What would cfp committe do if this happens

I do think the champions of the major conferences should get an auto invite and have a couple of at large. Even if the conference champ has 2 losses, they'd be in.
 
CiraldoForever said:
What would happen if we somehow gave ga their second loss, then ga beats LSU by 31 points in the SECCG?

They couldn’t take a team with two losses to teams with losing records, so no ga.

They couldn’t take a team that lost their conf CG by 31 points, so no LSU.

They couldn’t take a team that played a weak schedule and lost at home to a team that got blown out in their conf champ game, so no Bama.

Boy, I want to see the PAUL FINEBAUM show the day after they announce no SEC team got in, and the four playoff teams are Clemson, Minnesota, Utah and Baylor.

S-w-e-e-t!
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Finebaum is a twerp. He panders to the masses, most of whom have no personal affiliation with whatever SEC team(s) they cheer for. It’s all about ratings and $$$.
 
Having a four team playoff can never be fair, when you have five power conferences, ND and possibly deserving teams from other conferences competing for the spots. It will always come down to politics under that system. The only fair plan would be an eight team playoff consisting of:

All five power conference champions, regardless of their records

Three teams from all the other teams, which would be selected by an predetermined objective formula and not by a smoke filled room of politicians.

That’s the only fair system.
 
CiraldoForever said:
Having a four team playoff can never be fair, when you have five power conferences, ND and possibly deserving teams from other conferences competing for the spots. It will always come down to politics under that system. The only fair plan would be an eight team playoff consisting of:

All five power conference champions, regardless of their records

Three teams from all the other teams, which would be selected by an predetermined objective formula and not by a smoke filled room of politicians.

That’s the only fair system.
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I don't disagree but I think a system that guaranteed the top 4 conference champs would at least cut down on the politics and still make the selection interesting. The current system has the problem is that the criteria is very subjective and changes from year to year and week to week so we all know it is BS.

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Walton said:
I don't disagree but I think a system that guaranteed the top 4 conference champs would at least cut down on the politics and still make the selection interesting. The current system has the problem is that the criteria is very subjective and changes from year to year and week to week so we all know it is BS.

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No it doesn't. The criteria is what creates the most drama to drive up ratings and revenue the players don't get to keep.
 
Tampa Jacket said:
Finebaum is a twerp. He panders to the masses, most of whom have no personal affiliation with whatever SEC team(s) they cheer for. It’s all about ratings and $$$.
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True or false: Phyllis in Mulga and other call-in characters are scripted actors.
 
Flywheel said:
No it doesn't. The criteria is what creates the most drama to drive up ratings and revenue the players don't get to keep.
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Yeah, I almost clarified (it is clear from my other posts) that if you go to 4 auto bids, then you have to expand to 6 or 8 team playoffs to keep the drama element. I think the debate is good and healthy, I just think too many mistakes can happen with only 4 and the lack of cross conference games.

Another idea: if we go to 8, then 4 auto bids are the top rated Power 4 conference champions and the 5th spot is a play-in game by the 5th rated and the top G5 Team.
 
Walton said:
Yeah, I almost clarified (it is clear from my other posts) that if you go to 4 auto bids, then you have to expand to 6 or 8 team playoffs to keep the drama element. I think the debate is good and healthy, I just think too many mistakes can happen with only 4 and the lack of cross conference games.

Another idea: if we go to 8, then 4 auto bids are the top rated Power 4 conference champions and the 5th spot is a play-in game by the 5th rated and the top G5 Team.
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If we go to 8, then 9 and 10 will be bitching about being left out. The way this has worked out has served well, if it aint broke dont fix it
 
  • BCS formula using the average of 6 computer rankings (no AP or coaches' polls)
  • Take top 4 conference champions. To count, a conference must have at least 8% of FBS as members (10 schools). All others are "independent".
  • Top Independent can count as a "conference champ" if they are rated by the computers as within the top 4. Incentive to be in a conference while not locking anyone out.
  • Seeding by computer ranking.
Lower conferences get a shot, conference championships become really important, out-of-conference games matter because strength of schedule matters. The 5th conference champ has little leg to stand on if 4 other conferences produced higher-rated champs, and the 2nd best team in the best conference has no leg to stand on because they couldn't win their conference first. It's fair, uncomplicated, neutral, and offers no guarantees of Ohio State vs Alabama and therefore won't be happening.
 
Would be interesting if the mutts lost to Auburn and Texas A&M and also if Texas AM beat LSU. SEC would be a mess at that point.
 
Walton said:
I want 8 for the simple reason that I want teams to be able to win their way in by winning their conference championship game. We can debate the 3 at large bids and still have our "fun".

I would never support more than 8. 6 might work: Top 4 Conference champs plus 2 at large.
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Makes sense until you think about how many times the SEC would get 3 or, god forbid, 4 teams in. They are 3 of top 5, and 5 of top 12, right now. No thanks.
 
TechRush said:
Bama wins out, LSU wins out but loses SECCG to UGA who won out. 2 SEC teams 11-1 (Dawgs 12-1). Only undefeated team is Clemson. Ohio St 11-1, lost to MN in B10CG who is 12-1.

Who gets in?

Keep in mind UGA lost to a mediocre South Carolina team.
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Only one 11-1 in your scenario. LSU would be 12-1 because math.
 
ClubSeats said:
8 game regular season, 128 team playoff.
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I support an eight team playoff, including champs of all five power conferences, because it means that, if we ever win the ACC again, we won’t get screwed by the same bias that gave 5th down Colorado a share of our 1990 national championship.

(At Colorado, if they go for it on fourth down and don’t make it, the PA announcer still says “it’s money down,” and they line up and try to run another play... because it got them a national championship once... so, when you can get it, fifth down is the real “money down.”)

So, I’m supporting an eight team playoff, because it’s the only fair thing that’s really possible any time soon.

But, my dream plan would be this:

Every team plays eight conference games and two out of conference games. Then, you pick conference champs based on the conf record, with ties broken by out of conf records and a strength of schedule formula.

Then, you have a 64 team playoff, picked by a computer. This is about the same number of teams that go to meaningless bowls now. Plus, after the first two playoff rounds, there’d only be 16 teams left.

In this system, only two teams would play 16 games in a season, and last year Clemson won 15, so no argument that it’s too many games.

You could use the existing bowls for the playoffs. Suddenly, they’d all be interesting and important. It’d be “Fall Madness.” How far would App State go? How would the conferences really stack up against each other? How much money would be made?

It would be the greatest thing in the history of sports. It would be football heaven.
 
I could go for an 8 team playoff if:
All 5 conferences champs were guaranteed a spot.
Minimum one slot out of the power 5.
No conference could have more than two slots.
No independents allowed.

And Epstein did not hang him self.
 
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