If StinGTalk is representative of the fan base

rghoae said:
Because this is exactly what last season looked like. This game was basically Tennessee or Miami from last season. We have a great lead entering the 4th quarter and suddenly we’re on the losing side of the game at the final whistle.

The reason people are reacting so quickly is because this game led to memories from last season flooding back again.
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Nail meet head. Those saying this is just game 2 and why are we passing judgement after 2 games are simply just in denial.

If we had lost this game 27-24 where they squared up and just beat us it would be one thing, but this game was an exact extension of last years trends which is the foundation of a lot of fans frustration. And it’s just bad coaching. It’s not putting our best foot forward.

Late fumbles in critical moments, bad special teams, terrible defense (basic fundamentals like tackling), inconsistent offensive play.

All of those things were directly the cause of last years woes and a lot of it is coaching.

If we lost with GT playing a clean game then fine. We could blame it on recruiting and the academic arm hindering us because we couldn’t outplay USF. But that’s not the case. This loss could have been avoided with a more well coached football team. We all know we don’t have a wide margin and when we start losing games due to coaching then I think it’s plenty fair we demand better or a change. If we can do anything just make sure we are well coached.
 
GTplusCPJequalsSuccess said:
Nail meet head. Those saying this is just game 2 and why are we passing judgement after 2 games are simply just in denial.

If we had lost this game 27-24 where they squared up and just beat us it would be one thing, but this game was an exact extension of last years trends which is the foundation of a lot of fans frustration. And it’s just bad coaching. It’s not putting our best foot forward.

Late fumbles in critical moments, bad special teams, terrible defense (basic fundamentals like tackling), inconsistent offensive play.

All of those things were directly the cause of last years woes and a lot of it is coaching.

If we lost with GT playing a clean game then fine. We could blame it on recruiting and the academic arm hindering us because we couldn’t outplay USF. But that’s not the case. This loss could have been avoided with a more well coached football team. We all know we don’t have a wide margin and when we start losing games due to coaching then I think it’s plenty fair we demand better or a change. If we can do anything just make sure we are well coached.
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Well, for the past quarter+ CENTURY, we have been well coached, with one major exception. At no time, sans 1990, have we had better talent than uga. Each and every win vs the great unwashed was due to being well coached. Our Orange Bowl trips (since Dodd) were due to being well coached. Our MNC and TIAR were due to being well coached. We have had numerous D coaches who were successful in a big way before coming here and some who were successful after leaving. We have had countless good coaches in the modern era with similar or lesser records than the past decade. Logic tells us, that maybe, just maybe, coaching might/maybe/perhaps/possibly, not be what's holding us back. Most of us who have gray or no hair, have a pretty good handle on it via having lived a lot of life and witnessed a lot of seasons.
I understand your frustration though.
 
18in32 said:
The idea that you'd fire a successful coach because you don't like his offense is bizarre to me. The only thing I care about is winning.
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His overall record at GT, would have gotten him fired by most power conf. schools, especially losing over and over to the big boys
 
Well, I guess having an O just like everybody else would have managed 700 vs a measly 600 yds and we would have won? Woody did more with less, but not at first, and we want to hang CPJ out to dry for bringing him here? Hmmm, social media has had a bigger impact on people than dumbing down schools the past 50 years to be politically correct.
 
GoldZ said:
Well, I guess having an O just like everybody else would have managed 700 vs a measly 600 yds and we would have won? Woody did more with less, but not at first, and we want to hang CPJ out to dry for bringing him here? Hmmm, social media has had a bigger impact on people than dumbing down schools the past 50 years to be politically correct.
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I don’t hand any of this on Woody. It’s not his fault the offense inherently negatively impacts our defense. We could have Savanna over there but we would continue to see our defense struggles against conventional offenses because they don’t get the proper practice time against them.
 
GTplusCPJequalsSuccess said:
I don’t hand any of this on Woody. It’s not his fault the offense inherently negatively impacts our defense.
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The defense's performance isnt the fault of the DC?

Next you'll tell me our tackling issues are from the defense being taught to cut block because cpj only cares about developing a pipeline to offensive positions.
 
johncu said:
Of course they are. We just lost yesterday. People were ready to fire CPJ in the middle of 2014 after we had lost to UNC and Duke. Then we rattled off a streak of wins and didn't see many of them again until things fell apart in 2015.
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Incidentally, they were the same posters here a bunch in 2015, and 17. If we never lost, they'd never been seen again. :)
 
coit said:
3 Injuries on offense.

2 injuries on defense
2 defensive players ejected
1 defensive starter left in preseason

And you want to blame the coach. Puzzling logic.
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Taking Tobias out and putting in TQ........ Puzzling. Calling a toss play to the short side of the field with Qua and 100 defenders(Fumble), puzzling.
 
BigPlayCJ said:
Taking Tobias out and putting in TQ........ Puzzling. Calling a toss play to the short side of the field with Qua and 100 defenders(Fumble), puzzling.
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Trying too hard dude. Everyone but you knows why he put TQM back in. It was a passing play and TO hasn't thrown a pass in a game yet. And there was nothing at all wrong with the play call. You have to hold on to the football.
 
coit said:
Trying too hard dude. Everyone but you knows why he put TQM back in. It was a passing play and TO hasn't thrown a pass in a game yet. And there was nothing at all wrong with the play call. You have to hold on to the football.
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It was a 7 yard pass to a wide open Lynch LMAOOOO. you, in all of your excess fat could've made the play!!!!!!!
 
BigPlayCJ said:
It was a 7 yard pass to a wide open Lynch LMAOOOO. you, in all of your excess fat could've made the play!!!!!!!
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When you are the coach you can choose to leave him in.
 
"He hasn't made a pass in a game yet" isn't a very good reason to not allow him to make a pass in a game. If we operate by that logic, he'll never make a pass in a game.

I'm not saying that the right thing to do was to leave TO in there, because I don't know. I know it didn't feel great for my feels, though, because he was starting to make me believe he could will the team to the win. The fact that we seemed to just fall apart at the end under TQ didn't do much to help that feeling, especially after we fell apart at the end in so many other games behind TQ in the past. It just kind of felt like when TO was in we had found the spark. TQ may have superior athleticism and skills and all that, but he doesn't really seem to have that. Does TO really have it? I don't know, maybe it was just a coincidence that he was so successful while he was in, but I didn't enjoy not being allowed to find out whether he had what it takes to gut out a win. Didn't help that I wasn't left with anything else to enjoy, either.

So while I know I'm not football savvy enough to say that it would have given us a better chance to win to leave him in there, I can at least understand why people feel like he should've been left in there. I think for the most part, the rest of it is just rationalizing that.
 
ThisIsAtlanta said:
"He hasn't made a pass in a game yet" isn't a very good reason to not allow him to make a pass in a game. If we operate by that logic, he'll never make a pass in a game.
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It is a very good reason to not have him make a pass on 3rd and long with the game on the line. The pass was complete, first down, and we were in the red zone when another player fumbled the ball.

The decision was sound, and didn't cost us anything. They had shut down TO on successive plays, the defense had adjusted to the run left / run right playbook.
 
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