QB Battle

Which QB will take the first snap?

  • James Graham

    Votes: 74 52.9%
  • Jordan Yates

    Votes: 32 22.9%
  • Jeff Sims

    Votes: 20 14.3%
  • Tucker Gleason

    Votes: 14 10.0%

  • Total voters
    140
  • Poll closed .

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Which of the quarterbacks do you think will emerge to take the most snaps this season? The only thing I feel confident in is that the first snap will be taken by either Yates or Graham, being the veterans. After that, I have no clue. I'm hoping some of those closer to what's happening in practice can talk about what they are seeing or hearing.
 
From what I’ve heard, the staff likes Sims and Gleason more than the returnees.

Gleason = best pure fit for the offense; understands system and how to get the ball to the right place quickly. Can run the full playbook

Sims = too athletic not to play. He’s a difference maker with unbelievably high ceiling

Yates = a guy that seems to make the most positive plays happen. Size and speed limits him and what the staff can do when he is in. Lowest ceiling

Graham = good athlete, most experience, but isn’t blowing anyone away. That said, he didn’t impress in camp last year, but was ultimately the best option on game day
 
Graham is going to start the season, but I'm not sure if he'll keep his job the whole season. Sims is a heck of an athlete but I think he might fall victim to some of the same accuracy issues as Graham(of course, total speculation given he hasn't taken a college snap yet). I wouldn't be surprised to see Yates take over the job and be the starter, he seems like he could be a complete QB. Gleason isn't starting for a while, that much I'm sure. He's a Fr., and he lost the benefit of an in person spring and summer, so there's little to no chance he is our starter. Sims has the same disadvantage, but he has more athleticism than Gleason, which makes me think he'll find some way onto the field.
 
Not sure Graham's camp last year counts, but he needs to do more in this camp to keep the job.

I hope we get a clear starter, hopefully by FSU but IIWII, and I hope we get several capable backups. Further, I hope that the non-starters of Sims/Gleason/Yates get snaps in relatively meaningful situations for their development. Ideally, Sims and/or Gleason play in four games to develop their skills but retain their redshirts, but whoever wins the starter's job plays all the games and is the clear team leader without controversy.

I typically don't do comps, but my comps are Sims = Shawn Jones, Gleason = Goose Godsey but more athletic and better prepared walking onto campus, and Yates = Tom Brady @ Michigan but short. They always wanted to replace Brady but all he did was win. The Graham comp is JoeHam, but he needs to find his accuracy.
 
Sims gets a free year without burning his redshirt thanks to the NCAA. That gives him a better chance than during a normal year to take over. I would hazard a guess that we start with a mini-revolving door for a series here and there, and then by midseason it's Sims.
 
I haven’t had less of an inclination on who will be GT’s starting quarterback than I have leading up to this particular season.

From the extremely limited amount of film I’ve seen, Sims looks like a stud and Yates looks like a playmaker. Gleason seems to be a great choice if our OL wasn’t so godawful. And Graham got a bad shake last season because he was getting face-planted on 75% of all throwing plays.

So yeah...I’ve got no idea.
 
The Athletic reported this from Coach Patenaude about that first game:
So what does Patenaude need at quarterback to help get the offense rolling heading into the season opener at Florida State?

“That’s a great question. I think everybody who’s a Jacket fan is asking that question,” he said. “Can you get us in the right play? Can you check us the right way? Are you athletic enough to run it in the run game? Do you know where you’re going in the passing game? That’s all critical before the ball’s being snapped. Can you protect yourself? Can you change protections? So that’s one piece of it. And then when the ball is snapped, can you make a great decision on where to go with the ball, No. 1? Do you throw on target? And do you throw on target with velocity? Those are three things just from a throwing standpoint once the ball is snapped. So it’s gotta be a combination of all those type of things, and the guys have done a really good job.

“We have guys that can really play. It’s a little bit of a different situation. In a perfect scenario, we would have a guy, and he would get 75 percent of the reps, and we would be headed towards Tallahassee with one guy, but that’s not the case. It will be a continual work in progress. The plan is to not to have to play two, three or four guys. We’d love to be able to settle on one guy and have him have a tremendous year, but we’re going to give all those guys ample opportunity to figure it out.”
 
Sims gets a free year without burning his redshirt thanks to the NCAA. That gives him a better chance than during a normal year to take over. I would hazard a guess that we start with a mini-revolving door for a series here and there, and then by midseason it's Sims.
I feel sort of the same here. A lot of folks are going to be pissed off early on if we're trying all the QB's again, but like you say, we basically have a free year of eligibility with all of them. Also, since nobody is blowing the competition away in camp, you have to see who shines in a live game situation, and the only way to find that out is for them all to play.
 
The poll is one question and you ask another. I’d have to put money on Graham taking the first snap barring injury.
 
Yates should probably start, but the coaches will go with Graham because the game is on the road and he has experience. We waste 2-3 offensive series and go down at least 10 points before bringing in Yates to finish the game. Final result doesn’t matter. 0–1

UCF we let Yates start but Geoffrey and Pnope’s game plan isto bring in Graham for the second quarter regardless of Yates is doing and decide on a guy at half. Yates finishes the game. 0-2.

Cuse. Yates starts and Coaches plan for him to play the whole game, maybe bring in graham for certain packages. coaches actually keep Yates on short leash and throw in graham for a few series after Yates makes one mistake. More qb flip flopping.0-3

Lville. Yates plays 75-80 percent of the snaps and plays well. We waste 2-3 drives with graham bc ATL philosophy. Close loss. 0-4.

