Who would do better at GT than Paul Johnson?

jdubjacket said:
Is this going to be one of those threads where someone puts a name out there and you laugh at it or refute it just to 'prove' that we can't do better than PJ?
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No, it's not. Again, see the part where I said I've been open to this for three damned seasons.

Six years ago, Tech apparently didn't get it right. I'm hoping the school doesn't do that again. Having a list of names would be one good step.
 
Allen Koholic said:
Six years ago, Tech apparently didn't get it right. I'm hoping the school doesn't do that again. Having a list of names would be one good step.
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And you expect a bunch of fans with no experience, expertise, and who are all pissed off over both the past 24 hours and 4 years to provide a reasonable list? Sounds like bait to me.
 
jdubjacket said:
And you expect a bunch of fans with no experience, expertise, and who are all pissed off over both the past 24 hours and 4 years to provide a reasonable list? Sounds like bait to me.
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Or ööööing stupidity. Take your pick.

In 2001 my candidate for head coach was Charlie Strong. In 2007, it was Paul Johnson. I don't know who I would get behind as coach but we shouldn't be entertaining new coaches if our school doesn't actively communicate to the fan base what changes we can expect to allow for the most competitive program possible. If the school answers with "nothing" I'm not sure changing the coach is going to amount to a hill of beans but it will at least stem the bleeding some on people not buying season tickets as some fans will foolishly still support the program believing that massive success is just around the corner. I got news for you... It isn't. We need the same ability to recruit the same level of kids we did in the late 80's and early 90's.
 
I would give Roof the HC job and tell him to bring in a really talented OC and a really good OL coach.

We need a program that will be attractive to recruits that believe they have NFL potential. And, we need a program that will put fans in the stands.

And, as soon as the coaching changes are made, get rid of the FCS schools on the schedule. It is really hard to get people in the stands to see a scrimage that only has downside potential of embarassing the team or getting a key player hurt.

And, talented recruits don't want to showcase skills against FCS schools - they want to get measured against the best.
 
Let's get the old guard back together. Hire up Fridge as OC since he has no job, keep Ted Roof at DC, and bring Bobby Ross out of retirement.

Or get O'Leary back instead of Ross.
 
jdubjacket said:
And you expect a bunch of fans with no experience, expertise, and who are all pissed off over both the past 24 hours and 4 years to provide a reasonable list? Sounds like bait to me.
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I'd say that the last four years would have provided ample time for the real Paul Johnson haters to come up with a few.

And go do a search. I've asked this same thing a couple of times this season in other threads. I've been saying that losing to UGA is unacceptable for three years. But I'm not simply going simply start whining and crying and airing out my salty vagina like some other people on this board though. When you do things like that, you look like a ööööö with no idea what's going on.

Hell, naming O'Leary is better than nameless, faceless Supercoach who might come in here and restore GT to 15 win seasons, or whatever sex fantasy some of you jackwagons have dreamed up.
 
KrazieJacket said:
:mbutthurt:
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Are you one of those guys who thinks Ted came back solely due to his love of all things GT or that Bobinski was hired because of his great ability to rebuild football programs and find hidden coaching talent? I'm a more of a conspiracy theorist in that I think Roof got an agreement similar to what O'leary did when he came back and Bobinski was hired to manage the store.
 
BarrelORum said:
This argument was already had 6 years ago when people didn't want to fire Chan Gailey. You CANNOT be afraid of possibly moving backwards in your attempts to improve your current situation otherwise you'll never get to where you want to be. Period.

If you think Johnson has recruited to his full potential and coached to his full potential given the restrictions we have in place, then you have a point. But he hasn't. Really it hasn't even been close.

