Sims = Bilbo

OmnipoTech said:
That's fine. I do check in on how some of our guys that transferred out are doing from time to time.

Can you honestly sit here and say you've been impressed with anything Sims has done more than maybe once? I'm sure there were teams trying to talk to him in the offseason about transferring, but they were likely all based on his perceived talent level and high ceiling, and not based on anything he's actually done here. Sims looks like he should be a stud, so when he underperforms the assumption seems to be Tech is holding him back. Yates doesn't look like a stud, so the assumption is well he just isn't that good, even though he was working with the same limitations Sims had of having a dogshit OL and terrible coaching.
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Yes. He had an impressive game Monday. He had completed ~75% of his passes into the third, you miserable bitch.
 
GoGATech said:
For starters, using the stats comparison isn't very reliable anyway because they were low for both guys anyway playing a stout defense, but since you are using it we'll dive in. Here are the stat lines:

Pass​
%​
Yds/Avg​
TD/INT​
Efficiency Rtg​
QBR​
Rush​
Yds​
Avg​
Yates 2021
20/34​
58.8​
203/6.0​
0/1​
103.1​
65.1​
15​
21​
1.4​
Sims 2022
23/36​
63.9​
164/4.6​
1/1​
105.8​
62.8​
13​
41​
3.2​

So first off, Sims had more rushing yards on fewer carries for a higher average so you were wrong about that. Yates had 39 more passing yards with a slightly better QBR but Sims had a higher completion rate with a better efficiency rating. There was one play in the 2021 game also where Yates threw a 2 yard pass to Kyric McGowan that was sort of a pick play and he broke off a 32 yard run after that so there is your main difference in passing yardage right there on one play that was mostly done by the receiver. Sims had 3 passes dropped that hit guys in the hands Monday night. Sure Yates got into the redzone more but Sims delivered more. You can chalk any or all of that up to coaching or players but the simple fact is Jeff accounted for 6 points of offense against Clemson and Yates accounted for zero. If you want to count the FG/XPs then Sims put up 10 on them (could've been 13 because had us in FG range but missed), and Yates put up 6. It's like you didn't even watch either game and are just going by stats you looked up. And once again, two different seasons is still an apples to oranges comparison. Just because some of his stats were better last year than Sims were this year doesn't say anything. Trenton Simpson also was ejected early in last years game for targeting, that would've made a big difference also.
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Fair enough on the rushing, I misremembered that. But if you are going to try to pick off one of Yates' plays to dismiss his performance, I can just as easily pick off Sims' pass TD and suddenly his stats look worse too and suddenly he didn't deliver öööö. See how dumb that is? Giving Sims credit for a 45 yard field goal is hilarious and saying it could have been more because we were in range for a 50 yard kick is hilarious, with Yates we were basically kicking 3 point XPs. Yates also had to contend with weather delays throwing off any rhythym and classic Collin's clock management screwing up the first redzone attempt. Xavier Thomas who would have been one of Clemson's starting DE was out for the entirety of this year's game. Clemson also had better coaches last year and we had worse coaches. We can do this öööö all day.
 
OmnipoTech said:
Fair enough on the rushing, I misremembered that. But if you are going to try to pick off one of Yates' plays to dismiss his performance, I can just as easily pick off Sims' pass TD and suddenly his stats look worse too and suddenly he didn't deliver öööö. See how dumb that is? Giving Sims credit for a 45 yard field goal is hilarious and saying it could have been more because we were in range for a 50 yard kick is hilarious, with Yates we were basically kicking 3 point XPs. Yates also had to contend with weather delays throwing off any rhythym and classic Collin's clock management screwing up the first redzone attempt. Xavier Thomas who would have been one of Clemson's starting DE was out for the entirety of this year's game. Clemson also had better coaches last year and we had worse coaches. We can do this öööö all day.
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LOL I'm not dismissing his performance, I'm saying the receiver did all the work on that play. You are more than welcome to go back and take a look. And taking off stats for a 2 yard pass that Yates completed and the receiver got the other 32, and taking off a 14 yard TD pass by Sims are nowhere near the same thing. As a matter of fact, Yates had pretty much the exact same throw to a corner route for McGowan last year and overthrew him badly out of bounds. The fact is what Jeff did Monday wasn't enough just like what Yates did wasn't enough. Neither is really acceptable but you started this whole nonsense saying you'd rather have Yates than Sims all because of that one game last year and that is beyond stupid. Once again you cannot compare last year to this year it doesn't matter about the coaches, the players, the atmosphere anything. It's still two different games. I would bet anything that Yates would have performed worse than Jeff did on Monday night, and that Jeff would have done better than Yates did last year. You are the only person on the planet that thinks otherwise. As far as giving anybody credit for the FGs, I didn't at first. Like I said Sims had 6 points offense Yates had 0. But if you want to count the FGs we had when Yates was in you have to count Jeff's too because he got us there. The kicker didn't kick it from our own 25.
 
OmnipoTech said:
Fair enough on the rushing, I misremembered that. But if you are going to try to pick off one of Yates' plays to dismiss his performance, I can just as easily pick off Sims' pass TD and suddenly his stats look worse too and suddenly he didn't deliver öööö. See how dumb that is? Giving Sims credit for a 45 yard field goal is hilarious and saying it could have been more because we were in range for a 50 yard kick is hilarious, with Yates we were basically kicking 3 point XPs. Yates also had to contend with weather delays throwing off any rhythym and classic Collin's clock management screwing up the first redzone attempt. Xavier Thomas who would have been one of Clemson's starting DE was out for the entirety of this year's game. Clemson also had better coaches last year and we had worse coaches. We can do this öööö all day.
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Dude, chill already. We get it. You love Yates.
 
recktification said:
If you know...you know. Physical beast. Just doesn't have the football IQ to play at this level.

The bad news? He was the brightest hope on the field for us last night.

If we don't get rid of Collins and his loser mentality, his inability to see in Sim's third year that he can't do this job, and his never ending string of horrible in-game decisions, our once proud program is headed the way of the Do-Do bird.
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I am just now reviewing this thread. The subject line was so retarded, I figured it would not last long but here it is Friday and its still going.

I have but 2 observations:
1. GoGaTech spends too much time arguing with dumbasses;
2. @recktification is a dumbass
 
00Burdell said:
I am just now reviewing this thread. The subject line was so retarded, I figured it would not last long but here it is Friday and its still going.

I have but 2 observations:
1. GoGaTech spends too much time arguing with dumbasses;
2. @recktification is a dumbass
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I really need to learn when to stop. They always try to bring me down to their level of ignorance to beat me with experience.
 
Sims isn’t bad tho. We have terrible play calling and a terrible o line. Sure he makes some mistakes, but that’s true for 99.9999999% of QBs that ever played.
 
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