USC and UCLA to Big Ten

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USC and UCLA to Big Ten: What's next for Pac-12, Notre Dame, ACC, Big 12 with realignment just getting started

It's now 'anything goes' in the world of major-college sports with teams and conferences facing uncertain futures
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Hmmm

One conference official reminded me that schools commit to a conference, not the other way around.

So, out with Vanderbilt and Missouri, in with Clemson and Miami? Out with Indiana and Purdue, in with Oregon and Washington?

The Big East booted Temple in 2001 for underperformance. Kansas State was on the verge of dropping football -- if the Big Eight didn't drop it first -- before Bill Snyder arrived in 1989.

It's a longshot, but judging by the events of Thursday, the scenario is not out of the question.
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I expect Miami, FSU or Clemson, perhaps all three, will challenge the grant of rights soon. When they do, we need to move quickly.

It would seem Cabrera will be much more interested in the Big10 due to their academic emphasis.

By this time next year, we could have a new conference, a new AD and new coaches for two or maybe even all three major sports.
 
GTJacket23 said:
UVA, sure. But UNC? You're vastly underestimating the lure of UNC basketball. They're one of the few bluebloods that move the needle outside of football.
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Basketball isn’t even remotely driving any of this. UNC football is a total snoozer that no one has any interest in outside of its small region (this board thinks UNC football is a much hotter brand than it is to most of the country, for some reason. It’s no better than UVA)

GT gives you Atlanta and a flag planted in the capital of the SEC. Recruiting inroads, huge metro, major media market. UNC doesn’t give any of that. It’s crazy that this board thinks 5 years of marginally better football success by UNC outweighs all that.
 
1982Jacket said:
I think every single line of that is wrong, with the possible exception that The Little Sixteen / Eighteen might start looking south for the last couple of slots. And you thinking and actually POSTING that UNC is less appealing than Tech is laughable and embarrassing.
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No one cares about UNC outside of the ACC. So all they’re left with is their location (mediocre) and fanbase (mediocre). Whereas we have our location (elite) and fanbase (mediocre). We win
 
FSU seems to be near the top of a lot of list; but what does it bring Market or Recruiting wise to the SEC or B1G? UF, AUB, and BAMA are all better off with a weak FSU. I get that FSU has been a solid football program since the 1980's.
 
aeromech said:
FSU seems to be near the top of a lot of list; but what does it bring Market or Recruiting wise to the SEC or B1G? UF, AUB, and BAMA are all better off with a weak FSU. I get that FSU has been a solid football program since the 1980's.
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I believe FSU is like GT. Both are in very fertile recruiting grounds for football. The B1G does not have any presence in the south and I think GT and FSU are more valuable as a pre-emptive strike by the SEC to keep the B1G out more than we add monetary value to the SEC.

If the SEC locks us and FSU and possibly Miami up, all states with the best football recruits by far are owned by the SEC from FL to Texas in the South. GT being in Atlanta may save us.
 
pie in the sky - but an sec offer to Clempsun,FSU,Miami,GT could lead to an excellent division for us.
adding Tex,Okla and Mizu to the sec west would make it brutal but good for TV.
the ACC 4 plus Ga,Fla,SC,Tenn,Ky,Vandy would be a fun group for us with teams fun to watch.
no Snow should be a conference requirement.
 
Buffalobuzz said:
I believe FSU is like GT. Both are in very fertile recruiting grounds for football. The B1G does not have any presence in the south and I think GT and FSU are more valuable as a pre-emptive strike by the SEC to keep the B1G out more than we add monetary value to the SEC.

If the SEC locks us and FSU and possibly Miami up, all states with the best football recruits by far are owned by the SEC from FL to Texas in the South. GT being in Atlanta may save us.
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I think they can do what you are saying with just GT & Miami. FSU and Tallahassee can dry on the vine or go to the B12 with UCF.
 
Not sure how any ACC school can leave when the media rights through 2035 belong to the ACC. USC and UCLA had no such problem.

Nobody in the ACC is going anywhere.

We had our chance and chose not to pull the trigger. The biggest objection StinGTalk offered, as I recall, was the road trip to Minnesota.
 
00Burdell said:
Not sure how any ACC school can leave when the media rights through 2035 belong to the ACC. USC and UCLA had no such problem.

Nobody in the ACC is going anywhere.

We had our chance and chose not to pull the trigger. The biggest objection StinGTalk offered, as I recall, was the road trip to Minnesota.
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I'll take that bet. The disparity is too great to not make a change. Either enough teams will leave to disband the conference or a team of attorneys will determine how to get out of this situation with as little pain as possible. Even if it is a couple hundred million dollars in penalties, that would be recovered by the leaving school in record time with the payouts that are being discussed in the new B1G contracts. The only way I see the ACC being saved is if ND goes all in, and I just don't see that happening.
 
Buffalobuzz said:
I'll take that bet. The disparity is too great to not make a change. Either enough teams will leave to disband the conference or a team of attorneys will determine how to get out of this situation with as little pain as possible. Even if it is a couple hundred million dollars in penalties, that would be recovered by the leaving school in record time with the payouts that are being discussed in the new B1G contracts. The only way I see the ACC being saved is if ND goes all in, and I just don't see that happening.
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That reminds me of what I was gonna ask. What is the ACC buyout these days? I think it was originally 3 years worth of shared per-school revenue. What is that right now, around $120 million? Notre Dame has just enough pull to convince the other 16 BIG10 schools to cover that for them, if nothing else because that TV deal with ND would pay them back maybe 10 times over. Win win for ND, wouldn't have to pay a penny. Might even be able to pull that Texas deal where they can keep NBC and that money to themselves.
 
00Burdell said:
Not sure how any ACC school can leave when the media rights through 2035 belong to the ACC. USC and UCLA had no such problem.

Nobody in the ACC is going anywhere.

We had our chance and chose not to pull the trigger. The biggest objection StinGTalk offered, as I recall, was the road trip to Minnesota.
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That all falls apart is enough ACC schools leave.
 
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