The school itself needs to be the first to make changes. And they need to be made immediately. Once that is done, the coaching needs to be addressed too because currently the coaching of this team is horrible. I repeat, HORRIBLE. So yes, I think we can do better but change needs to be made in two places and the coach is secondary to the school handicapping our athletics.
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BOR is right our SA's are handicapped if we want to play and compete with the big boys some things will have to change.
O'Leary could not do better under the rules in place today.
 
aeromech said:
Are you one of those guys who thinks Ted came back solely due to his love of all things GT or that Bobinski was hired because of his great ability to rebuild football programs and find hidden coaching talent? I'm a more of a conspiracy theorist in that I think Roof got an agreement similar to what O'leary did when he came back and Bobinski was hired to manage the store.
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I just think it would suck to have Roof as a head coach. We then can permanently swap spots with Duke.
 
I'm very willing to continue to be patient. Unlike Gailey, Paul has shown us what he can do when he has talent. I think he's starting to hit his stride in recruiting, and for what it's worth I really really like the fact that he graduates a lot of players. That to me is very important. I don't want GT to be accused of selling out its athletes simply to field a team without helping them achieve a degree. That may not be a very important factor in actually winning games, but it is something that I value.

I'm having a hard time coming up with coaches who would do better than PJ, because you have to include his first two years in any evaluation. And the fact that he has several OT losses in the past few seasons. Yes the final numbers are daunting, but they are not indicative of where we are. Hell I talked to a Tennessee fan who said that Butch Jones has him excited for the future, and they were pretty bad this year.

In fact I think a lot of programs (another UVA fan I talked to basically said it's time to just realize we're not going to compete with Auburn and Bama, etc.) are starting to realize just how stacked the deck is against teams that aren't willing to go all-in in order to achieve football success.

I do think that the current generation of kids is NOT suited for Paul Johnson's offense. There are exceptions to that, but those are the kids who go to the academies. Kids who value team, sacrifice, integrity, and education, are not exactly the ones that are winning football games nowadays.

Kids nowadays value touches, speed, highlights, and NFL futures. They look at our offense and don't see any of that.
 
Give George Godsey the chance. Hell, GT pays öööö good money. I realize Godsey probably has aspirations to head coach in the NFL. If he can come here and get 5-7 solid, exciting, winning seasons in, then he will get his shot at being an NFL HC.

GOL did fine learning under Ross. I would think Godsey, being a bright GT grad, has learned under GOL and Bilicheck and is probably ready for the task. I say make the call.
 
Allen Koholic said:
I'd say that the last four years would have provided ample time for the real Paul Johnson haters to come up with a few.

And go do a search. I've asked this same thing a couple of times this season in other threads. I've been saying that losing to UGA is unacceptable for three years. But I'm not simply going simply start whining and crying and airing out my salty vagina like some other people on this board though. When you do things like that, you look like a ööööö with no idea what's going on.

Hell, naming O'Leary is better than nameless, faceless Supercoach who might come in here and restore GT to 15 win seasons, or whatever sex fantasy some of you jackwagons have dreamed up.
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So, you've been asking the same question for four years of a bunch of "jackwagons", you clearly still haven't gotten the response you wanted if you're still asking, and you thought that would change today?
 
As things currently stand at GT, I think the Clemson model would be best here. Hire a HC that is high energy, good recruiter/cheerleader/face of the program guy and then hire coordinators for the X's and O's.

Both Chan and Paul had little recruiting experience in a BCS conference and it took them way too long to hit stride. I don't believe that there aren't enough smart football players out there that could handle GT.
 
The M-Train said:
Let's get the old guard back together. Hire up Fridge as OC since he has no job, keep Ted Roof at DC, and bring Bobby Ross out of retirement.

Or get O'Leary back instead of Ross.
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I'd rather just make fridge HC. Let him figure out who his OC will be. I doubt oleary or ross would come back anyways.
 
kevinw33 said:
Godsey... intriguing.
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He is obviously in it to eventually become a head coach. He is smart. He has been under the tutelage of some öööö good football coaches. He is from Florida and coached at UCF so he probably knows his way around that state well. I feel like we are going to eventually be kicking ourselves for not taking a shot at him when he is successful elsewhere.
 
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