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Which 2 problems are the worst after 3 games?

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The absence of 2/3rds of our kicking game (thank God for Harvin) is doing more harm than any of the other choices, IMO. How the hell have we gone from Butker to this?
 
I know I must be a glutton for punishment, but I’m rewatching the game. Two points I wanted to make. One their QB grounded the ball twice without even a hint of the head ref going after his flag and two, can Minihan not figure out to snap the ball when defender jumps into the neutral zone(needs to be coached up on that). That’s a free play right there we are giving up.
 
stingmeyall said:
I know I must be a glutton for punishment, but I’m rewatching the game. Two points I wanted to make. One their QB grounded the ball twice without even a hint of the head ref going after his flag
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I missed this too, I think. When did these happen?

stingmeyall said:
and two, can Minihan not figure out to snap the ball when defender jumps into the neutral zone(needs to be coached up on that). That’s a free play right there we are giving up.
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I was mad about this at first too, because I don't think we've ever successfully done that offsides quick snap once in my time. But when I looked again, I think it happened right when we were looking to the sideline for the playcall, so either he made a heads up decision or simply didn't know what to do. Unfortunately my money is on the latter, but it may have saved us a wild snap and turnover. Correct me if I'm wrong, I only checked the once.
 
JacketFan77 said:
The absence of 2/3rds of our kicking game (thank God for Harvin) is doing more harm than any of the other choices, IMO. How the hell have we gone from Butker to this?
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Not only that, now teams know that the likelihood of us even being able to kick a short FG is low. No need to all out blitz to make us lose yardage, just get us to 4th down. It is as good as a punt
 
Turnovers and kicking. Any other stuff we wouldn't be griping about because we would be at least 2-1.
 
So after sleeping on it, I’m wondering how much not having our usual TEs is affecting the offense and the play calling. It seems that neither UCF or Syracuse treated Coco as much of a threat and that made them free to do some different things on defense. It’s jamming up our other receivers and allowing for more qb pressure.

This is not a knock on Coco who has done an admirable job of filling in.
 
Then play Camp at TE. He’s big enough. We’re not the first team that has had to make a blocking TE work. Coach has to schematically adjust if that’s really an issue.

Also, the offense moved the ball. There were mistakes aplenty, but we churned yardage before shooting ourselves in the crotchel region on multiple occasions.
 
Curious why we didn’t do more QB designed runs? I know he had one fumble running last week but that’s the only one I recall. Of course my memory sucks due to alcohol
 
savbandjacket said:
Honestly no. I haven’t been able to keep up with the board and I mainly stayed out of the game thread.
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I don't do game thread either. Too much whining.

But for the TEs, not having those big targets in the game is a huge impact on our offense. Both on the plays that they catch a ball and the plays that they draw a defender away from other spots on the field to open up the running game or help open up WRs.

The guys we have in the game are simply not the same.
 
coit said:
I don't do game thread either. Too much whining.

But for the TEs, not having those big targets in the game is a huge impact on our offense. Both on the plays that they catch a ball and the plays that they draw a defender away from other spots on the field to open up the running game or help open up WRs.

The guys we have in the game are simply not the same.
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Then we completely agree. What Coco has done has been admirable and a hallmark of a great teammate. But it’s still not the same as our first line TEs.
 
Online issues contribute to a lot of the turnovers, haven’t helped the kicking game and if you include the TE (same issue: no depth and inexperienced) then it is a huge hole.

Dline issues make every job on defense harder from the calls, the alignment, to how long DBs have to cover. Cuse couldn’t get a pass off the first two games but had plenty of time to throw and run for long first downs.
 
savbandjacket said:
So after sleeping on it, I’m wondering how much not having our usual TEs is affecting the offense and the play calling. It seems that neither UCF or Syracuse treated Coco as much of a threat and that made them free to do some different things on defense. It’s jamming up our other receivers and allowing for more qb pressure.

This is not a knock on Coco who has done an admirable job of filling in.
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I think more than anything offensively it was the playcalling. Syracuse runs a very unique style of defense that allows them to be flexible with their defensive line and linebackers. They can hide blitzes and drop back DEs into coverage. There were several zone plays that messed with Sims like his throw into the middle of the field on a zone that was intercepted. The linebacker showed blitz and dropped back into coverage and Sims never picked it up. You could tell he was overwhelmed by his completion percentage. It was abysmal. The offensive line not knowing who to pick up didn’t help either. This was a game that should have relied more on the run game and passes to the outside of the field where it was easier to pick off coverages. Having the RBs we have and not fully utilizing them to take pressure off Sims was a big miss by Patenaude IMO. He kept trying to drive between the tackles or do some zone running in the same area of play and then forcing Sims to pick up the post or cross routes in the defensive backfield.
 
I was screaming when their QB would just chunk it, while in the pocket, with no receiver in sight. It happened twice while the game was still in question.
 
ee8384 said:
Kicking game is a cluster.

I view the OL play as a big contributor to the penalty and turnover issues. Sims is getting more pressure every game as a Frosh and making Frosh decisions under duress. Then the OL gets on their heels trying to pass protect and create illegal procedure penalties. Run blocking actually seems to be a strength, but if you are going for a balanced offense you have to do both run and pass blocking equally as well.
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Exactly. Surprised to see us not use a variety of screen plays.
 
The Jacket said:
I missed this too, I think. When did these happen?

I was mad about this at first too, because I don't think we've ever successfully done that offsides quick snap once in my time. But when I looked again, I think it happened right when we were looking to the sideline for the playcall, so either he made a heads up decision or simply didn't know what to do. Unfortunately my money is on the latter, but it may have saved us a wild snap and turnover. Correct me if I'm wrong, I only checked the once.
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Once was early in the game. We got some pressure so he just tossed it OB. The QB was still in the pocket so should have been flagged. Second time he threw a perfect strike to his head coach on the SL.
 
Other: inexperience

Unfortunately, this includes players and coaches.
 
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