Other Schools' Coaching Changes [Now with Colorado's Deion]

I’m sure I’m in the minority on this, but I’m not sold on the Deion idea. I’ll support him if hired just like I supported Gef when he was hired, but the thought of another Twitter handle coach turns my stomach. That is exactly all of the stuff that I want to get away from with Collins and get back to playing football.
 
savbandjacket said:
I’m sure I’m in the minority on this, but I’m not sold on the Deion idea. I’ll support him if hired just like I supported Gef when he was hired, but the thought of another Twitter handle coach turns my stomach. That is exactly all of the stuff that I want to get away from with Collins and get back to playing football.
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Sure--he's a (bad pun incoming) juiced up version of Goof. Add some top flight coordinators around him and he could be successful (just like Goof could have been). Let's hope the so called money men have learned that whomever the new coach is, you can't go cheap on the staff.
 
BranMart said:
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It's funny, I think cgc was that small time juice dealer that got us a little hooked, but that juice was weak and no longer does it for us, so we need to find the big prime time dealer that has the strongest juice.
 
savbandjacket said:
I’m sure I’m in the minority on this, but I’m not sold on the Deion idea. I’ll support him if hired just like I supported Gef when he was hired, but the thought of another Twitter handle coach turns my stomach. That is exactly all of the stuff that I want to get away from with Collins and get back to playing football.
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I agree with this but I also think the amount of time Deion spent playing the game in college and the NFL, he knows what is needed and what it takes to be successful. There are other potential candidates I like also, but the things that stick out to me about Deion are these:
  • He would possibly settle for a much lower salary than most initially if it would allow him more money to hire coordinators/assistants, and make up for it on the back end or with built-in goal-based incentives
  • Recruiting would likely get better, and at minimum wouldnt get worse
  • He immediatelty connects with Atlanta and would ignite the fanbase, likely bringing in more sidewalk fans and NIL opportunities
  • He would put GT in the spotlight and probably make us look more favorable to bigger conferences for expansion (theres another money solution right there...)
  • Small sample size but so far he's proven to be a winner as HC. Took a JSU team averaging 3-4 wins for the previous 5 or so seasons and went 4-3 in the short covid spring season, 11-2 last year with conference championship, and is currently 3-0 with two blowout wins.
I'm just afraid big money donors are going to be scared to hire another "hype man" style personality, so it probably won't happen. When he eventually gets a P5 job though, I fully expect we'll all be kicking ourselves for not going after him when we could.
 
savbandjacket said:
I’m sure I’m in the minority on this, but I’m not sold on the Deion idea. I’ll support him if hired just like I supported Gef when he was hired, but the thought of another Twitter handle coach turns my stomach. That is exactly all of the stuff that I want to get away from with Collins and get back to playing football.
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Well here's the type of thing he's tweeting. Not so bad, is it?

 
coit said:
Well here's the type of thing he's tweeting. Not so bad, is it?

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I like it. Most of the kids on the team and their Mommas will like it.

GT proper will hate it with all their woke hearts.
 
coit said:
Well here's the type of thing he's tweeting. Not so bad, is it?

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No, it’s not. And I’m not anti-Deion. I’m just not all the way on board with it either. It’s one of the highest risk options out there. Potentially high reward, but it’s definitely high risk.
 
savbandjacket said:
No, it’s not. And I’m not anti-Deion. I’m just not all the way on board with it either. It’s one of the highest risk options out there. Potentially high reward, but it’s definitely high risk.
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Any coach that we are able to hire with where we are as a program is going to be high risk.

No proven coach will want to come here. So we will be looking at coaches who were either fired from a previous job and looking for some rehabilition, a coordinator looking to make the leap to head coach, or a lower level up and comer with not P5 experience.

There are going to be a lot of teams in a better position than us looking for coaches. Nebraska and Arizona State are already in the market and a better destination for a coach than GT. Auburn, Stanford, and Louisville are probably going to be on the search in the off season as well.

Deion may be high risk but he may be the lowest risk of what we are capable of getting because of his ties to Atlanta and his ability to recruit.
 
G776T said:
That doesn't make any sense, he'd be our first AA head coach
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That would be true, but he certainly wouldn't be allowed to mention The Lord unless GT loses their current "woke" mindset. The "educators" would lose their öööö.
 
I just don't see Deion bolting from Jackson State yet. He seems committed growing the HBCU brand as a whole for a while. If anyone is leaving JSU for a head coaching job, I think it might be Dennis Thurman.
 
clapper said:
I just don't see Deion bolting from Jackson State yet. He seems committed growing the HBCU brand as a whole for a while. If anyone is leaving JSU for a head coaching job, I think it might be Dennis Thurman.
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I was kinda thinking the same way. He probably is pretty well established financially, and his current role probably gives him a lot of satisfaction and he likely isn't putting in the hours he would have to at a P5 school.
 
savbandjacket said:
No, it’s not. And I’m not anti-Deion. I’m just not all the way on board with it either. It’s one of the highest risk options out there. Potentially high reward, but it’s definitely high risk.
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Higher reward than risk imo
 
coit said:
I was kinda thinking the same way. He probably is pretty well established financially, and his current role probably gives him a lot of satisfaction and he likely isn't putting in the hours he would have to at a P5 school.
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On the other side of the equation, you can drink water out of the tap here. :dunno:
 
clapper said:
I just don't see Deion bolting from Jackson State yet. He seems committed growing the HBCU brand as a whole for a while. If anyone is leaving JSU for a head coaching job, I think it might be Dennis Thurman.
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If that were the case he could shutdown all rumors and just come out and say that. Im sure it would help his recruiting if he did.
 
Deion and Geoff do not have similar styles at all imo.. Deion is not trying to be the players friends.. he has actual son(s) on the team and knows you have to have discipline for football and for life.. Ge0ff is trying to be everyones friend out there and throws discipline out of the window..
 
atlanta jacket said:
Taking Deon would be swapping The Clown for the Greatest show clown ever. Please dont go down that route.
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Definitely high risk. We'd be quadrupling down on the direction we went with the Geff hire (except Deion is simply better at all the marketing aspects Geff was attempting to enact.) Deion is probably a better actual coach, too. (How much worse could he be?) Deion has obvious synergies with the Atlanta market. I could see the appeal of not jerking the program in diametrically opposed directions for two hires in a row.

I could also see the appeal of prioritizing demonstrated basic coaching competence. That has certainly been lacking and is a basic requirement for a successful football team. This is the lower risk, lower ceiling approach, since that's obviously what any other school with an opening will be looking for. We'll be competing with all other major schools for this type of candidate.

With the seismic shifts in college football recently, I think I'm for pushing all in on the high risk play. We're in danger of becoming permanently irrelevant in college football, I'd rather have a puncher's chance of staying relevant.
 
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