Thoughts?

demjackets said:
Everybody happy with the win?

Like the change at CB?

Greg Smith stepped up.

Does this change anyones views?

Chances next week?
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yes, happy with the win - yes, the CB switch worked today - yes, Greg Smith had a good day - no, does not change my view - don't like our chances, pulling like hell though
 
If we can bring somebody in who can beat UGAy and finish bettter than 7-5, then I'm all for a change.

If we don't think we can then we shouldn't make the change.

Maybe that's obvious but I don't hear much discussion about it...
 
gtyellowjackets said:
If we can bring somebody in who can beat UGAy and finish bettter than 7-5, then I'm all for a change.

If we don't think we can then we shouldn't make the change.

Maybe that's obvious but I don't hear much discussion about it...
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Why would we think we couldn't? I don't even understand the question I guess. If we aren't happy with where we are, we look for a change and find the best coach we can. If we're happy where we are we stand pat. But what we don't do is not make a change because we're afraid.
 
gtyellowjackets said:
If we can bring somebody in who can beat UGAy and finish bettter than 7-5, then I'm all for a change.

If we don't think we can then we shouldn't make the change.

Maybe that's obvious but I don't hear much discussion about it...
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The problem I see is the length of the contracts. I think they should be no more than 3 years negotiable after the 2nd year. 9 recruits out of 10 are going to come to the school and not neccessarily the coach. I could be wrong though.

In this day and age you should see vast improvement from year one to year two and by the third year given the talent on the team should be significant.

Whoever we bring in I will give a one year pass maybe two depending on injuries but no more.

I gave Chan 4 years by being stubborn but that's my mistake and I'm man enough to admit it. We have the talent so no excuses there as well.
 
refrigeratormover said:
The problem I see is the length of the contracts. I think they should be no more than 3 years negotiable after the 2nd year. 9 recruits out of 10 are going to come to the school and not neccessarily the coach. I could be wrong though.

In this day and age you should see vast improvement from year one to year two and by the third year given the talent on the team should be significant.

Whoever we bring in I will give a one year pass maybe two depending on injuries but no more.

I gave Chan 4 years by being stubborn but that's my mistake and I'm man enough to admit it. We have the talent so no excuses there as well.
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I agree about contract length. It seems like they're being compensated because of how high risk/volitile it is, but really, the only risk is having to move to another city. Once you're in the coaching club, you're in and can pretty much always find a 150k+ job somewhere as long as you haven't done something really stupid and gotten blackballed from the profession.

I think having no more than 4 year contact at any time would be a smart move for schools, but that horse is pretty much out of the barn and not a lot of other ways to go back.
 
JTS said:
We still have WR's that don't know where to line up or what route to run and way too many dropped passes. I would say that we basically run a high school wing-T offense, but there are high school teams that get much better execution than us. I bet over a third of our offensive snaps were direct snap runs. What does it say when you're in year 6 of a regime with your most talented and experienced team and your best play is direct snap to the RB?

We were in FG range driving to win and our fans were booing the playcalling and the obvious confusion on the sideline with the game management.
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I'm going to stretch the gist of your post a little...

I think the often overlooked factor in leading and managing is that some people are mentally capable of breaking down the areas of an organization (football team) and its objectives, and optimizing the factors to more efficiently reach the goal (winning and consistently acceptable performance).

Maybe Gailey's brain just doesn't have this natural managerial edge.

It's the same reason why an engineer doesn't always make a great business man. It's a completely different skill set to steer a goal oriented organization, in this case a football team, to operational consistency and success.
 
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I gave Chan 4 years by being stubborn but that's my mistake and I'm man enough to admit it. We have the talent so no excuses there as well.[/quote]

I have the greatest respect for you and your football knowledge but it would seem if anyone could understand the handicap that Chan has had (flunkgate/probation) you would. Actually I think he has done quite well under the circumstances. Sure he has made mistakes and will continue to do so but I don't see anyone who could have done better. I believe if we will let him get beyond these issues he will do great. Yes we have had winning seasons every year he has been here and I have seen it much worse.
 
Just curious about something. People keep saying WTTE "no one could have done more under the circumstance". How do we know? He didn't have any limitations his first year and we got the same thing we've gotten every year. In fact, someone who remembers the chronology tell me if flunkgate was after his first or second year?

I'm sure Chan's a great man and knows football. But sometimes coaches just don't have "it" and never will. Maybe he's just one of those guys?
 
7-5 doesn't mean much when you are 1-4 against winning teams, assuming we lose to UGA.

I'll guess that we are 3-8 or so in the past 2 years against winning teams.
 
ncjacket said:
Just curious about something. People keep saying WTTE "no one could have done more under the circumstance". How do we know? He didn't have any limitations his first year and we got the same thing we've gotten every year. In fact, someone who remembers the chronology tell me if flunkgate was after his first or second year?

