CPJ cant manage a close game

johncu said:
öööö off and DIAF. You get a chance to eat crow and decide to double down on dumbass.

We lost 3 fumbles today and still won by 10 on the road.
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Three fumbles and two öööö ups on fourth down. We had a bad day and still won. Lots of teams would have ended up losing with that öööö going down. Thankfully, our horrible ass coach didn’t let that happen.
 
coit said:
The point is that players are taught how to hold a football so that they don’t fumble it at the very earliest stages. Players have lost their jobs over fumbling too often. We have two BBs. Both have trouble hanging onto the ball. We have no one else to go to.
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No, the point is that fumbling is not randomly distributed among teams (even pro rata per rush). Some teams are better at it and some are worse. If we're among the worst (as it feels like we are, admittedly I should bring some stats to this knife fight), then it's his job to fix that problem.

Or maybe calculus makes us fumble. It seems to explain all our failings.
 
Not going for the FG at the end of the half, stroke of genius. Those 3 points could have made a real difference, especially if we didn’t get the two ints at the end. Just makes no sense. That’s poor coaching decision any way you spin it.
 
The Jacket said:
You have no guts, no balls. You're a child and a pussy. You're only here to bitch. Shut your catastrophically retarded mouth. Preferably around the business end of a revolver.

You are a ööööing piece of öööö.
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Ha ha. Anger issues?
 
18in32 said:
No, the point is that fumbling is not randomly distributed among teams (even pro rata per rush).
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And neither is the distribution of talent.

Every kid that plays football can tell you HOW to carry the football so that it can’t be ripped from you. And yet there are fumbles.

Has nothing to do with coaching and everything to do with execution or lack thereof.
 
coit said:
Has nothing to do with coaching and everything to do with execution or lack thereof.
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In the words of Ian Fleming, "Once is an accident. Twice is a coincidence. Three times is the coach's fault."
 
coit said:
And neither is the distribution of talent.

Every kid that plays football can tell you HOW to carry the football so that it can’t be ripped from you. And yet there are fumbles.

Has nothing to do with coaching and everything to do with execution or lack thereof.
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Like golf, players get bad habits and away from fundamentals. Coaches job is to correct this. I disagree here @coit . Paul said it himself how it happens with a certain position group.
 
MACHETE said:
Not going for the FG at the end of the half, stroke of genius. Those 3 points could have made a real difference, especially if we didn’t get the two ints at the end. Just makes no sense. That’s poor coaching decision any way you spin it.
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At least he admitted as much this time. Coach showing growth.
 
coit said:
And neither is the distribution of talent.

Every kid that plays football can tell you HOW to carry the football so that it can’t be ripped from you. And yet there are fumbles.

Has nothing to do with coaching and everything to do with execution or lack thereof.
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CPJ disagrees
 
18in32 said:
In the words of Ian Fleming, "Once is an accident. Twice is a coincidence. Three times is the coach's fault."
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The path of the head coach is beset on all sides by the
fumbles of the selfish and the intercepted passes of evil men
Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will
shepherds the coach through the valley of fumbles
for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost wins
And the fan base will strike down upon the coach with great vengeance and furious
Anger those who fumble and destroy the time of possession
And you will know
My name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee because your players fumbled the ball!!
 
18in32 said:
In the words of Ian Fleming, "Once is an accident. Twice is a coincidence. Three times is the coach's fault."
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I can’t tell if you are trying to troll here or you really don’t get it. Lemme try again.

Let’s say I hate you to sharpen pencils. The expectation is that you break 1 out of every 200 pencils. I show you training videos on how to sharpen the pencils without breaking them. I show you hand on how to sharpen pencils.

Then you sharpen pencils. You break one 1 pencil for every 50. I show you again and again how to sharpen them. Yet you continue to break 1 in 50.

I’d fire you, but i don’t have anyone else to sharpen the pencils.

What should I do with you? Show you how to sharpen them again because after the 10th time it will help?
 
18in32 said:
Yeah, the problem is coach has been talking about ball security and how they have to do a better job teaching it, for years. Yet it seems like our fumbles problem continues year over year.

I should look into the numbers on that.
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I’ve been thinking that in close games we are probably winning like 75 percent with one or less fumbles and losing like 80 percent with two or more. They come in threes in the worst parts of the game. It’s systemic and may be part of option football in a unique way.
 
whenyousaybud said:
The path of the head coach is beset on all sides by the
fumbles of the selfish and the intercepted passes of evil men
Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will
shepherds the coach through the valley of fumbles
for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost wins
And the fan base will strike down upon the coach with great vengeance and furious
Anger those who fumble and destroy the time of possession
And you will know
My name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee because your players fumbled the ball!!
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Always annoyed that QT used a fictional Bible quote there.
 
coit said:
Then you sharpen pencils. You break one 1 pencil for every 50. I show you again and again how to sharpen them. Yet you continue to break 1 in 50.

I’d fire you, but i don’t have anyone else to sharpen the pencils.

What should I do with you? Show you how to sharpen them again because after the 10th time it will help?
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You should show me, via some different pedagogical technique, how to sharpen them. It's *your job* to figure out what I'm missing and correct it. Throwing up your hands because you've tried all the techniques that you know of, or that you think *ought* to be sufficient, is an abdication of your duty. Unless there's some hidden variable between the kind of player we recruit and the tendency to fumble, concluding that we've done all we can do is obviously wrong.
 
18in32 said:
You should show me, via some different pedagogical technique, how to sharpen them. It's *your job* to figure out what I'm missing and correct it. Throwing up your hands because you've tried all the techniques that you know of, or that you think *ought* to be sufficient, is an abdication of your duty. Unless there's some hidden variable between the kind of player we recruit and the tendency to fumble, concluding that we've done all we can do is obviously wrong.
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Trolling. Just what I thought.

Peace.
 
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