Thank you Stingtalk, go to hell BBuzzoff

I-Wrecken said:
Oh come on - HCs are prime targets for bashing, they make more money than you and I together and deserve to be bashed when they suck.

That's the problem with some Tech fans - the HC is a PAID professional. He was hired to do a job and when he does he gets raises and accolades and when he doesn't he gets bashed.

Don't you think it's time to grow up in this regard????
Just because he 'happens' to be the Tech HC means absolutely nothing - other than he's the coach of the team we support, he's fair game when he stinks up the place.

By the way, I mentioned the very large number of fans who now go to BuzzOFF as a reminder that they're are many, many fans who have differing opinions doesn't make one better than the other as you believe it does.
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For all this typing, all that I really hear is "I'm jealous I don't make as much money as he did, so I'm going to try my best to bitch as loudly as I can when he doesn't meet my standards."

Are you saying I need to "grow up" and start bashing the head coach of the Institute I love? Wow.
 
gnats67 said:
There's just something fundamentally ****ty about kicking a good man when he's down. I gave CCG the full 5 years and then his ass was on notice. Guess what? He ain't here no more. But it's not like I disrespect the man or feel like I need to say ugly things about him behind his back on a internet msg board.

I look forward to the day when your kind will own up to the fact that you've been wrong and have been a negative part of the process for these past several years. Probably don't have the character, do you?

Pathetic.
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I stood up to Rad and told him how I felt about Gailey. He has my full name, address, and tele no. I even told Brainelss how I felt, course it did no good. It took a real man like Rad to step up and say enough is enough.

Unlike some people who keep harping on Gaileys character prove his character. Unlike some I made my feelings known about Gailey on this board and others, I did not say I'll let my thoughts be known after the seasons over, then hedged their comments ie saying nothing. People like Taz have character they said it from the get go. Of course Taz was not keeping his thoughts to him self because he wanted to be in the GA Sports HOF.

Do you know what happened the morn Gailey was terminated? I do and the things that happened did not show me any character. They showed me a man filled with hate, and disgust. His public comments were almost as bad. A paraphrase of one of his comments was getting fired after making the playoffs and not having a losing season. Why did he not say I never made the grade that I set for myself? He at best was mediocre and set many negative records at Tech, yet no one seems willing to speak of those. It's always about his great character. The people on BO were blasted for their thoughts yet THEY WERE RIGHT! NOW BLAST AWAY!
 
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The Jacket said:
There are more than enough differing opinions on this board about all topics, which is why the board is gaining in popularity and traffic. What we don't embrace is mindless complaining and idiots who call for the head of a coach before he's ever coached a down. (Re: BeeWare and BeeBad and co. when Chan's tenure began.)

It's one of BBuzzoff's favorite past times to declare themselves a beacon for free speech and open debate, when all of that is actually available over here and you don't have to worry about a dumbass administrator deleting your posts simply because they don't side with you.
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Back in the earlier days of Buzzoff, it was a regular thing for Beebad do delete my threads because he didn't agree with them, or they brought too much logic to his or his cronies otherwise illogical arguments.

I was banned long ago, got let back in, then banned again. All because I destroyed almost all the comments on there with logical, and valid arguments.
 
Given the over inflated salaries given to college head coaches I agree that they should not be surprised at criticism and being held accountable for the promises they were willing to make at hiring. They all come in talking about winning, bowls, and championships. If they were paid 150K or less per year, I would argue they should not be fired as long as they work hard, lead their players with class, and are good teachers of the game. But, at 1.5 million a year they are paid a premium for winning. They celebrate their inflated salaries at hiring or when given a raise after a winning season. It is hypocritical of their profession to feign indignance when they are held accountable for delivering results.

To me, the issue is that an overly critical fan base may actually hinder their school's success. A revolving coaching carousel is not as likely to produce long term positive results as a more stable coaching situation. The impatience of a fan base just makes the situation worse. Recruiting can be harmed. And, frankly, college football ought to be fun, first for students, then for alumni and other fans. The incessant criticism of coaches and debates within the fan base makes the sport less enjoyable.

