PJ... Extend or not to extend, that is the question!

Extend, Don't Extend, or Wait

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GaTech'06 said:
I completely agree with yellowbritchies and say wait until the end of the season. There is still a lot of ball to be played and things could go great or the grapes could turn sour really quick. Today we are middle of the pack in a struggling Coastal division. However, with that being said if somehow PJ manages to beat Clemson, UGA and win a "respectable" bowl game I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to a Paul Hewitt auto-renewing contract.
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I would say I'm among the biggest CPJ fans here. That said...

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BarrelORum said:
öööö this thread really brought the retards out in full force. You either renew his contract this year or you start looking at coaching options, but you don't wait til next year. Do some of you eve pay attention to how this öööö works? Bunch of ööööing idiots on this board.
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To extend, or not to extend: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The falls and fumbles of growing with a program,
Or to fire CPJ and gamble on an unknown,
And by opposing end perceived mediocrity?
To wait: to fire; No more; and by a firing
To say we end the heart-ache and the
Thousand mocking slurs that Tech is heir to,
'Tis a consummation Devoutly to be wish'd.
To wait, to fire; To fire: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that firing of CPJ what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off the consistent 7 or 8 win seasons,
Must give us pause: there's the respect
That makes calamity of so long a hire;
For who would bear the whips and scorns of a contract,
The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of despised dwag wins, the wtf losses,
The insolence of office banter and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might know a better coach awaits?
Who would fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat through underwhelming seasons,
But that the dread of greater losses,
More undiscover'd talent that goes unrecruited, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprises of great pith and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry,
And lose the name of action ...

but, yeah, I say, extend it
 
Well, Muschamp and Neuheisel are available if we want a 'do over'
 
BarrelORum said:
öööö this thread really brought the retards out in full force. You either renew his contract this year or you start looking at coaching options, but you don't wait til next year. Do some of you eve pay attention to how this öööö works? Bunch of ööööing idiots on this board.
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well you should have made the poll two options. This is what happens when people are given too much democracy. They vote for monkeys and goats.
 
No other path makes sense but extension. I don't see a magical elixir for a new coach to do better.
 
BarrelORum said:
öööö this thread really brought the retards out in full force. You either renew his contract this year or you start looking at coaching options, but you don't wait til next year. Do some of you eve pay attention to how this öööö works? Bunch of ööööing idiots on this board.
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Whats there to pay attention to? Any good coach either gets locked into a mammoth deal in his third year or he moves on to a mammoth deal at some "destination" school. So tell me, where will PJ leave that is greener pastures? My point is our situation is unique in that the school has all the leverage because nobody wants the triple option no matter how well he does here. Therefore its perfectly safe to wait until near the end of next season. It wont affect recruiting. Oh my god, we might get some negative recruiting oh my, you say? News flash, you cant make that any worse.
 
BOR,
We absolutely can wait to extend him. No one but the likes of smu will be knocking at the door. If he's willing to take that sort of move then so be it.

If the contract extension was coupled with a complete 0 dollars owed if we fired him then I'm all for it. Otherwise, he has things left to do. Beat Georgia and its an auto extension. Win the coastal this year, auto extension. Otherwise is he doing any better than chan right now? I think he's a better coach than chan but records are fairly similar from this year to the majority of Chan's years.
 
grantfield82 said:
From the preseason I said beat 2 of the big 4 and resign him, but that was with the assumption we didn't lose to 2 teams we've owned over the last decade.

In this poll I said wait. Due to the losses to unc and Duke, I would say we need to win 2 of the last 3 to sign a new deal, otherwise wait to extend until after next year. 8-4 is a meh campaign with the 3 OOC oppenents we had this year. 9 wins with beating 3 of the big 4 are needed to make up for Duke and Unc in my book. If you don't beat Georgia and don't win the coastal, you haven't done anything worth getting an extension, you just met expectations to keep coaching under the current contract.

Btw, before anyone says it: You can say it's not the same ole Duke, but VPI is just like normal Duke this year so it evens out.
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So coming into the year you would only have accepted a record of 10-2 to finish the year. Now youve adjusted to 9-3 and going 3-1 against the "vaunted big 4." Seems reasonable...

And VPI with maddy, Williams, Mckenzie, Wang 100%, and other injuries is not Duke of old. VPI was much better when we played them than they are now.

In your mind is the team no longer allowed to lose to non "Big 4" teams?
 
andrew said:
Extend him. He is the perfect coach for Georgia Tech under current NCAA rules.

We can win a national title under him. It's not likely, and things will have to line up correctly, but it's doable. This season has shown that to me.

We're never going to be Alabama, Auburn, or even U[sic]GA. We're just not willing to admit the type of students it takes to do that. We've also done pretty öööö good during his tenure compared to other schools. Hell, just look at UNC, which literally created a fake major and jeopardized their entire university to win at athletics. No one is trading our program for theirs over the last six years.

Success doesn't come easy when you don't want to compromise; we should keep the guy who brings us moderate success and a chance to excel.
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You can say the same about St Mark. That being said, I agree.
 
He did win 2 against the big four already, but I didn't expect the two losses to be Duke and UNC. He still had two big games to play to truly determine my answer.
 
Thankfully none of you retarts actually get to decide this.

I love the line of reasoning "before the season I'd love to have the record we do, but now that we have it I'm bumping up my expectations". Morans.
 
TampaBayJacket said:
Therefore its perfectly safe to wait until near the end of next season. It wont affect recruiting. Oh my god, we might get some negative recruiting oh my, you say? News flash, you cant make that any worse.
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That is an interesting thought, but I don't think I agree.

I've known a few kids that have gone through the recruiting process in the past decade, and I know that coaching security is high on the list of things they look for. One kid was borderline BCS level, and signed with Southern Miss. Then Fedora left to go to UNC. The new coach chose NOT to honor the offer that he had in hand.

Now in our case, if CPJ were to leave, then we could only hope that the replacement would be someone that might be more interesting to potential recruits, not less.

But I also like BOR's thought that we have more leverage now than we might if we end up with a 10 win season. Our negotiating position from now through to the end of the year is not likely to get any better than it is, but it could get a lot worse, dollar-wise.
 
I'd go ahead and extend him two years now in exchange for a smaller buyout.

If we choke down the stretch and 2015 is as bad as it looks like it's gonna be with a brutal schedule you fire him after that season.
 
I think we should extend him before the UGA game if we win one of the next two and are competitive in our potential losing effort. A higher salary with lower buyout is my preference but the GTAA hasn't called to ask my opinion as of yet. To kill two birds with one stone I do believe we could come to terms CPJ would agree to. At 57 he could be with us for the duration of his coaching career.
 
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