This is PATHETIC... Look at KSU's roster

BarrelORum said:
I guess KSU can't recruit them outright because who the ---- wants to play in Kansas, so they get them after they are a stop elsewhere and screwed up.
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Like Krazie said in the 2nd post of the thread, this isn't new. Recruiting JCs and scheduling pansy OOC games has been Bill Snyder's MO for 20 years.
 
05GTCorndog said:
Like Krazie said in the 2nd post of the thread, this isn't new. Recruiting JCs and scheduling pansy OOC games has been Bill Snyder's MO for 20 years.
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I knew he was bad, but Don't ever recall him doing it to this extent.
 
It's great for a few odd JUCO kids to truly bring up their grades and get back on track to a degree.

Much more likely though is that the kids couldn't meet the entrance requirement for SAT's and so they had to go the JUCO route instead. The min. SAT is something like 900, and so it says something about the quality of the education JUCO's are getting if 20+ kids with sub-900 SAT's could make nominal process towards a degree.
 
05GTCorndog said:
Like Krazie said in the 2nd post of the thread, this isn't new. Recruiting JCs and scheduling pansy OOC games has been Bill Snyder's MO for 20 years.
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KSU was supposed to play Oregon this year and Snyder got it canceled. Pretty smart fella. They might not avoid Oregon for too long though. :)
 
If I were a Kansas State fan I'd bookmark this thread and come back once they A. Go to the national title B. have a heisman trophy winner and C. Possibly win it all.

If you win, do your fans care about this on the larger scale?
 
K State ain't exactly GT. Who's to say their players aren't a close resemblance to the student body? Our team may have the highest avg SAT score in the nation, but does it come close to representing the student body?

Isn't saying how far one school's team is from representing it's student body than another kind of silly when most players at EVERY school would probably not make it in as a regular student anyway?
 
All perfectly legal and completely ethical. What are these "troubled" kids expected to do otherwise? Be janitors? At least with some college degree they can be better off than without one.

Besides, Bill Snyder is a dang good coach. He is staying within the rules and winning big. Coaching is not just about points scored. A coach is expected to do as much as possible to win.

Lotsa ivory tower residents here IMHO.
 
goodbyte said:
All perfectly legal and completely ethical. What are these "troubled" kids expected to do otherwise? Be janitors? At least with some college degree they can be better off than without one.

Besides, Bill Snyder is a dang good coach. He is staying within the rules and winning big. Coaching is not just about points scored. A coach is expected to do as much as possible to win.

Lotsa ivory tower residents here IMHO.
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Not so much. Just frustration in trying to be "MIT M - F and FSU on Saturday" when others are fine with being east bumble CC M - F and FSU on Saturday.
 
dressedcheeseside said:
Not so much. Just frustration in trying to be "MIT M - F and FSU on Saturday" when others are fine with being east bumble CC M - F and FSU on Saturday.
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Meanwhile others are Michigan, Texas, Notre Dame, Stanford, Florida, USC 24/7 and doing fine either way.

Bud Peterson went to "East Bumble CC" (Kansas State) and was a wide receiver for 4 years. Look where he is now.

Deal with it.

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I would like to see in the NCAA rule book where it says taking JC transfers is cheating.

Shouldn't someone here turn them in, in the name of sportsmanship?
 
texstinger said:
I would like to see in the NCAA rule book where it says taking JC transfers is cheating.
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My opinion is it only cheating when you create separate classes/majors/programs mainly for athletes where they are held to far different standards than the rest of the student body. If athletes are in a major that is say 75% "regular" students, that seems OK to me. So accepting as many JuCo's as you want is cool as long as they are in real degree programs and not crooked ones.
 
goodbyte said:
Meanwhile others are Michigan, Texas, Notre Dame, Stanford, Florida, USC 24/7 and doing fine either way.

Bud Peterson went to "East Bumble CC" (Kansas State) and was a wide receiver for 4 years. Look where he is now.

Deal with it.

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The implication that the programs like Texas, Florida, and USC (Stanford and ND withheld as their recent success hasn't been sustained yet) are "doing things the right way" is laughable. Almost as laughable as using Bud Peterson in a argument about academics...
 
Look at the programs they teach up there. Heck it was a Junior College itself for many years. Nothing but a wide place in the road just north of Marietta.
 
It's the bill Snyder way. Can't convince boys to come to manhattan Kansas? NBD, Convince men.
 
gtzulu said:
My opinion is it only cheating when you create separate classes/majors/programs mainly for athletes where they are held to far different standards than the rest of the student body.
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This is what 50% of our fanbase wants do at GT. We've had a gazillion threads on it.

If athletes are in a major that is say 75% "regular" students, that seems OK to me.
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This is what ND does and gets lambasted by GT fans. They also make their SA's live in student dorms and room, live, eat and associate with regular students. What a crazy place.
 
What's funny is I heard Bud Peterson singing Coach Snyder's praises the other day.

LOL

I had no idea that KSU had 25 JUCO's so I seriously doubt Peterson did either.

We can't have hardly any transfers for a multitude of reasons, namely The Hill and transferrable credits. AJ Suggs told me when he transferred to Tech from Tennessee that he had 30 hours completed. He then asked me "wanna guess how many hours of credit were transferrable?" He said "three".


***edited to say Peterson may well be aware of this considering he played ball there many moons ago.
 
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