I'm sure Chan's a great man and knows football. But sometimes coaches just don't have "it" and never will. Maybe he's just one of those guys?
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So my thoughts on CCG are that he is a good man, and a very good coach for making a bad team into a mediocre/respectable, but not very good at turning a decent/good team into a great team. And thats fine, he held the ship during some difficult times at GT (2002/2003 weren't exactly talented teams) but last years team and this years team have a lot of experience and we've got virtually nothing to show for it, and sometimes you have to change the head man to get to the next level.
 
refrigeratormover said:
The problem I see is the length of the contracts. I think they should be no more than 3 years negotiable after the 2nd year. 9 recruits out of 10 are going to come to the school and not neccessarily the coach. I could be wrong though.
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I've always heard the exact opposite. I think the coach is a major factor, if not the biggest factor, in a recruit's decision. Just look at Notre Dame before and after the hiring of Weis.
 
gth816f said:
I've always heard the exact opposite. I think the coach is a major factor, if not the biggest factor, in a recruit's decision. Just look at Notre Dame before and after the hiring of Weis.
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I'm going on how I made my decision and the guys I talk to made theirs. I'm sure things have changed.

Recruits I believe go to systems they feel might get them to the next level or too a school who has immediate needs which is Tech because we don't have depth. Lastly I'm sure it helps if you like the coach.

I liked four of the 5 coaches that I took visits too but didn't chose Tech because of BC.
 
demjackets said:
Everybody happy with the win?

Like the change at CB?

Greg Smith stepped up.

Does this change anyones views?

Chances next week?
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The change at CB looked very good. Greg Smith stepped up -- finally! Tashard looked good throwing the ball as well as running the ball. Nesbitt needs practice running the gauntlet, but looked good nonetheless. Brooks was unconscious. WOW!

As to my views, I think we were fortunate to win the game considering the zany play calling and poor execution. We looked better at the beginning of the season than we do now on offense.

We might have two chances of winning next week: (1) Slim and (2) None. But stranger things have happened. If we play solid offense like we did for most of the last 2 minutes of the UNC game; control the clock and don't turn the ball over; and forget the crazy plays like the punt by Bell and the squib kickoffs...then I would feel more optimistic. OK, but I can dream, can't I?
 
demjackets said:
Everybody happy with the win?

Like the change at CB?

Greg Smith stepped up.

Does this change anyones views?

Chances next week?
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happy cause we won; yes, happy with how we played no; happy with some of the coaching decisions no, happy with some yes

GSmith...its about time...he played like this in fall practice nice to see him show up

no it doesn't, in fact in some areas strengthens them and if he loses to UGA he still should be gone IMO

Chances...right now slim. We have played 4 GOOD teams. Lost BC by a blowout. Lost VT by a blowout. Lost UVA close but I think they are better now than then, Won Clemson....same thing playing better now than then. At home, against good teams we are 1-2 with two blowouts.
Chances; slim, if we don't turn it over once and play solid D we have a chance. We haven't done either in the same game much this year against GOOD competition.

Think UGA wins by 10-13.
 
demjackets said:
Everybody happy with the win?
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A win is a win, but I was unhappy with our performance on the field. I thought that once again this season, the kids looked unprepared and lacked focus.

Like the change at CB?
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About Damn time. Maybe Gailey will learn that Nesbitt is the best option at QB next week, just in time for UGA. I'll give him a cookie for figuring it out all on his own. But yes, I like Burnett at CB.

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No, I still think y'all (GTAA) are going to have to make a change if you expect to make any decent money next year in ticket sales and donations.

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I have season tickets on the 50 yard line in the club seats. I love my tickets. However, just so you can pass this along to Dan, I've given away every ticket I had this season except for the BC game. Why? Because I don't like the product on the field.

The only reason for going to the UGA game this week is because I have never missed a GT/UGA game in 17 years. The rivalry is important to me. It means something. It means more than just another ACC game. Go tell Gailey that!
 
demjackets said:
Everybody happy with the win?

Like the change at CB?

Greg Smith stepped up.

Does this change anyones views?

Chances next week?
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Chances? Our chances against Georgia with a team coached by Chan Gailey are about the same as the moon falling out of the sky.
 
Bobby....er...uh....I mean JD ;-), Tommy L mentioned on ESPNU the other day that one of the changes he's seen in talking with recruits the last several years is they tend to list the two same things at the top of their priorities in choosing a program.....

(1) Depth chart

(2) Relationship with the coaches

....before W-L record, academics, etc....

BTW, da' Bills are gonna have a tough row to hoe in the 2nd half. Sheesh!
 
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