Major Donors on Geoff Collins!

GTFLETCH said:
Actually I liked the George Oleary years a little better, and I thought that PJ was a horrible hire after Chan....I latter ate my words.... However I am glad the TO is gone, but I think if we have learned anything from 1995 to 2018, we should never settle for less than .500 in ACC play and .500 in OOC, which would put us at 6 wins and a Bowl game... IMHO that should be the bare minimum... Anythig less should be unacceptable. I do think that Coach Collins sold the fan base a bill of goods and when you look at his Coaching record (Temple & GT) he is not a very good HC. I think the issue is who do we get to replace him? We do not want a TO coach, so who do we bring in? I am not so sure.... One thing is for sure Coach Collins is not putting Georgia Tech back in the National Conversation any time soon, like he promised back at his Intro Press Conf.... Hell he might never make a bowl and the program might be set back years...I am worried!
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CGC is young, something neither O'Leary, Chan nor PJ was when we hired them. With PJ at the helm, our best years were behind us. 2014 was an anomaly (and even it had bad losses and couldn't win the ACC). Given his distaste for recruiting and the TO's newness being long gone, 6 wins and a Bowl game were our ceiling until CGC got here and turned PJ's laziness about recruiting onto its ear.

I've got raised eyebrows with CGC as a literal sidelines gameday coach too but he's not going anywhere soon and I'm optimistic he'll improve in those areas where his lack of experience shows. If/when that happens, it appears we'll have solid talent on the team to maximize the coaching. Already, we've seen huge improvements in penalties (far fewer dumb ones this year) and kicking in general.

As bad as the Northern Illinois loss was and continues to be, we're hardly the only P5 team suddenly losing to FCS squads. It sucks but there seem to be fewer cupcakes these days.
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
As bad as the Northern Illinois loss was and continues to be, we're hardly the only P5 team suddenly losing to FCS squads. It sucks but there seem to be fewer cupcakes these days.
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The NIU game was a total abortion. But it wasn't an FCS loss. NIU is a member of the MAC and is currently top of the conference at 3-0, their two losses coming out of conference against Michigan and Wyoming.
 
THWUGA said:
The NIU game was a total abortion. But it wasn't an FCS loss. NIU is a member of the MAC and is currently top of the conference at 3-0, their two losses coming out of conference against Michigan and Wyoming.
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outside of us GT fans, I guarantee you few people even noticed. Unlike, say, Montana upsetting #13 Washington to open their season....or JAX State beating FSU on that last play that millions saw on ESPN.
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
outside of us GT fans, I guarantee you few people even noticed. Unlike, say, Montana upsetting #13 Washington to open their season....or JAX State beating FSU on that last play that millions saw on ESPN.
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In a year where the team and staff need to start showing that we’re turning a corner and moving toward success, coming out and laying an egg at home against a directional school nobody can find on a map (and getting called out on TV by the other team’s coach) is absolutely as unacceptable as an FCS loss or another historic blowout.

It destroyed any remaining goodwill I had for the staff, and they’ll have to win that back from me. More like UNC will help, more like Pitt will just continue to dig their own graves.

JRjr
 
vapspwi said:
In a year where the team and staff need to start showing that we’re turning a corner and moving toward success, coming out and laying an egg at home against a directional school nobody can find on a map (and getting called out on TV by the other team’s coach) is absolutely as unacceptable as an FCS loss or another historic blowout.

It destroyed any remaining goodwill I had for the staff, and they’ll have to win that back from me. More like UNC will help, more like Pitt will just continue to dig their own graves.

JRjr
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Well said. I also remember our loss to The Citadel. :faint:
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
CGC is young, something neither O'Leary, Chan nor PJ was when we hired them. With PJ at the helm, our best years were behind us. 2014 was an anomaly (and even it had bad losses and couldn't win the ACC). Given his distaste for recruiting and the TO's newness being long gone, 6 wins and a Bowl game were our ceiling until CGC got here and turned PJ's laziness about recruiting onto its ear.

I've got raised eyebrows with CGC as a literal sidelines gameday coach too but he's not going anywhere soon and I'm optimistic he'll improve in those areas where his lack of experience shows. If/when that happens, it appears we'll have solid talent on the team to maximize the coaching. Already, we've seen huge improvements in penalties (far fewer dumb ones this year) and kicking in general.

As bad as the Northern Illinois loss was and continues to be, we're hardly the only P5 team suddenly losing to FCS squads. It sucks but there seem to be fewer cupcakes these days.
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CGC is currently 50. George O'leary was 48 or 49 when he became our Head Coach. Chan Gailey was either 50-51 ish. CPJ was I think 51.
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
CGC is young, something neither O'Leary, Chan nor PJ was when we hired them. With PJ at the helm, our best years were behind us. 2014 was an anomaly (and even it had bad losses and couldn't win the ACC). Given his distaste for recruiting and the TO's newness being long gone, 6 wins and a Bowl game were our ceiling until CGC got here and turned PJ's laziness about recruiting onto its ear.

