GoGATech said:
I was curious about the going for 2 thing too. I realize it forced us to make the XP, but that is a high percentage play already. I don't know what the "book" says, but I think they should have kicked the XP. If they had failed the 2pt conversion it would be 27-23. A td+xp by us makes it 27-30 and the best they could have done at the end was try a FG to force OT instead of for the win.
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The book says it's basically a wash (2.9 vs 3.1 win probability added - see 538's Analytical Breakdown) so it comes down to whether Doeren had more faith in his offense converting their 2PT or in his defense stopping our attempt. See the good breakdown from @WracerX on this.
 
bonafidejacket said:
The book says it's basically a wash (2.9 vs 3.1 win probability added - see 538's Analytical Breakdown) so it comes down to whether Doeren had more faith in his offense converting their 2PT or in his defense stopping our attempt. See the good breakdown from @WracerX on this.
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Doeren is a good coach. He saw that we were unprepared against fsu. Why not at least line up and see what you get? His kicker barely missed from 58 with the wind.

Can’t find the replay, but I don’t think we touched the qb.
 
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