WTF with the red in BDS????

[beej67]

How can you say that? We give GA 10,000 seats for each game. Because of the flex packs we allow more tickets to be bought by their fans they didn't get them through the school. How can you say the additional tickets sold to Ugag fans in the fall "does not increase the number of Ugag attendees?" We obviously took a different calculus class.
Because of our desperation to sell tickets, we now must endure the flooding of BDS with the damn dawgs.

Lol.

There's two ways to sell tickets: in singles or in 3 packs. HOW ON EARTH would selling tickets to the UGA game in singles reduce the number of UGA attendees?

Do you seriously think that there's some UGA fan who bought a flex pack who wouldn't have bought a single instead if he had the option?

Think, dude. Selling them in singles just gives more UGA fans the option to come.

I know gaggers who buy the flex packs and sell the other tickets on ebay and claim to make enough money on the sale to pay for their uga tickets.

Then clearly either A) we're not charging enough for the flex packs, or B) more tech fans should do the same thing.

 

[GTKyle]

Lol.

There's two ways to sell tickets: in singles or in 3 packs. HOW ON EARTH would selling tickets to the UGA game in singles reduce the number of UGA attendees?

Do you seriously think that there's some UGA fan who bought a flex pack who wouldn't have bought a single instead if he had the option?

Think, dude. Selling them in singles just gives more UGA fans the option to come.



Then clearly either A) we're not charging enough for the flex packs, or B) more tech fans should do the same thing.

I guess what needs to happen is that the tickets need to be offered to season ticket holders and alumni first and then opened up as a flex pack.

 

[WracerX]

Move the game in the Georgia Dome every year. We would probably do better financially by selling 40k tickets (1/2 of the dome) every year, than selling 55k tickets every other year. We would also have the UGa game in our season ticket package every year. That would increase sales.

It also wouldn't look so bad for us to have 30k out of 80k seats in the dome, rather than 30k seats out of 55k in our own stadium.

I don't think UGa would have much of an incentive to move the game though.

 

[beej67]

I guess what needs to happen is that the tickets need to be offered to season ticket holders and alumni first and then opened up as a flex pack.

I think that's how it's done already.

 

[gsu_paintballer]

Move the game in the Georgia Dome every year. We would probably do better financially by selling 40k tickets (1/2 of the dome) every year, than selling 55k tickets every other year. We would also have the UGa game in our season ticket package every year. That would increase sales.

It also wouldn't look so bad for us to have 30k out of 80k seats in the dome, rather than 30k seats out of 55k in our own stadium.

I don't think UGa would have much of an incentive to move the game though.

Great idea, but no reason at all for UGA to agree to it

 

[manjano mdudu]

Lol.

Do you seriously think that there's some UGA fan who bought a flex pack who wouldn't have bought a single instead if he had the option?

Think, dude. Selling them in singles just gives more UGA fans the option to come.

My point has been that the flex packs do nothing but increase the number of muts in the stadium. The GT game is a high demand ticket for them. The game is oversubscribed by their fan base as all 10,000 tickets are quickly consumed. Because we open up our ticket office to the public and allow more GT/GA tickets to be purchased (in a package), they hounds show up in droves and buy all they can. As a result, our stadium gets flooded with fans wearing red. How could this issue ever appear complicated? The publicly sold flex packs jam help jam BDS with muts. Where's the basis for any argument?

 

[floridajacket]

My point has been that the flex packs do nothing but increase the number of muts in the stadium. The GT game is a high demand ticket for them. The game is oversubscribed by their fan base as all 10,000 tickets are quickly consumed. Because we open up our ticket office to the public and allow more GT/GA tickets to be purchased (in a package), they hounds show up in droves and buy all they can. As a result, our stadium gets flooded with fans wearing red. How could this issue ever appear complicated? The publicly sold flex packs jam help jam BDS with muts. Where's the basis for any argument?

Huh? The only alternative is single game tickets, which will be sold to mutts anyway. I don't know what magic wand you have in mind, but it's a fact of life that we just don't have the number of alumni and sidewalk fans to fill up BDS against the mutts, at least with the mutts offering top dollar for tickets on ebay.

 

[beej67]

My point has been that the flex packs do nothing but increase the number of muts in the stadium.

And it's a dumb point unless you can show me a Georgia fan who prefers buying 3 Tech tickets instead of 1 Tech ticket.

Not selling to the public is not an option, dude.

 

[manjano mdudu]

And it's a dumb point unless you can show me a Georgia fan who prefers buying 3 Tech tickets instead of 1 Tech ticket.

Not selling to the public is not an option, dude.

I never said selling to the public was not an option; I only said the flex packs help fill BDS with red, dude.