I love to debate the decisions a coach makes - I can still get animated over Bill Curry's ill fated run to the outside on fourth down that led to a loss at Wake Forest and cost a second straight bowl game in November of '86. After losses I am always willing to critique a Tech Coach, usually with a lot of passion for the first hew hours after the loss. But, ultimately I think a fan base that shows patience with coaches and with each other will lead in the long run to a healthier football program. That is why I will support Paul Johnson because he is the head coach at GT, and why I have supported our coaches that preceeded him, Gailey included.
 
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oldfoggy said:
Do you know what happened the morn Gailey was terminated? I do and the things that happened did not show me any character. They showed me a man filled with hate, and disgust. His public comments were almost as bad. A paraphrase of one of his comments was getting fired after making the playoffs and not having a losing season. Why did he not say I never made the grade that I set for myself? He at best was mediocre and set many negative records at Tech, yet no one seems willing to speak of those. It's always about his great character. The people on BO were blasted for their thoughts yet THEY WERE RIGHT! NOW BLAST AWAY!
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Geeze, you need to grow up old man. Gailey inspite of getting fired, showed up at the GT lunch bunch and thanked everyone for their support over the years. That takes balls. There is not a coach in America who would have kept that committed appointment. Gailey is an average coach but a very good man. If you want to throw his character under the bus, you're pathetic. Why don't we compare your character to his? His character is what attracted the great recruits he had last year and this year to GT.

I don't know a person who has met Gailey in person who would ever call his character into question.
 
77GTFan said:
Given the over inflated salaries given to college head coaches I agree that they should not be surprised at criticism and being held accountable for the promises they were willing to make at hiring. They all come in talking about winning, bowls, and championships. If they were paid 150K or less per year, I would argue they should not be fired as long as they work hard, lead their players with class, and are good teachers of the game. But, at 1.5 million a year they are paid a premium for winning. They celebrate their inflated salaries at hiring or when given a raise after a winning season. It is hypocritical of their profession to feign indignance when they are held accountable for delivering results.

To me, the issue is that an overly critical fan base may actually hinder their school's success. A revolving coaching carousel is not as likely to produce long term positive results as a more stable coaching situation. The impatience of a fan base just makes the situation worse. Recruiting can be harmed. And, frankly, college football ought to be fun, first for students, then for alumni and other fans. The incessant criticism of coaches and debates within the fan base makes the sport less enjoyable.

I love to debate the decisions a coach makes - I can still get animated over Bill Curry's ill fated run to the outside on fourth down that led to a loss at Wake Forest and cost a second straight bowl game in November of '86. After losses I am always willing to critique a Tech Coach, usually with a lot of passion for the first hew hours after the loss. But, ultimately I think a fan base that show patience with coaches with each other will lead in the long run to a healthier football program. That is why I will support Paul Johnson because he is the head coach at GT, and why I have supported our coaches that preceeded him, Gailey included.
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QFT

This is the best post I've read on this forum in a year. I hope some people on this board and others take this wisdom to heart. This is the truth, plain and simple. Had we fired Gailey in year 1, 2 or 3, no doubt we may be worse off right now than we are.

All the people who say "Gailey crippled our program" are morons. Gailey kept are program sustainabley above average. Given he hasn't done much more than that. He's left a solid and consistent mark to improve upon for the next coach.
 
oldfoggy said:
The people on BO were blasted for their thoughts yet THEY WERE RIGHT! NOW BLAST AWAY!
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I used to read Buzzoff occasionally when someone would post a message talking about what they were saying "over there". It's probably been close to a year since I read it so I don't know the real tenor of the board right now (although I have a relative that tells me some stuff going on there). I have tried on occasion to get on but always get the "must logon" message.

I'll say this about the last few times I was there. Virtually everyone there was bashing Gailey and I noticed two things. One, if somebody told a lie about Gailey or exagerrated something about him, it soon became the truth for that board because of the frenzy that was going on. Two, in the space of about a day and a half there were at least several different posters who said all of the following in different words.
1. Gailey and his staff can't recruit players with
talent.
2. Gailey and his staff can't "coach the players up."
3. Gailey and his staff should have beaten ND & ugag
this year (06) when they had a chance since we
had more talent.

