post practice presser

Coach looks so defeated in this video. I think it has sunk in that we are not a very good football team. I don't think he will come out and say it, but we aren't. Worst QB play since Godsey left
 
GEETEELEE said:
So passing % is the only scale used for QB play?
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Remember also, we were completing a terrific percentage of passes earlier in the season. If this has sunk to 38%, the regression is gigantic. I don't understand why another player does not get a chance to see what he can do when the QB play is so abysmal. It's not like he isn't getting decent protection, at least by GT standards. I know the receiving options are mediocre, but still. TM's a good wildcat QB, but I don't trust him to put the ball in the air. He's skeered, and he's lost confidence in himself, internally.

Look back at CPJ over the years - we suck when we cannot throw the football. I'm surprised TM is still walking around given that he's scared to pitch it, and scared to throw it. Hell - if you look at the damn thing, we aren't even running any triple option any more. Isn't that the base play of the ****ing offense? Every give is a designed give. There is no reading going on. This isn't CPJ football. It isn't even option football. We're trying to play power without power. The first series of each damn game is loaded with plays that we used to use to counter questions the defense asks of us. B-gap trap plays. Double option off a counter swivel. 30 yard downfield chucks. Now counters are the only thing we can run. It shocks me that we are still getting receivers running wide damn open despite this, but it doesn't matter because we can't hit them frequently enough to make a difference.

I don't put all the blame on CPJ, except to the extent that his recruiting efforts result in the talent we have on campus. CPJ puts on a pretty nice dinner considering he shops at Aldi. The institute is the larger limiting factor - I agree. Except for the Duke game, the season hasn't really been SO bad - we were far closer to having a nice record than anyone will ever remember. But we know we can be better than this. We have been better than this. We have to get back to playing the true CPJ brand of football, and he has somehow lost touch with it this year.
 
texstinger said:
Seems that, for several years now, the biggest problem we always have is "missed assignments".

So is it bad coaching?
Is it players not smart enough "football wise"?
Is it a system too complicated?
All if the above?
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No, it's called football. Their 11 are trying to execute better than our 11.

Every coach, every game can point to that as a problem.
 
EffinDane said:
I know you're joking but people say this in earnest. And those people are ööööing morons.
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So here's the thing. I like CPJ. I like his offense. And I like his demeanor. But the offensive line being a complete shit show for a decade is entirely his buddy Sewak's fault. And not firing him is his fault. There's no excuse for that. And saying "that's a reflection on me and our coaches" every ööööing year doesn't make the problem go away.
 
Akinji07 said:
So here's the thing. I like CPJ. I like his offense. And I like his demeanor. But the offensive line being a complete öööö show for a decade is entirely his buddy Sewak's fault. And not firing him is his fault. There's no excuse for that. And saying "that's a reflection on me and our coaches" every ööööing year doesn't make the problem go away.
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No argument here. Don't think you'll find any Tech fan that will argue.

We need higher coaching salaries if we want better coaches. With that said, PJ needs to cut parts that aren't working... whether he wants to or not.

Bobknski should have taken care of the Sewak problem. He didnt. Stansbury is meeting PJ's challenge of providing more resources. I'm interested to see if he's willing to push back on PJ where it counts.

Even top executives need coaching. They probably need it more than anyone else.
 
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txsting said:
Remember also, we were completing a terrific percentage of passes earlier in the season. If this has sunk to 38%, the regression is gigantic. I don't understand why another player does not get a chance to see what he can do when the QB play is so abysmal. It's not like he isn't getting decent protection, at least by GT standards. I know the receiving options are mediocre, but still. TM's a good wildcat QB, but I don't trust him to put the ball in the air. He's skeered, and he's lost confidence in himself, internally.

Look back at CPJ over the years - we suck when we cannot throw the football. I'm surprised TM is still walking around given that he's scared to pitch it, and scared to throw it. Hell - if you look at the damn thing, we aren't even running any triple option any more. Isn't that the base play of the ****ing offense? Every give is a designed give. There is no reading going on. This isn't CPJ football. It isn't even option football. We're trying to play power without power. The first series of each damn game is loaded with plays that we used to use to counter questions the defense asks of us. B-gap trap plays. Double option off a counter swivel. 30 yard downfield chucks. Now counters are the only thing we can run. It shocks me that we are still getting receivers running wide damn open despite this, but it doesn't matter because we can't hit them frequently enough to make a difference.

