The Dark Side of NIL and Portal Transfers

You guys actually believe moving a date would change anything? You do realize that players are being contacted all along. No one is following the rules. Singleton was probably contacted this past off season.

If they move the date to after the playoffs, it sounds good in theory. But in reality, if a playoff player has real money (think $200,000 or higher) in a transfer deal awaiting him, we will see all kinds of “hammy” and “high ankle sprains” all over the place. We just saw it with the Penn State QB. No one would risk an injury with real money on the table. It’s why we’ll soon see players opting out of the playoffs who are guaranteed 1st rounders. That may sound crazy today but will be the norm in the future.
 
OptionJacket said:
You guys actually believe moving a date would change anything? You do realize that players are being contacted all along. No one is following the rules. Singleton was probably contacted this past off season.

If they move the date to after the playoffs, it sounds good in theory. But in reality, if a playoff player has real money (think $200,000 or higher) in a transfer deal awaiting him, we will see all kinds of “hammy” and “high ankle sprains” all over the place. We just saw it with the Penn State QB. No one would risk an injury with real money on the table. It’s why we’ll soon see players opting out of the playoffs who are guaranteed 1st rounders. That may sound crazy today but will be the norm in the future.
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I can't figure out why everyone in sports is getting paid up front. Nobody in any other line of works gets a check before they show up. These collectives are dumb if they aren't structuring the deals where pay days happen either after the game/season or better off after a win is delivered.

The fact contracts aren't being talked about with the players yet in the court is insane. Maybe it has been and I missed it
 
gambler said:
I can't figure out why everyone in sports is getting paid up front. Nobody in any other line of works gets a check before they show up. These collectives are dumb if they aren't structuring the deals where pay days happen either after the game/season or better off after a win is delivered.

The fact contracts aren't being talked about with the players yet in the court is insane. Maybe it has been and I missed it
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You start paying players to win and somebody else will come along and pay them more to lose.
 
gambler said:
The fact contracts aren't being talked about with the players yet in the court is insane. Maybe it has been and I missed it
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It's being talked a lot among fans. No doubt it's at least being talked about by the schools themselves, but I'm pretty sure that would be the final domino to have the players classified as employees instead of students and they still want to avoid that as long as possible.

I think we will end up with contacts in the next few years though. This just isn't sustainable.
 
samsgt02 said:
I would not want to get "paid" in perks. Pretty sure you have to pay taxes on these things. And he's going to hate what tax bracket he's in at that salary range. That $700K is going to shrink pretty quickly with all these perks.
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Taxes? LOL. Do you really think these kids are filing taxes?

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Vespid said:
I'll be surprised if they don't move the transfer portal window till AFTER the CFB playoffs are complete in the very near future, especially with this Marshall situation. Status quo is comically absurd and not sustainable IMHO.
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Nothing is going to change because of the Marshall situation. It will change if/when the factories complain about. Period.
 
LongforDodd said:
Won’t these payments be considered expenses that can or will be reportable to the IRS and this compensation to the players be accompanied with a 1099?
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No clue, I know little about taxes. I'm just saying that with the schools paying them directly and all the attention on this issue, there's going to be some process in place to make sure they file taxes.
 
The market will self correct like they always do. We are still in the infant stage of NIL and it’s the Wild West (which I love). Eventually, schools will realize the benefit isn’t worth the money. As an example, does anyone believe Singleton getting over a million bucks at Auburn will really benefit them that much? They make think that today because we all believe our purchases are awesome, but in a year from now someone with common sense and a calculator over there will be sitting at a desk and laughing at that purchase.
 
Unpopular opinion , maybe. But as half assed and poorly thought out the portal and NIL stuff is, it only serves to help schools like Tech and harm the factories. As soon as there are salary caps etc, the factories will just go back to their mature underground bagmen to pay players like they always have above the salary cap. I’m good with keeping things as is. Maybe some tweaking of the calendar , but no salary caps.
 
Dirty Jacket said:
Unpopular opinion , maybe. But as half assed and poorly thought out the portal and NIL stuff is, it only serves to help schools like Tech and harm the factories. As soon as there are salary caps etc, the factories will just go back to their mature underground bagmen to pay players like they always have above the salary cap. I’m good with keeping things as is. Maybe some tweaking of the calendar , but no salary caps.
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This is exactly what would happen because it’s been happening for over 50 years. Welcome to the club of enlightenment! This sport has been professional wrestling with fixed matches and yet people want to go back to the old ways where UGA kills us because we follow rules and they don’t.
 
Dirty Jacket said:
Unpopular opinion , maybe. But as half assed and poorly thought out the portal and NIL stuff is, it only serves to help schools like Tech and harm the factories. As soon as there are salary caps etc, the factories will just go back to their mature underground bagmen to pay players like they always have above the salary cap. I’m good with keeping things as is. Maybe some tweaking of the calendar , but no salary caps.
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100%. Wild west favors us. Which I did not see coming.
 
Dirty Jacket said:
Unpopular opinion , maybe. But as half assed and poorly thought out the portal and NIL stuff is, it only serves to help schools like Tech and harm the factories. As soon as there are salary caps etc, the factories will just go back to their mature underground bagmen to pay players like they always have above the salary cap. I’m good with keeping things as is. Maybe some tweaking of the calendar , but no salary caps.
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I don't think so. If schools and and a players union have signed legally binding agreements for a salary cap, then the penalties for breaking it will be meted out by the courts rather than a toothless and biased NCAA. People will be a lot less willing to break the rules when they are risking actual, personal punishment to do so.

That said, I'm not convinced there will be an actual salary cap for precisely that reason. MLB operates without one, as do overseas soccer leagues -- I think CFB will be the same.
 
andrew said:
I don't think so. If schools and and a players union have signed legally binding agreements for a salary cap, then the penalties for breaking it will be meted out by the courts rather than a toothless and biased NCAA. People will be a lot less willing to break the rules when they are risking actual, personal punishment to do so.

That said, I'm not convinced there will be an actual salary cap for precisely that reason. MLB operates without one, as do overseas soccer leagues -- I think CFB will be the same.
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Come on bro.
 
Dirty Jacket said:
Come on bro.
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I am coming on. To your mom. CFB is turning into a pro sport, and pro sports figured all this stuff out a long time ago.

It's a lot more likely that the factories say, "We're never agreeing to a salary cap because we want to continue to leverage our massive financial advantages" than they are to say, "We're going to agree to a salary cap, break it, and hope that our opponents and the courts look the other way on us violating a clear, legally binding contract."
 
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