It's tough to follow that kind of logic and even if I posted there I'm not sure that I would have the energy to argue it. It just seemed that many were fanatical and not wanting to discuss and I feel that there had to be one or two who claimed to be Tech fans but didn't appear to want Tech to succeed.
 
Bawahahahahah!

BO has pulled it's shingle in.... only registered users are allowed to view the forums once again...just like after a GT victory.

pathos + ignorance = BO.
 
beej67 said:
Anyone defending Buzzoff can start with justifying how their board moderators use your personal information to stalk you on the internet.
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I know nothing of the STALKING that has been alluded to. If indeed someone anyone stalked you or anyone I think that's pathetic.

As far as Gailey goes I met the man several time and the best way I could describe him he had no personality. That was also told to me by his players as well. I have talked with parents of players (GOL recruits) and all of them had a great dislike for the man. Was he a good man with character I don't know and I doubt anyone who posts here really knows. From his actions I would personally call into question his character. But like I said who knows.

What amazes me about this board are those who posted on BO the like of BOR, GTL etc now bash BB and others who professed their dislike for Gailey. But one thing is correct he's gone, he did not get the job done and that's that.
 
oldfoggy said:
Do you know what happened the morn Gailey was terminated? I do and the things that happened did not show me any character. They showed me a man filled with hate, and disgust.
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As far as Gailey goes I met the man several time and the best way I could describe him he had no personality......Was he a good man with character I don't know and I doubt anyone who posts here really knows. From his actions I would personally call into question his character. But like I said who knows.
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Maybe you could elaborate on these blanket statements.
 
It's one thing not to like Gailey's results, and it's another thing not to like the man. I always thought he seemed like a stand up guy, and most comments I heard about him only backed that up. I was sad to see him get fired in the way he did, but it was as good a time for change as any. I wish him all the success as possible in his future, as long as it doesn't involve beating Tech.

But hey, some people don't like pie. Old Foggy apparently doesn't like Chan. Same with most people on BO. I personally don't like BO, because it just seems like it's a place for every bitter, angry, aging Tech fan to go and rant. I saw enough of them on Saturdays to know that I don't like drinking with them, and I certainly wouldn't like engaging them on an internet forum. But like I said, some people don't like pie. Whatever floats your boat.
 
These are not blanket statements. Met the man 3 times that I remember but I think it was more than 3 more like 4/5 times. He did not impress me at all.

I was told by someone in the GTAA and I hope I don't compromise him. But I was told he walked around mad as a wet hen and was fussing about being a winner etc then being fired, how he did his best etc again. As for his character he said many things that embarrassed Tech and he said them on radio etc, remember the time when he was asked about a certain Ugag player and he remarked I didn't know that per the AJC in an interview. My gosh man it was his job to know that. Remember he also said UGag was just another game. He also said the QB position was open in the spring then proceeded to name the 1st, 2nd and 3rd QB position some who had never played a down.

Now you answer me how do you know he was such a man of character. As for his recruiting we had 4 yes four years of substandard recruiting. I guess the light went on for him like he said it did for A J Suggs. I actually feel sorry for A J, Ball, and TB to have played for a guy who knew nothing of the QB position. Don't believe look at all the QB transfers, example Hall who transferred and then was drafted by the NFL didn't play but was drafted.

Parkin yes ignorance is bliss and Gailey is a happy man, but not the fan base except for a few like some here.
 
Well, I'd have been pissed it I was him. Wouldn't you? But to his credit he handled it okay in public.

There is a lot about his coaching legacy that didn't turn out well but he isn't an idiot and he isn't a terrible coach. He just turned out not to be the guy for Tech. Yes, he had trouble with college QBs, but don't hold the Hall situation against him. He was listening to his holdover OC, O'Brien when he slotted guys for that first spring. Hall would have likely started before that season was over had he hung around IMO. But he bailed before giving it a chance. Blame Chan for lots of things, but I don't see how you can blame him for that one.

