Gruden to Tennessee

natijacket said:
gruden, obviously. All they had to do was ask!
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boozinbuzz said:
disagree with this. While the influence of a hc on a program's overall recruiting is mostly over stated, i think you have to realize how much status gruden holds to all of these hs kids. While its easy for middle aged dudes like me and you to be dismissive, these kids watch nothing but espn and are mesmerized by him.

As long as he had a solid staff to coach these kids, he could just rake in the hs talent from all of the air time he has gotten on mnf and from his qb camp shows. Basically, he would already be starting with a talent advantage over other schools which isn't a bad thing.
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+1000
 
NatiJacket said:
Who the hell watches ESPN and is mesmorized by Gruden?
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So you're saying some top high school quarterbacks wouldn't respect Gruden's NFL connections or knowledge of the position when they see him drilling/"coaching up" the likes of RG3 and Andrew Luck in hour long prime-time specials on ESPN every other day before the draft?
 
NebraskaJacket said:
So you're saying some top high school quarterbacks wouldn't respect Gruden's NFL connections or knowledge of the position when they see him drilling/"coaching up" the likes of RG3 and Andrew Luck in hour long prime-time specials on ESPN every other day before the draft?
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No, not really. Gruden has nothing to do with how skilled RG3 and Andrew Luck are. Props to Baylor and Stanford staffs...
 
JJacket said:
No, not really. Gruden has nothing to do with how skilled RG3 and Andrew Luck are. Props to Baylor and Stanford staffs...
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I don't think anyone really said he does. The point is he's great with them. He's a charismatic guy when talking about the game. Kids in high school watch these top flight quarterbacks shooting the umlaut with Gruden and think about how great it would be to play for him.

He could be a complete bust of a college coach. He could be great. Guess we won't find out next year.
 
Deke said:
The point is he's great with them. He's a charismatic guy when talking about the game. Kids in high school watch these top flight quarterbacks shooting the umlaut with Gruden and think about how great it would be to play for him.
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Exactly
 
Deke said:
I don't think anyone really said he does. The point is he's great with them. He's a charismatic guy when talking about the game. Kids in high school watch these top flight quarterbacks shooting the umlaut with Gruden and think about how great it would be to play for him.

He could be a complete bust of a college coach. He could be great. Guess we won't find out next year.
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Gruden would be under NCAA discipline within a year. If you ever read the stories about the number of hours he and Gannon put in, you'd know he couldn't help himself. I don't think he's a good fit for the college game.
 
OK guys I promised I would be back and explain everything as best I could either way (getting Gruden or not) ....so I'll try. I've been following this thing very closely for a long time so if I leave out details or if you have questions just let me know and I'll try to answer. First off let me say that I was not nor have I ever been trolling. I truly thought right up til this morning that we were getting Gruden.<br />
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I'll first say that I heard we were pursuing Gruden from a booster way back in the summer but quickly discounted it because I felt we would have an 8-9 win season this year so clearly this is not the first time I've ever been wrong....nor will it be the last.<br />
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Now as for timeline of late:<br />
When our coaching search got underway I text a guy that is a friend of mine- he's an NFL coach and knows Jon personally. I asked him if he knew we were pursuing him? He responded yes, he actually has an offer on the table of 8 years 50 million. I asked him if he thought he would take it? He said I know he's considering it but I'm not sure how seriously. About a week later I'm talking to a former player at TN and tell him what I heard. He said I'll call Peyton and see what's up. He called me the next day and said Peyton said he's agreed to the contract. I asked him how much and he said 8 years around 50 million. So I had two very credible sources saying the same thing....this is when I said it was a done deal.....little did I know at that time that he had only agreed to his personal contract. This whole mess has been about control and assistants pay. <br />
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Moving on.....I was told early on about the Saban plan and the smokescreen info and not to be worried at every media report. On Thursday before the Friday (I believe) when Hyams gave his announcement about Gruden being out of picture i received a text from a booster friend. It said be ready for announcement tomorrow. I thought this meant they were announcing Gruden that day even though it didn't match the timeline I was given. Then when Hyams gave his report I felt like this booster had lied to me and I was mad. <br />
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I tried getting a hold of him and couldn't. So I came here and posted an apology letter. When i finally got a hold of my friend he told me that this was just beginning of smokescreen to get Gruden's name out of limelight so they could work behind the scenes on finalizing different details. He said he was just meaning to warn me of announcement that Hyams was going to make. I still think he duped me because he knew my posts were getting copy and pasted to other boards. <br />
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So after talking with him I came back and made a post about me only being wrong on the time and date. Soon after the frenzy was building on message boards of Gruden still being in play....because he was. I was asked by a different friend in the football office that knows I post to come out with a post that I'm off the Gruden train. He said right now we are dealing with alot of huge egos and the quieter things are the better. So I made a sort of tongue in cheek post. <br />
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During this time I had been talking to several different people to see what info they had. We talked about this constantly. We all brought what info we had and tried to cross reference to make sure we weren't being duped. I won't go into the details of everything but suffice to say we knew Gruden was very interested and with a few of my NFL contacts I found out that he had truly approached several different coaches about joining our staff, one a real good friend. He wasn't interested due to wanting to stay in NFL but others were. <br />
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One of the guys I talk to knew a reporter from Times Free Press and said he had significant reasons to believe we were getting Gruden. We delved further and he had a local coach that was going to be on staff as a high school relations recruiting liaison and an SEC coach that was going to be on the staff if Gruden hired. He said the meetings between Gruden and TN were progressing great. Around the same time a friend of mine in GA who has an uncle that is a huge booster in Alabama. The booster told him that Gruden had asked permission to talk to the strength coach about joining TN staff. Then the reporter told us about a meeting on a Thursday night that had gotten very heated between both sides, mostly about money. Neither side wanting to give in. We had all heard not to be alarmed if we heard offers being reported etc. When the strong rumors started the people I talk to all say stay calm it will pass. <br />
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Sure enough when it did I was completely sold on this happening as I thought no way Strong turns down tn for Louisville. Anyway lots of other tidbits were shared to me but I don't want to lose friendships over it. I did talk to someone that is friends with Cindy's brother and he said they were all hoping Jon and Cindy would come home. So, when Butch Jones rumors started this was the least worried I was during this process as I knew he was not the home-run hire we were promised that would unite the fanbase....more like a bunt single. Anyway I'll try to be around long enough to answer questions but then I'm going to take a sabbatical for a time cause I'm sure lots are mad at me and reasonably so. <br />
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Trust me no one is madder than me that this didn't happen and not because I wanted to be right....it's because I love the Vols and truly want the best for our fans. I will get behind our coach but honestly my passion for this is at an all time low. Thanks again for those that believed I wasn't trolling as I would never purposefully lead anyone astray. To all I apologize for being wrong. When some time passes I'm sure I'll join back in just cause I love the Vols!
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Thought it was interesting. I would think some of its true considering Hargis's story that broke. Alas. Goodbye UT Athletics.
 
