Unblocked DE problem
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beej67
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Then I'd have to see the play diagram.
GT usually options one playside lineman, a DT or a DE.
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This was one of our halftime adjustments.
I wish we'd switched to them earlier too, but remember the upside to those is much lower. You pretty much have to truck two LBs and a safety to get over 10 yards on that play.
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There's only one problem with that play. Just like the article states, the A-back doesn't handle the CB. If he stays head up on him, Searcy could go inside or outside. He has the OLB beat to the edge here. That's exactly the way it is supposed to work.
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Not exactly. There's supposed to be one less guy there, and Searcy gets 30 yards. The fact that we missed one block means Searcy has to beat the middle guy for five or six yards. The fact that we missed the CB block as well turns the play into a loss.
ALSO note that the CB on this play isn't running with the WR. That's a play action pass opportunity if we catch them doing it. And we tried, but never seemed to guess right, except for the times we did guess right and still couldn't deliver the pass in time.
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CBs rarely play man coverage with our WRs. Safeties cover over the top. We do run a "play action" sort of pass play to try to catch the receiver in the seam but it has mixed results as JT's arm strength isn't really what it needs to be to make that throw. Maybe if we tried it with a slot receiver it would work better?
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In my humble opinion, we need to run fly routes and fades with the WRs, and we need to have a hot route that the WR runs a comeback at the sticks if the CB blitzes.
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We don't have a WR that can get behind a safety. The comebacks would be nice if we ran plays that gave JT time to set his feet and throw. On the run, he's never going to be able to get enough velocity on the ball to overcome safety speed. Especially since, as I mentioned earlier, we don't have WRs with superior speed.
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It's called a load block, with the BBack performing load block, but Mills just whiffed on the block. It basically makes the pull read correct every time if executed properly.
Anytime the handoff key is blocked, whether it is by an offensive lineman, or a running back, is called a load block. There are two types of load blocks in the Flexbone offense, the load block by the B back (simply referred to as load) and the load block by the offensive tackle, which is referred to as toad. When running the load or the toad scheme, the offense will execute the play as though they were running the inside veer play. The play can also be tagged arc or switch to predetermine the perimeter blocking scheme.
The quarterback will fake the dive phase of the triple option, but will execute the pitch phase as normal. If load was called (Figure 6-1) the B back will block the handoff key after faking the dive phase of the triple option. This does not have to be a crushing block, but must be effective. The idea here is to log block the handoff key, however the main coaching point is to stay on the defender.
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Anytime the handoff key is blocked, whether it is by an offensive lineman, or a running back, is called a load block. There are two types of load blocks in the Flexbone offense, the load block by the B back (simply referred to as load) and the load block by the offensive tackle, which is referred to as toad. When running the load or the toad scheme, the offense will execute the play as though they were running the inside veer play. The play can also be tagged arc or switch to predetermine the perimeter blocking scheme.
The quarterback will fake the dive phase of the triple option, but will execute the pitch phase as normal. If load was called (Figure 6-1) the B back will block the handoff key after faking the dive phase of the triple option. This does not have to be a crushing block, but must be effective. The idea here is to log block the handoff key, however the main coaching point is to stay on the defender.
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I'm not sure if you've noticed, but defenses do not defend us the same as they did in 2008 and 2009, either.
The offense can still work but we have to execute. That's what's so frustrating.
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They don't defend us the same now as they did in 2014 either. But some people still think it's the coaching.
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See, here's what's happened over a long time frame.
Everytime GT has won a game since 2008, the media credits the coaching instead of the players. And that infuriates opposing coaches, because it means they got "outcoached" instead of outplayed. More, it infuriates their fans, because their fans can be forgiving of an amateur player who gets beat, but a coach is being paid, and so they get pissed off that they're paying someone inferior. So after that happens too many times, the coach gets fired.
So coaches really don't like playing GT because their job is at stake much moreso than it would be playing another team. So that leads to three things:
1) All coaches we play against spend extra time prepping vs us than all their other opponents, no matter how important that other opponent might be in the grand scheme of their season. We know this because they say so in their press conferences. ND was the preeminent example, going so far as to hire a dude who's one job for an entire year was to scheme our game.
2) All coaches work their players twice as hard going into the GT game. We know this by the statistically proven "GT Hangover" phenomena, where teams are more likely to be upset the week after GT than any other week on their schedule.
3) New coaching hires in the Coastal Division, and at Clemson, are done specifically with defending the option in mind. Foster was retained for this reason, Venables was hired for this reason, Bronco Mendenhall was hired for this reason, Mark Richt was hired at Miami for this reason, etc. If you went around the country right now and tried to find a who's who of football minds that know how to defend this thing, probably half of them would be routinely on our schedule.
So the climate we're up against now, as compared to 2008, is very different. Honestly if you dropped this team back in time into our 2008 schedule, it might easily run the table, and in spectacular fashion.
The one thing we're sorta lucky about, is Kirby Smart is not an option guru. And might not even be a particularly good head coach. UGA did not focus specifically on GT with their hire because they've had such good long term success against us.
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