I've got raised eyebrows with CGC as a literal sidelines gameday coach too but he's not going anywhere soon and I'm optimistic he'll improve in those areas where his lack of experience shows. If/when that happens, it appears we'll have solid talent on the team to maximize the coaching. Already, we've seen huge improvements in penalties (far fewer dumb ones this year) and kicking in general.

As bad as the Northern Illinois loss was and continues to be, we're hardly the only P5 team suddenly losing to FCS squads. It sucks but there seem to be fewer cupcakes these days.
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2014 was a fun "anomaly". Id take winning the Orange Bowl and beating a Dak Prescott Miss St team into the ground in a second right now. I guess 1990 was anomaly too if you look at years prior and after. Do we want to be a steady .600 team or win something meaningful once in a while. We are neither right now. Hopefully, that will come. As a Tech fan since 1977, I have learned the value of patience and appreciation of the good times. I don't care if we run the spread option (triple option is still a play, not a formation), the pistol, the Notre Dame box, the Wing-T, or run all out of shotgun. Just win some games.
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
CGC is young, something neither O'Leary, Chan nor PJ was when we hired them. With PJ at the helm, our best years were behind us. 2014 was an anomaly (and even it had bad losses and couldn't win the ACC). Given his distaste for recruiting and the TO's newness being long gone, 6 wins and a Bowl game were our ceiling until CGC got here and turned PJ's laziness about recruiting onto its ear.

I've got raised eyebrows with CGC as a literal sidelines gameday coach too but he's not going anywhere soon and I'm optimistic he'll improve in those areas where his lack of experience shows. If/when that happens, it appears we'll have solid talent on the team to maximize the coaching. Already, we've seen huge improvements in penalties (far fewer dumb ones this year) and kicking in general.

As bad as the Northern Illinois loss was and continues to be, we're hardly the only P5 team suddenly losing to FCS squads. It sucks but there seem to be fewer cupcakes these days.
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NIU isn't FCS, are they?
 
ToHellwithUGA said:
2014 was a fun "anomaly". Id take winning the Orange Bowl and beating a Dak Prescott Miss St team into the ground in a second right now. I guess 1990 was anomaly too if you look at years prior and after. Do we want to be a steady .600 team or win something meaningful once in a while. We are neither right now. Hopefully, that will come. As a Tech fan since 1977, I have learned the value of patience and appreciation of the good times. I don't care if we run the spread option (triple option is still a play, not a formation), the pistol, the Notre Dame box, the Wing-T, or run all out of shotgun. Just win some games.
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Problem is, you aren't going to get a player like Gibbs to come play in a wing T.
 
JJacket said:
Problem is, you aren't going to get a player like Gibbs to come play in a wing T.
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Like I said, I don't care what we run. Just win. In the future, you are also not going to get a kid like Gibbs to come play for a 3 win team. BTW, even NFL teams run a jet sweep once in a while. There are formations and personnel groupings and then, there are plays. Neither are mutually exclusive. CPJ was stubborn in his ability to go away from what he knew do his detriment. Our current staff and some of our fans are just as stubborn in their determination to disassociate with anything that might work because they think it might undermine the culture or the Top 10 recruiting and national championship dreams that we may have and also undermine the ability to pass the blame for current failures to the past regimes.
 
ToHellwithUGA said:
2014 was a fun "anomaly". Id take winning the Orange Bowl and beating a Dak Prescott Miss St team into the ground in a second right now. I guess 1990 was anomaly too if you look at years prior and after. Do we want to be a steady .600 team or win something meaningful once in a while. We are neither right now. Hopefully, that will come. As a Tech fan since 1977, I have learned the value of patience and appreciation of the good times. I don't care if we run the spread option (triple option is still a play, not a formation), the pistol, the Notre Dame box, the Wing-T, or run all out of shotgun. Just win some games.
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Right now feels alot more like 1988 than 2017-18 did. People forget how bad we were in year 2 of Ross. (2020 is a non-year in my book). But we were building something then. Hopefully we are now - we haven't been for awhile, agreed.
 
Would I be surprised if Tech lost the rest of their games? No.
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RamblinWreck92 said:
Right now feels alot more like 1988 than 2017-18 did. People forget how bad we were in year 2 of Ross. (2020 is a non-year in my book). But we were building something then. Hopefully we are now - we haven't been for awhile, agreed.
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I have not forgotten. Ross took over a team that went 5-5-1 with tie being to FURMAN. Collins took over a 7-6 team that finished second in the coastal. We all have problems. But I am hopeful.
 
I'm not upset, I'm wondering if Tech can win 5, but I want at least 6 and a bowl game. IMO the next 2 games will shed light on where this team is. These are extremely important games and we need to win both!
 
yellowbritchies said:
I'm not upset, I'm wondering if Tech can win 5, but I want at least 6 and a bowl game. IMO the next 2 games will shed light on where this team is. These are extremely important games and we need to win both!
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I’ll take 5 wins and a bowl. Just get me that extra practice and a game for n December.
 
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