Why our coaching is awful- an example

midatlantech said:
Saban has good and bad moments in every game too. That's a good example where we could have been better but I don't think it had a huge impact on the game. Minihan going down had a huge impact on the game. A personal foul by us had a HUGE impact on the game. Two unnecessary holding penalties on us had a huge impact on the game.
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I don’t ever remember saban running a 3-3-5 against run heavy teams and only blitzing 3, 4 at most.
 
PressManCoverage said:
Why can't you admit that both sides (coaching staffs) taught their Players the right way to do the right things, and under game pressure lesser talented Players choke, forcing CGC to go to pressers and give us more coachspeak than normal
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You've been on here for weeks defending the coaching blaming it all on the players. Saying all coaches are the same. I have two questions for you.

1. If coaching doesn't matter because they all coach the same, are you saying the only way for tech to win is to recruit better and have more talent than the teams we play including Clemson and the dwags?

2. Were we more talented than all the teams we beat with the former coach?

You are right, we have to have talent to win but you also have to have coaches that can get the talent ready to play and put them in the right position to win games.
 
PressManCoverage said:
Trade offs.

When you move the pocket, in many cases you cut the Field in Half making it easier for the DBs to jump Routes and intercept passes, using Play Action like naked boots or a waggle to move the Pocket might work, but you gotta use it on 1st & 2 d down when they are expecting the run, once our Center went down, we could no longer run.

The Guy you're slamming - saying he ain't a pocket passer?

With 50 secs left after having a bad game, he was able to be mentally strong enough to flush that, and came out with 2 explosion pass plays that were nullified by a low snap and a holding, so IMO he's a good enough pocket passer right now that is working to improve.

Dude never quits, is a gamer and has the clutch gene, I'll take it at this point.
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Define "slammed". I hope you don't have a second degree in journalism from Athens. Don't be so woke and butt hurt. He's better as a dual threat at this point. He may develope into pocket passer eventually, time will tell.
 
RaiderJacket said:
Define "slammed". I hope you don't have a second degree in journalism from Athens. Don't be so woke and butt hurt. He's better as a dual threat at this point. He may develope into pocket passer eventually, time will tell.
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In the context of PNode's Offense and this discussion, saying he's not a pocket passer despite playing behind an inconsistent OLine is slamming him.

Dual-threat is way overused IMO when talking about QBs.

IMO Sims is a pass-first QB, that is very fast and can run if needed, we need him to run in our Offense.

Behind a better OLine he could never run, except on scrambles when Pass-Pro breaks down, and still be a very good College QB passing 30+ times per Game, assuming he continues to improve.
 
PressManCoverage said:
With 50 secs left after having a bad game, he was able to be mentally strong enough to flush that, and came out with 2 explosion pass plays that were nullified by a low snap and a holding, so IMO he's a good enough pocket passer right now that is working to improve.
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1 week ago you were telling us how plays overturned by penalties dont count when evaluating sims because they officially didn't happen. But when it supports your argument they suddenly do?
 
PressManCoverage said:
Do you honestly think that we Coach our Center to snap the ball low for at least 2 straight seasons, throwing off the timing on damn near every play?
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Bad coaching is not "tell the center to snap the ball low". Bad coaching is not preparing the center, through a combination of drills and teaching technique, to snap the ball properly.

A huge part of coaching, especially in college, is preparing players to execute. Now obviously players can only execute as far as their talent level allows them, but I (and many others, it seems) feel we have seen a lot of examples where we have failed due to lack of proper preparation, not lack of talent. And that's what people mean when they say "bad coaching".
 
mookie43 said:
longer than Collins will be here……….
The question you should be asking is how does a crap team like Miami beat us the same way the crap team at VT beat us and the same way the crap team at NIU beat us.
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How does a crap team like Louisiana Monroe ever beat Alabama?
 
andrew said:
Bad coaching is not "tell the center to snap the ball low". Bad coaching is not preparing the center, through a combination of drills and teaching technique, to snap the ball properly.

