Disappoint.

GT18YJjr.

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And how’d they do last year against Clemson?
On third, four and ‘goal to go’ down plays of five yards or less to covert.

Successful conversions:
3-4
3-1
3-1
4-2
Gl-2

Unsuccessful conversions:
4-3
 

Chattanooga Jacket

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I was concerned about playing Oliver so much and Johnson so little. This morning, I think I know the reason. We were not going to win this game barring multiple miracles. We did not want to lose our best QB options for the season in this game. This is especially true for Johnson coming off of a major injury. Therefore, Oliver took most of the snaps against Clemson's first string D and Johnson saw minimal action. If Oliver plays this much against USF, I will be disappointed.
You could say that about any of the positions. Why not play the back up punter instead of Harvin? Doesn’t make sense. Any sane coaching staff will always start the QB that gives them best chance. Johnson wasn’t that guy last night and might not ever be.
 

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At one point, near the end of the first half, the cameras cut to CGC - dude looked shellshocked. I know he has been an assistant for some big name P5 schools, including Tech under CGOL, but damn if he didn’t look like a scared kid in that shot.

Hats off to the players, especially Swilling, TO, Watson, and Graham. All played hard and had some nice plays. The biggest issue last night was play calling on both sides of the ball. The defense should have been read the riot act after that first Lawrence touchdown and adjustments made to keep guys at home on those very obvious draw-motion plays. There’s no way a target that big should be able to lope about the field like that.

On offense ... öööö, I don’t even know where to begin. I’m not expecting flawless execution there, but I AM expecting to see the OC laying the foundation for the future of the program. We all agree this is a rebuilding year. As such, let’s get the future on the field, in real games, and give them the snaps they need to learn and develop. I don’t mind falling flat on our faces if we are doing that, but I do mind watching a new coaching staff essentially try to do what the old coaching staff was doing, only much less efficiently and really ugly.
 

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Going back and looking at the play, it looked like TO had the pylon if he'd just keep rolling out. Obviously had his eyes elsewhere but had we punched that in I think we'd feel better about the offense as a whole.
Agree. TO most certainly could have run the ball in himself if he wasn't so timid.
 

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I think our fans still thinking in their heads, “oh this is just ol Clemson.. we should be competitive!”

It ain’t like that anymore folks.. at this point Alabama would be an easier opponent than them.
 

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I don’t see a problem calling out CDP a bit because as others have pointed out, he needs to do better. Our game plan did not give me the impression that he was ready for this. The two 4th down situations make that pretty clear to me.
Clearly Patenaude is not ready for the cream of the crop of P5 competition. Maybe he'll get OJT and improve. Last night was not a good debut for a whole bunch of people.
 

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Going back and looking at the play, it looked like TO had the pylon if he'd just keep rolling out. Obviously had his eyes elsewhere but had we punched that in I think we'd feel better about the offense as a whole.
The rollout was a good call. TO needed to float the ball to the back corner instead of zipping it past a defender.

The three trick plays were bad calls and an even worse use of practice time.
 

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don't forget we scored on 3rd down but it didn't count for some reason
 

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I came into the game wanting to see two things. Cohesion on offense and intensity on defense. I saw one of those things but it’s clear that we lack of a true leader at QB and until we get that we will continue to sputter. I actually liked a lot of what I saw on defense. It’s really too bad about the turnovers. I wouldve liked to see how we hung with Clemson with a more competitive score
 

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What we saw last night was pretty much what Patenaude ran successfully at Coastal Carolina against FCS competition. It will not work against P5 defenders, and especially not against Clemson. I'd be really disappointed if he thought it would. I'm going to assume that he felt pressure to keep the shotgun in place to satisfy the fans, knowing we were going to lose anyway. If he doesn't figure out that it won't work by next week, it could be a long season. Let's hope that there is more to the story, or that CGC will shake up the offensive strategy to make better use of our athletes.
 

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What we saw last night was pretty much what Patenaude ran successfully at Coastal Carolina against FCS competition. It will not work against P5 defenders, and especially not against Clemson. I'd be really disappointed if he thought it would. I'm going to assume that he felt pressure to keep the shotgun in place to satisfy the fans, knowing we were going to lose anyway. If he doesn't figure out that it won't work by next week, it could be a long season. Let's hope that there is more to the story, or that CGC will shake up the offensive strategy to make better use of our athletes.
That offense will work against less stout teams. The question is how much worse the opposing D has to be.
 

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some coaches may have looked at the roster and implemented new schemes but keeping older situational ones that their personnel is built for.. then over time, they phase out the old as their personnel changes.. those coaches probably win more games in their first year.. but apparently not scoring from the 1 yard line in the shotgun formation is more attractive than scoring with a non NFL scheme..
Fantastic job on missing the forest for the trees.
"Sometimes you have to break a few eggs to make a cake" is applicable here. Yeah, I thought the play calling inside the 1 was dumb but let's not act like CPJ didn't load up and smash it into the line 4 times unsuccessfully at times as well.

The majority of the issues we're facing right now is personnel related and we're already finding out how much that was affecting recruiting.
 

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At one point, near the end of the first half, the cameras cut to CGC - dude looked shellshocked. I know he has been an assistant for some big name P5 schools, including Tech under CGOL, but damn if he didn’t look like a scared kid in that shot.

Hats off to the players, especially Swilling, TO, Watson, and Graham. All played hard and had some nice plays. The biggest issue last night was play calling on both sides of the ball. The defense should have been read the riot act after that first Lawrence touchdown and adjustments made to keep guys at home on those very obvious draw-motion plays. There’s no way a target that big should be able to lope about the field like that.

On offense ... öööö, I don’t even know where to begin. I’m not expecting flawless execution there, but I AM expecting to see the OC laying the foundation for the future of the program. We all agree this is a rebuilding year. As such, let’s get the future on the field, in real games, and give them the snaps they need to learn and develop. I don’t mind falling flat on our faces if we are doing that, but I do mind watching a new coaching staff essentially try to do what the old coaching staff was doing, only much less efficiently and really ugly.
I disagree on the highlighted sentence. The biggest issue last night was the apparent talent disparity at every single position on the field. And let's not forget who recruited almost all of those players.
 

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I disagree on the highlighted sentence. The biggest issue last night was the apparent talent disparity at every single position on the field. And let's not forget who recruited almost all of those players.
That’s a “known variable” - I don’t think anyone was operating under the delusion that we would suddenly have talent on-par with the #1 team in the nation after 9 months of “juice”. I certainly wasn’t expecting to see our talent suddenly rocket to Clemson/Bama levels.
 

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Clearly Patenaude is not ready for the cream of the crop of P5 competition. Maybe he'll get OJT and improve. Last night was not a good debut for a whole bunch of people.
Patenaude will do fine once he gets his players. The roster isn't exactly stacked with 5-6 1st and 2nd round NFL draft picks.
 

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We couldn’t score sht just 9 months ago vs ööööing Minnesota

Idk what guys expect? A world beater offense? Vs #1???
Foundation laid for the future. Change. Improvement from the QB position to deliver the ball through the air. Improvement from the WRs to get open and create separation. Schematic changes and concepts which at least try to get us live fire "practice" using those. There was not evidence of any of that before JG came in...because reasons. We basically wasted an entire half of the debut of the "new look" Jackets. It made no ööööing sense what we tried to do with TO. No ööööing sense.

While the final stats and outcome look horrifying for the D, it was obvious things are changing on that side. Schematically, we're light years ahead. Tackling was vastly improved. We had hats flying to and around the football. Clemson is just too much for us. We're going to be just fine on defense.
 
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