Don't be so naive. There was not than one person reporting this. I'm not saying everything that was stated is true I'm saying there's more that went on between the boosters and cheek/hart than is being revealed.
 
That dude trolled that board hard lol.
 
I'll be sure to call my friend who's an NFL coach to confirm next time we are looking for a coach. Then when I'm not sure he's right, I'll call my NFL player friend to see if he can call Calvin for me to reconfirm. Only then will I post my findings on ST. :lol:


Well played babyvol, well played :rotfl:
 
DeRRtyTree said:
Don't be so naive. There was not than one person reporting this. I'm not saying everything that was stated is true I'm saying there's more that went on between the boosters and cheek/hart than is being revealed.
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You are a dumbass if you can't see he is making up $hit.

You have been made fun of for days for this thread, and still haven't learnt anything.
 
cyptomcat said:
You are a dumbass if you can't see he is making up $hit.

You have been made fun of for days for this thread, and still haven't learnt anything.
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You are getting some Georgia in you boy. Using learnt instead of learned. Buy a pickup truck and a gun and you'll lose all ties to being a North Cypriot.
 
DeRRtyTree said:
Don't be so naive. There was not than one person reporting this. I'm not saying everything that was stated is true I'm saying there's more that went on between the boosters and cheek/hart than is being revealed.
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He turned it down early in the process. I don't get the Gruden love. He's been talked off the ledge of coaching which requires 20 hour days. I actually do know one of his friends from his Dayton days who has a completely different perspective. Gruden's mellowed. They're surprised he has controlled himself so well that he hasn't made a major faux pas on TV. There are a long line of coaches who are much happier in life not coaching anymore. Why do you think Cowher hasn't jumped on any of the multitude of job offers? It's a crap job that destroys your family life, doesn't allow any time to relax, and sends you to an early grave unless you have the Mike Ditka attitude of smoking a cigar after you traded your entire draft for Ricky Williams.
 
GT1992 said:
He turned it down early in the process. I don't get the Gruden love. He's been talked off the ledge of coaching which requires 20 hour days. I actually do know one of his friends from his Dayton days who has a completely different perspective. Gruden's mellowed. They're surprised he has controlled himself so well that he hasn't made a major faux pas on TV. There are a long line of coaches who are much happier in life not coaching anymore. Why do you think Cowher hasn't jumped on any of the multitude of job offers? It's a crap job that destroys your family life, doesn't allow any time to relax, and sends you to an early grave unless you have the Mike Ditka attitude of smoking a cigar after you traded your entire draft for Ricky Williams.
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Hindsight is 20/20; but not really in the saints/Williams case
 
GT1992 said:
You are getting some Georgia in you boy. Using learnt instead of learned. Buy a pickup truck and a gun and you'll lose all ties to being a North Cypriot.
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actually that has more to do with my British English background (Cyprus was a British colony, and high school made us take tests from Britain.)
 
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