As for GA fans willingness to buy 3 to get one, it only shows their extreme support of their team, something I think is a bit amirable.

 

[loyalGTfan]

Hmm yes I have an idea... So, we seel flex packets w/o the Ugay game in it. And we sell tickets for will call pick up only. There are two prices for tickets. $350 for anyone wearing RED or any UGAY attire. $45 for GT fans... YES... sweet that'll stop 'em.

Or we could just get better like beej said and attract more fans. I hope we get better

 

[beej67]

I never said selling to the public was not an option; I only said the flex packs help fill BDS with red, dude.

And they don't, dude. Answer this question directly:

Do you believe there are dog fans who currently purchase flex packs, and wouldn't purchase a single game ticket if they were given that option instead?

Yes or no will suffice.

Either answer makes you an idiot.

 

[manjano mdudu]

And they don't, dude. Answer this question directly:

Do you believe there are dog fans who currently purchase flex packs, and wouldn't purchase a single game ticket if they were given that option instead?

Yes or no will suffice.

Either answer makes you an idiot.

What a dumb ass. Regardless of the preference for buying tickets singularly or in a package, the fact remains that putting tickets on the open market in the fall allowed more Dawgs fans to get in the stadium above their normal 10,000 seat allocation. For some reason the stadium was packed with people in red. How you can't comprehend that allowing them to buy more tickets in the fall might have contributed to that is beyond me. You need help.

 

[gsu_paintballer]

What a dumb ass. Regardless of the preference for buying tickets singularly or in a package, the fact remains that putting tickets on the open market in the fall allowed more Dawgs fans to get in the stadium above their normal 10,000 seat allocation. For some reason the stadium was packed with people in red. How you can't comprehend that allowing them to buy more tickets in the fall might have contributed to that is beyond me. You need help.

UGA tickets are ONLY available via flex pack or season tickets. I cant fathom how anyone would think that flex packs are leading to more UGA tickets being sold to opposing fans.

And.....if our fans arent buying them...would you rather have an empty stadium?

 

[beej67]

What a dumb ass. Regardless of the preference for buying tickets singularly or in a package, the fact remains that putting tickets on the open market in the fall allowed more Dawgs fans to get in the stadium above their normal 10,000 seat allocation.

Ummm, so perhaps you would prefer tickets are never sold to the public?

You're the idiot here, dude. Tickets must be sold somehow. Tickets are being sold to as many Tech people as will buy them, then they're being sold in 3 packs to the open market, so any Georgia fans have to give us extra money. That's as good a situation as I can possibly fathom, other than if I was to crap ten thousand tech-fan-shaped turds out of my gold colored asshole who would buy tickets for us.

 

[GoldenTornado]

As for GA fans willingness to buy 3 to get one, it only shows their extreme support of their team, something I think is a bit amirable.

Color me weird but I see an irony here. The more people support a team, the less admirable each individual supporter becomes.

It's easy to be a gagger. They have the numbers that all successful "state universities" have. Their in-state rival is at an even bigger disadvantage than usual, and to a lesser degree the have an overall advantage over everyone else they play regularly except Florida. Being a gagger is very popular and creates great social opportunities. Even in the rare cases when the team is really bad, such as in the mid-1990's, you still have the solidarity of numbers on your side. It's in a nice college town that is packed with hot coed talent.

It's a bit harder to be a GT fan and stand by the program, and by any logic I can see that makes it more admirable.

 

[manjano mdudu]

Again, let's just remember what you said that got this started. Seemingly you've forgotten and find yourself on tangents arguing about the preference Ugag fans might have about buying tickets singularly or in packets (which I agree is a nice way to get more money from them). Anyway, here's what you said:

Originally Posted by beej67
Say it with me:

Flex packs do NOT INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF RED FOR THE GEORGIA GAME!

Considering that you are having some trouble with math, here is how it works out. GT gives the muts 10,000 seats for games in BDS, just like they do with us. Ordinarily, they can get no more seats unless they buy them on the secondary market from some of our fans. Because of weak demand for many GT home games, we've come up with this plan to sell some tickets in "flex packs", with the GA game as bait to lure in purchasers for some of the less desirable games on our schedule. Yes, this plan helps us sell tickets and raise revenue from games that few people want to attend, but the fact remains that many of the flex pack purchasers are Ugag fans. Obviously you don't agree with this or understand it, meaning that you have not purveyed the Ugag boards to see the mania over there as they were buying up our flex packs. As further proof, you obviously did not notice that substantial portions of BDS were full of red-clad mutts, a point which caused considerable discussion on our boards. Many of those red people were packed in the sections that included the flex packs, though again this observation seems to be beyond you.
We certainly don't know what percentage of the flex packs were purchased by mutts, but the evidence clearly suggests the numbers are substantial. But for the sake of argument, let’s assume only 100 mutt fans made those calls to our ticket office. If we normally sell them 10,000 tickets, and then allow 100 of them to get in the door through our flex pack program, the total numbers of mutts in attendance is now 10,100. In your learned opinion, is 10,100 more or less than, 10,000? You stated unabashedly "that the flex packs do not increase the amount of red for the Georgia game." Unless you think some number above 10,000 is less than that starting point, your original statement, along with this continuing discussion, is foolish, worthless, and baseless.