I don't put all the blame on CPJ, except to the extent that his recruiting efforts result in the talent we have on campus. CPJ puts on a pretty nice dinner considering he shops at Aldi. The institute is the larger limiting factor - I agree. Except for the Duke game, the season hasn't really been SO bad - we were far closer to having a nice record than anyone will ever remember. But we know we can be better than this. We have been better than this. We have to get back to playing the true CPJ brand of football, and he has somehow lost touch with it this year.
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Good analysis of the QB problems. Jeune/Stewart is no Smelter/Waller combo but they are good enough to provide a real threat in the passing game. I have to wonder if Jordan would be playing if healthy. But, his passes looked pretty horrendous too, in a small sample size. Also remember that we lost a pretty potent combo in the running game, with Mills/Marshall. Benson has been good, but Howard hasn't managed to do much. Add on top of all this that we can't get decent back to back games from the OL or defense and ST is comical. Just a flawed team in a variety of ways, but we've managed to be in most games up til the end, mostly because of Taquon's running, which is why he is starting.
 
We've had multiple guys win ACC OLineman of the Week honors this season, which seems nontrivial given the talent/depth issues. I'd like to think some of that is due to coaching because it definitely wasn't due to sheer talent disparity in our favor
 
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smokey_wasp said:
Good analysis of the QB problems. Jeune/Stewart is no Smelter/Waller combo but they are good enough to provide a real threat in the passing game. I have to wonder if Jordan would be playing if healthy. But, his passes looked pretty horrendous too, in a small sample size. Also remember that we lost a pretty potent combo in the running game, with Mills/Marshall. Benson has been good, but Howard hasn't managed to do much. Add on top of all this that we can't get decent back to back games from the OL or defense and ST is comical. Just a flawed team in a variety of ways, but we've managed to be in most games up til the end, mostly because of Taquon's running, which is why he is starting.
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Howard hasn't done much because he never gets any touches. He averages 7.6 yds a carry when he does get touches.
 
The regression in TQ's passing game illustrated in game logs:

vs. TN: 5 of 9 (L)
JSU: 5 of 7 (W)
Pitt: 4 of 7 (W)
UNC: 5 of 10 (W)
Miami: 3 of 7 (L)
Wake: 5 of 11 (W)
Clemson: 3 of 13 (L)
UVA: 6 of 22 (L)
VT: 2 of 8 (W) both completions long TD's
Duke: 3 of 13 (L)

Obviously, some of this is from falling behind and having to try low percentage throws, but he's 14 out of 56 starting with the Clemson game. Whew.
 
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smokey_wasp said:
The regression in TQ's passing game illustrated in game logs:

vs. TN: 5 of 9 (L)
JSU: 5 of 7 (W)
Pitt: 4 of 7 (W)
UNC: 5 of 10 (W)
Miami: 3 of 7 (L)
Wake: 5 of 11 (W)
Clemson: 3 of 13 (L)
UVA: 6 of 22 (L)
VT: 2 of 8 (W) both completions long TD's
Duke: 3 of 13 (L)
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Actually, he completed an extra pass in the VT game, just to wrong team.
 
With our style and the fact that most of our passes are downfield shots, a 50% completion rate is a recipe for success. We haven't been at 50% or above since our 4th game based on the statistics presented.

Also of note, Jeune is gone after this season. No real contributors in the passing game this season after him. Hopefully someone can turn it up when the opportunity presents itself next season.
 
ElCidBUZZingFAN said:
Your QB can't be a ball hog in this offense.
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Yeah, this reminds me of the offense under Tevin where there were hardly any AB touches. This really changes our offense because our AB's usually average the highest ypc in the backfield, with some years they average almost 10 ypc.
 
Just because I'm getting myself lost on the College Football Reference website:

Completion percentages for CPJ's QB's

Nesbitt : 42.9 %. I honestly didn't remember it being that low, but he was such a wrecking ball and the rest of the offense was working so well, it didn't matter.

Washington: 50.7 % : Highest career completion percentage for a CPJ QB, including a 56 % his senior year. We threw the ball less with him than with Vad & JT. Passing attempts have trended upward in general.

Vad: 46.2 %

Justin Thomas: 48.7 % but badly skewed by 2015 (41%). He was over 50 percent the rest of the time.
 
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