UNCheat caught selling team-issued shoes...allowed to stagger suspensions

The Tar Heels could only score 7 points last year against our defense.

Is it time to start feeling sorry for them like the NCAA does?
 
gtphd said:
Why does this surprise anyone? They had fake classes to make non-students eligible to play for them and they didn’t get a single penalty from it. I’m not exaggerating. That literally happened.
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Only because those fake classes were open to and enjoyed by non-athletes.

What's so sad is how deeply devalued all those UNC degrees are now. I'll never think of President Polk the same way again.
 
GT98 said:
Under these scenarios, especially #2, GT would have to drop down to division 2 or lower.
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I disagree. But either way, it needs to be an honest system. And it definitely isn’t that.
 
BuzzLaw said:
I think SAs should be able to make whatever anyone is willing to pay them. Bring all the money transactions into the light and may the highest bidder win.

OR

Make them truly SAs. Don’t give academic exceptions
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Would be THE worst thing
 
18in32 said:
Only because those fake classes were open to and enjoyed by non-athletes.

What's so sad is how deeply devalued all those UNC degrees are now. I'll never think of President Polk the same way again.
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I don't know if it's sad per se, but I know that from the time they got zero punishment for that fake class BS, I will never ever hire a UNC grad for anything. If a resume says they went to school at UNC it's going in the garbage.
 
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WreckRod said:
I don't know if it's sad per se, but I know that from the time they got zero punishment for that fake class BS, I will never ever hire a UNC grad for anything. If a resume says they went to school at UNC it's going in the garbage.
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They received a 1-year accreditation probation from SACS, which is the academic equivalent of a slap on the wrist. They should have had their accreditation revoked and been forced to reapply through the process.

Even that wouldn't have had much of an impact (the State of North Carolina would have probably legislatively accredited UNC to remain approved for federal student loans) but if you don't drop accreditation for fake courses, what does cause you to lose accreditation?
 
gtphd said:
They received a 1-year accreditation probation from SACS, which is the academic equivalent of a slap on the wrist. They should have had their accreditation revoked and been forced to reapply through the process.

Even that wouldn't have had much of an impact (the State of North Carolina would have probably legislatively accredited UNC to remain approved for federal student loans) but if you don't drop accreditation for fake courses, what does cause you to lose accreditation?
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Absolutely agree 100%. I thought they should lose accreditation and get the death penalty in basketball and football for at least 2 years.
 
WreckRod said:
Absolutely agree 100%. I thought they should lose accreditation and get the death penalty in basketball and football for at least 2 years.
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If Miami didn't get the death penalty for Nevin Shapiro, no one will. I mean the guy admitted to giving cash, yacht parties, prostitute, and drugs to 72 recruits over 8 years with the full knowledge of Miami. WTF?
 
gtphd said:
They received a 1-year accreditation probation from SACS, which is the academic equivalent of a slap on the wrist. They should have had their accreditation revoked and been forced to reapply through the process.

Even that wouldn't have had much of an impact (the State of North Carolina would have probably legislatively accredited UNC to remain approved for federal student loans) but if you don't drop accreditation for fake courses, what does cause you to lose accreditation?
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The reason was because the fake courses applied to a very small number of students, relative to the overall size of UNC.
 
gtphd said:
If Miami didn't get the death penalty for Nevin Shapiro, no one will. I mean the guy admitted to giving cash, yacht parties, prostitute, and drugs to 72 recruits over 8 years with the full knowledge of Miami. WTF?
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Nevin Shapiro was an attention-whore. What he claimed was denied by dozens of people. Were they all lying? I have no idea. But it's not like this stuff wasn't researched and investigated. Maybe the investigators got it wrong, who knows? Certainly nobody on this board.
 
18in32 said:
The reason was because the fake courses applied to a very small number of students, relative to the overall size of UNC.
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That makes it better? It was a small cross-section because athletes are a small cross-section of the general student body, making the fraud even more clearly intentional and managed by the leadership. The integrity of their academic transcripts in general should be questioned when you have students who loaded up on the fake courses so much they accidentally got minor degrees. To do anything less than revoke/reapply devalues all our degrees in general for the sake of the TV money.
 
Flywheel said:
That makes it better? It was a small cross-section because athletes are a small cross-section of the general student body, making the fraud even more clearly intentional and managed by the leadership. The integrity of their academic transcripts in general should be questioned when you have students who loaded up on the fake courses so much they accidentally got minor degrees. To do anything less than revoke/reapply devalues all our degrees in general for the sake of the TV money.
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You think some rando science doctoral students should have their entire professional and academic futures erailed because of the misbehavior of the black studies dept?

That doesn’t make sense to me. Need a different option.
 
we are facing suspension and fortitude of games because we played UNC, who had athletes selling shoes. Our 2014 acc costal title will be forfeited as well as the 2008,2014 and 2016 wins over georgia. NCAA rules this is non negotiable because we should have known.
 
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