 

[beej67]

Considering that you are having some trouble with math, here is how it works out. GT gives the muts 10,000 seats for games in BDS, just like they do with us. Ordinarily, they can get no more seats unless they buy them on the secondary market from some of our fans.

Freeze right there.

Do you deny that Tech makes tickets available to the public for our games?

What is your plan, exactly, to prevent one segment of the public from attending, while allowing another segment of the public to attend? A poll? Secret handshake? Require people to sing the Ramblin Wreck on the phone while ordering tickets?

Your only solution is "don't sell tickets to UGA fans." Great. How? Stop selling to the public? Answer that question.

All you can come up with is "NO MORE FLEX PACKS!" So how are you going to sell the tickets otherwise? Singles? What's your alternative that somehow prevents Customer X from buying a ticket if he's a mutt?

Lets be clear:

NO MORE FLEX PACKS = SELL TICKETS IN SINGLES INSTEAD
SELL TICKETS IN SINGLES = CHEAPER FOR MUTTS TO ATTEND
CHEAPER FOR MUTTS TO ATTEND = MORE MUTTS

We clear?

 

[manjano mdudu]

Freeze right there.

Do you deny that Tech makes tickets available to the public for our games?

What is your plan, exactly, to prevent one segment of the public from attending, while allowing another segment of the public to attend? A poll? Secret handshake? Require people to sing the Ramblin Wreck on the phone while ordering tickets?

Your only solution is "don't sell tickets to UGA fans." Great. How? Stop selling to the public? Answer that question.

All you can come up with is "NO MORE FLEX PACKS!" So how are you going to sell the tickets otherwise? Singles? What's your alternative that somehow prevents Customer X from buying a ticket if he's a mutt?

Lets be clear:

NO MORE FLEX PACKS = SELL TICKETS IN SINGLES INSTEAD
SELL TICKETS IN SINGLES = CHEAPER FOR MUTTS TO ATTEND
CHEAPER FOR MUTTS TO ATTEND = MORE MUTTS

We clear?

I've never said "no more flex packs." I've only said that flex packs allow more Ugag fans in the stadium. If we improve our football product, we should be able to sell our small stadium to our own people. Irrespective of that, the mutts loaded up on GT/GA tickets because of the flex packs, which is the only point I've ever tried to make. The flex packs did contribute to the hoard of mutts in BDS.
Yes, we are struggling to sell our tickets. Our own fans won't step up to the plate. We have to flood the market to get them sold. The fact that we are doing that is undeniable. The flex packs at least allow us to make more money off the seemingly insatiable demand by the hounds, but we are feeding that demand by offering more tickets to people that aren't contributors or associated with the school in any way.

 

[WreckTheRest]

Or having something better to do with your afternoon then getting berated by inbreeds all for a losing cause that hasn't shown any progress in 6 years.

I know you're not referring to yourself, but whoever has that attitude needs to die. IMHO.

 

[YodaBee]

Some of you are plain old fashion dumb

drad gave Tech fans months to buy Season Tickets and Contribute.

We didn't step up and sellout the stadium.

drad gave Tech fans a few more months to buy Season Tickets without Contributing.

We still didn't step up and sellout the stadium.

drad then gave Tech fans who had previously contributed the ability to buy 3 game Flex Packs.

Again. We didn't step up and sellout the stadium.

He even tried a secret code whereby only Tech fans / friends of the program could buy Flex packs. But because we have a history of not selling out our own stadium, the mutts got the code.

We had a 6 month lead on dog fans buying tickets for this game, and our fans didn't step up.


We have a budget that requires revenue. If our own fans consistently refuse to sellout the season tickets AND flex packs, then the tickets have to be sold on the open market.

Irregardless, the bills must to be paid. And if we can get UGA fans to buy 3 tickets instead of one, then I would say it's a brilliant plan given the lack of faith and support from our own fan base.

And stunning to no one....there are people complaining about the amount of red in the stadium via their view on Television. If that's not ironic, what is?


What I don't understand is how some of you don't remember that we had this problem before the expansion and before the flex packs. The problem isn't the Athletic Department. The problem is our own fans selling the tickets on the secondary market.