A huge part of coaching, especially in college, is preparing players to execute. Now obviously players can only execute as far as their talent level allows them, but I (and many others, it seems) feel we have seen a lot of examples where we have failed due to lack of proper preparation, not lack of talent. And that's what people mean when they say "bad coaching".
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So what you are saying is that CBK hasn't put our Centers thru the necessary drills for them to be able to execute a shotgun snap in Games?

These guys wouldn't have 20+ years Careers at the FBS Level (CBK) and they never would have been on a Coaching Staff of a GOL (CBK) or a Saban (CBK) if they were as negligent as you claim above.

How many Practices did you attend where you observed CBK and the negligent Coaching you described above?

Unless you were at Practice to observe the negligence you claim above, where did you get incontrovertible visual evidence to make such a claim on this public forum?

The bolded sections above sound like something you pulled from the ether, straight out of mid air!
 
PressManCoverage said:
So what you are saying is that CBK hasn't put our Centers thru the necessary drills for them to be able to execute a shotgun snap in Games?

These guys wouldn't have 20+ years Careers at the FBS Level (CBK) and they never would have been on a Coaching Staff of a GOL (CBK) or a Saban (CBK) if they were as negligent as you claim above.

How many Practices did you attend where you observed CBK and the negligent Coaching you described above?

Unless you were at Practice to observe the negligence you claim above, where did you get incontrovertible visual evidence to make such a claim on this public forum?

The bolded sections above sound like something you pulled from the ether, straight out of mid air!
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How many practices did you attend where you observed the coaches putting the players through the proper drills to execute well the the game? Do you have incontrovertible visual evidence of said proper coaching?

Given all of the failures we've seen on the field, it almost sounds like you've pulled your claims of everything being the players' fault from the ether, straight out of mid air!
 
QuadF said:
1 week ago you were telling us how plays overturned by penalties dont count when evaluating sims because they officially didn't happen. But when it supports your argument they suddenly do?
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It doesn't count in the Stats, I agree to that

Where it counts in this instance is in minds & psyche of his Teammates & Coaching Staff, they all knew he had a bad Game.

Seeing a player have a bad Game and then immediately flush it, and perform with icewater in his veins earns Sims a lot of credibility with his Team & Coaches, even if the play is nullified due to penalty, the Team trusts him a lot more than they did before, they know they have a gamer at QB.

Lots of guys can put up stats, not all have the clutch gene.

Before I go, what did you think seeing Sims come out and hit that big pass play after the low snap, did you think we were going to score, did you think he picked the right time to get his act together?

That's called the clutch gene!

Once upon a time if we were in the same situation, we'd throw 4 jump ball passes and then go quietly into the night, but with Sims & PNode, no matter how many cheap shots you take at them, you know we have a puncher's chance.
 
midatlantech said:
Saban has good and bad moments in every game too. That's a good example where we could have been better but I don't think it had a huge impact on the game. Minihan going down had a huge impact on the game. A personal foul by us had a HUGE impact on the game. Two unnecessary holding penalties on us had a huge impact on the game.
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Are you seriously comparing our coaches to Saban?
 
PressManCoverage said:
Before I go, what did you think seeing Sims come out and hit that big pass play after the low snap, did you think we were going to score, did you think he picked the right time to get his act together?

That's called the clutch gene!
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My thought, before he even threw the pass and which I said out loud with others there, was 'he put his knee on the ground'. As soon as they announced the video review, I said, 'this is coming back'. Are you saying you didn't see it?
 
thegtstunner08 said:
Are you seriously comparing our coaches to Saban?
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For you and everyone else that responded similarly, the comment on Saban was simply that the example provided probably did not impact the game that much. Coaches calling a game are not perfect. Players on both sides are not perfect. If and when they will be, then the games will forever be on Madden.
The Miami game was well played on both sides. The game came down to a few key mistakes or bad call against us. We were not lucky.
But the boys played well and with great spirit. I support them and expect to see better things next year.
 
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