Clemmons. Yates starts and plays until 3rd quarter. Losing by 28+ at this point and Gleason is brought into finish the game. 0-5.

Remainder of the season Yates starts and Graham is emergency backup if the games are close. The games are not close. We bring in both freshman for 1-2 drives in a few of the remaining games.
 
Yates should probably start, but the coaches will go with Graham because the game is on the road and he has experience. We waste 2-3 offensive series and go down at least 10 points before bringing in Yates to finish the game. Final result doesn’t matter. 0–1

UCF we let Yates start but Geoffrey and Pnope’s game plan isto bring in Graham for the second quarter regardless of Yates is doing and decide on a guy at half. Yates finishes the game. 0-2.

Cuse. Yates starts and Coaches plan for him to play the whole game, maybe bring in graham for certain packages. coaches actually keep Yates on short leash and throw in graham for a few series after Yates makes one mistake. More qb flip flopping.0-3

Lville. Yates plays 75-80 percent of the snaps and plays well. We waste 2-3 drives with graham bc ATL philosophy. Close loss. 0-4.

Clemmons. Yates starts and plays until 3rd quarter. Losing by 28+ at this point and Gleason is brought into finish the game. 0-5.

Remainder of the season Yates starts and Graham is emergency backup if the games are close. The games are not close. We bring in both freshman for 1-2 drives in a few of the remaining games.

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Yates should probably start, but the coaches will go with Graham because the game is on the road and he has experience. We waste 2-3 offensive series and go down at least 10 points before bringing in Yates to finish the game. Final result doesn’t matter. 0–1

UCF we let Yates start but Geoffrey and Pnope’s game plan isto bring in Graham for the second quarter regardless of Yates is doing and decide on a guy at half. Yates finishes the game. 0-2.

Cuse. Yates starts and Coaches plan for him to play the whole game, maybe bring in graham for certain packages. coaches actually keep Yates on short leash and throw in graham for a few series after Yates makes one mistake. More qb flip flopping.0-3

Lville. Yates plays 75-80 percent of the snaps and plays well. We waste 2-3 drives with graham bc ATL philosophy. Close loss. 0-4.

Clemmons. Yates starts and plays until 3rd quarter. Losing by 28+ at this point and Gleason is brought into finish the game. 0-5.

Remainder of the season Yates starts and Graham is emergency backup if the games are close. The games are not close. We bring in both freshman for 1-2 drives in a few of the remaining games.
Dang man the rona really getting you down huh?
 
Yates should probably start, but the coaches will go with Graham because the game is on the road and he has experience. We waste 2-3 offensive series and go down at least 10 points before bringing in Yates to finish the game. Final result doesn’t matter. 0–1

UCF we let Yates start but Geoffrey and Pnope’s game plan isto bring in Graham for the second quarter regardless of Yates is doing and decide on a guy at half. Yates finishes the game. 0-2.

Cuse. Yates starts and Coaches plan for him to play the whole game, maybe bring in graham for certain packages. coaches actually keep Yates on short leash and throw in graham for a few series after Yates makes one mistake. More qb flip flopping.0-3

Lville. Yates plays 75-80 percent of the snaps and plays well. We waste 2-3 drives with graham bc ATL philosophy. Close loss. 0-4.

Clemmons. Yates starts and plays until 3rd quarter. Losing by 28+ at this point and Gleason is brought into finish the game. 0-5.

Remainder of the season Yates starts and Graham is emergency backup if the games are close. The games are not close. We bring in both freshman for 1-2 drives in a few of the remaining games.
Yeah right. No way we lose to Clemmons.
 
Graham is going to start the season, but I'm not sure if he'll keep his job the whole season. Sims is a heck of an athlete but I think he might fall victim to some of the same accuracy issues as Graham(of course, total speculation given he hasn't taken a college snap yet). I wouldn't be surprised to see Yates take over the job and be the starter, he seems like he could be a complete QB. Gleason isn't starting for a while, that much I'm sure. He's a Fr., and he lost the benefit of an in person spring and summer, so there's little to no chance he is our starter. Sims has the same disadvantage, but he has more athleticism than Gleason, which makes me think he'll find some way onto the field.
You're right, that is total speculation. Sims is throwing dimes from what I've heard. Gleason is more game ready at this point, though, because he's got a better feel on pre-snap reads and checks from what I've heard. I think it's a misconception that Gleason isn't athletic, he's probably the better running QB of the two, with Sims having the better arm.
 
You're right, that is total speculation. Sims is throwing dimes from what I've heard. Gleason is more game ready at this point, though, because he's got a better feel on pre-snap reads and checks from what I've heard. I think it's a misconception that Gleason isn't athletic, he's probably the better running QB of the two, with Sims having the better arm.
I would be thrilled if either of these guys takes the starting job. From everything I’ve seen and read, JG has made strides in the offseason. If one of these guys (or Yates) passes him on the depth chart, that will mean we are in a much better position at QB than we were LY.
 
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I feel sort of the same here. A lot of folks are going to be pissed off early on if we're trying all the QB's again, but like you say, we basically have a free year of eligibility with all of them. Also, since nobody is blowing the competition away in camp, you have to see who shines in a live game situation, and the only way to find that out is for them all to play.

To be clear - I think Graham will be given the opportunity to keep the job in live game action. But the young guys will get sprinkled in for a few series, and eventually I think Sims will make enough waves to get the nod.
 
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