This is exactly what I hate about BO though. If someone is "bad" then everything he does is terrible and everything bad that happpens is his fault. The world simply doesn't work that way, but most buzzoffers can't see any gray nor can they make honest assessments about anything.
 
Allen Koholic said:
It's one thing not to like Gailey's results, and it's another thing not to like the man. I always thought he seemed like a stand up guy, and most comments I heard about him only backed that up. I was sad to see him get fired in the way he did, but it was as good a time for change as any. I wish him all the success as possible in his future, as long as it doesn't involve beating Tech.

But hey, some people don't like pie. Old Foggy apparently doesn't like Chan. Same with most people on BO. I personally don't like BO, because it just seems like it's a place for every bitter, angry, aging Tech fan to go and rant. I saw enough of them on Saturdays to know that I don't like drinking with them, and I certainly wouldn't like engaging them on an internet forum. But like I said, some people don't like pie. Whatever floats your boat.
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Well said Allen and that makes a whole lot of sense. Many didn't care for Chan Gailey's inability to beat UGA during his tenure and I think we were all disappointed in that. However, nobody I know doubts the man's character. Since Old Foggy appears to be the BO defender on this board, what I would request him to do is this:

Since Foggy has access to what has been posted on that board while most of us are currently banned from even reading their Football section, please post a simple list Foggy for us of all nouns and adjectives used there to describe Chan Gailey over the past year. If that is too much to ask, then just post the past six months. How about three months? As I recall when I had access to that information, it was filth of the worst kind and I think that will best reveal for us what kind of garbage is spewed at that site.
 
I would never say Gailey did not do things that were good. The Tony Hollings move to running back among other but the man never fit in with D1 ball, never disciplined the team (based on TB's statements). No he was not all bad just never used good judgement. Opened his mouth when he should have shut it. Did not open his mouth when he should have. Should have brought in an OC after saying he would never be an OC and HC again etc.

I never kept account of the names on BO that Gailey was called. But dumbass, dumb ass, dumbo (mine), and I seem to remember him being called an SOB.

Pls give me your personal account about how Gailey had such fine character, not I heard this, I heard that etc. Prove that Gailey had such fine character from what I heard it was not so fine.
 
oldfoggy said:
Pls give me your personal account about how Gailey had such fine character, not I heard this, I heard that etc. Prove that Gailey had such fine character from what I heard it was not so fine.
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Let me get this straight. You were not there in person when Gailey was fired. You "heard" it from a member of the GTAA. Yet you want everyone on here to give you personal accounts of his character despite the facts that have already been presented to you. The truth you fail to acknowledge is that NOTHING will EVER change your feelings about Gailey or your OPINION about his character. Enjoy wallowing in your hatred. The rest of us will remember him as an average coach but an above-average man - because that's what he was.
 
oldfoggy said:
Pls give me your personal account about how Gailey had such fine character, not I heard this, I heard that etc. Prove that Gailey had such fine character from what I heard it was not so fine.
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First of all I don't know how you can prove someone's character to someone who doesn't want to listen. But the only thing I can say is that I've never heard or read an account of Chan acting in a way that would make me question his character. There's such a thing as preponderance of evidence you know. The only place I've ever seen anyone question his character is on BO. Even people who absolutely hated him as a coach from the beginning don't say things about his character. In fact, many have used it against him. You know, the old "if he's a Christian, he must not be competitive or mean enough". You know what? Maybe they were right.
 
oldfoggy said:
Don't believe look at all the QB transfers, example Hall who transferred and then was drafted by the NFL didn't play but was drafted.
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Wow - how long has one instance made a trend? How many other players that transferred made the NFL? How many other quartebacks that transferred done anything at another school?

Parkin yes ignorance is bliss and Gailey is a happy man, but not the fan base except for a few like some here.
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You do realize that your statement makes absolutely no sense, don't you?
 
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