Jordan Yates

Forget RSs play the guy that can run the playbook the best that gives us the chance to get better each week

If we're recrootin like I want us to RSs won't be a factor

TALENT will be the only factor
 
NotTomNotPhilButGCollins said:
I've got a different take

Playing Oliver in a run heavy version of our O hurts GT FB in the future, next season

Since it is unlikely that a TFr or Portal guy will start at QB in 20, these Reps & these games need to mean something

Playing Oliver in a run heavy scheme just to go 6-6 and earn a low tier Bowl will hurt us next season because Oliver & our other QBs will not have gotten better at what we hope to be doing next season

If we're gonna lose, let's lose by doing something that will pay dividends in 20

QB keepers to beat Citadel won't be of any value come 2020

Kinda amazing that after 9 months in this new system our QBs can't dink & dunk until we get to the RZ and then run the ball to score TDs to beat lesser teams

CFB rules make it impossible to stop dink & dunk passes, yet the QBs we have leftover from CPJ can't even do that
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What do you mean hurts it in the future? Recruiting? Skills development?

And how will getting sacked and throwing it out of bounds to avoid a sack or scrambling out of the pocket help GT FB in the future?
 
coit said:
What do you mean hurts it in the future? Recruiting? Skills development?

And how will getting sacked and throwing it out of bounds to avoid a sack or scrambling out of the pocket help GT FB in the future?
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At some point our QBs are gonna have to get used to playing QB in the pocket and making decisions as a pass first QB

Tons of QB keepers this season won't make our QBs better decision makers in 2020

Instead of running a hybrid Offense to eke out wins to go to a low tier Bowl game, run our offense that will develop our QBs for 2020
 
NotTomNotPhilButGCollins said:
At some point our QBs are gonna have to get used to playing QB in the pocket and making decisions as a pass first QB

Tons of QB keepers this season won't make our QBs better decision makers in 2020

Instead of running a hybrid Offense to eke out wins to go to a low tier Bowl game, run our offense that will develop our QBs for 2020
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If we had any sort of workable OL I’d agree with you.
 
I want to see Yates in four games at least but we absolutely should have tried to eke out a win against The Citadel
 
NotTomNotPhilButGCollins said:
At some point our QBs are gonna have to get used to playing QB in the pocket and making decisions as a pass first QB

Tons of QB keepers this season won't make our QBs better decision makers in 2020

Instead of running a hybrid Offense to eke out wins to go to a low tier Bowl game, run our offense that will develop our QBs for 2020
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You play the players that give you the best chance to win. Period. If our best QB is a runner, then you run the ball. Add as many pass concepts as you can, but you run the ball if that's what works. If your personnel is better at passing, then you throw the ball.

This is what Collins and Patenaude said they were going to do - scheme around the players they have.
 
gtchief said:
I want to see Yates in four games at least but we absolutely should have tried to eke out a win against The Citadel
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Citadel's DL played our OL to a draw maybe even outplayed our OL

I know CDP has caught a ton of flak, but how do you scheme around an injured and horrible OLine?

My theory is to dink & dunk between the 20s and in the RZ run Mason and or QB keepers to score TDs
 
johncu said:
You play the players that give you the best chance to win. Period. If our best QB is a runner, then you run the ball. Add as many pass concepts as you can, but you run the ball if that's what works. If your personnel is better at passing, then you throw the ball.

This is what Collins and Patenaude said they were going to do - scheme around the players they have.
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Then when next season rolls around we'll be back to ground zero

Doing what you suggest above only delays the rebuild so that we can compete for a lower tier Bowl game

I'd rather suffer now and prosper later than to extend the suffering into future seasons

Getting better at QB keepers won't help us in 2020
 
This topic is a good avenue for the Ajc to skewer yet another Georgia Tech football coach.
 
BigDanT said:
What if playing time this year meant game experience that made the differnce between 7&5 and 8&4 next year?
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Please let CGC borrow your crystal ball.

The straight up odds going in say he’s not going to be effective this year, but the coaches ultimately see him play. If you don’t see him beyond four games, he’s not ready and the amount of learning he would gain is not worth the lost year. Sheesh. You guys need to let it go on Yates this year. It’s not happening unless people get hurt.
 
NotTomNotPhilButGCollins said:
Then when next season rolls around we'll be back to ground zero

Doing what you suggest above only delays the rebuild so that we can compete for a lower tier Bowl game

I'd rather suffer now and prosper later than to extend the suffering into future seasons

Getting better at QB keepers won't help us in 2020
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What an incredibly stupid hot take
 
gtGreg768b said:
What an incredibly stupid hot take
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Explain why?

At some point in the near future QB keepers won't be a big part of our Offense

Shouldn't we be using these Reps during this Mulligan year to develop our QBs for 2020 and beyond

Suppose one of the current 3 QBs is our starter in 20 & 21, do you want that guy to get meaningful Reps this season or do want that guy to have a bunch of Reps running QB keepers
 
NotTomNotPhilButGCollins said:
Explain why?

At some point in the near future QB keepers won't be a big part of our Offense

Shouldn't we be using these Reps during this Mulligan year to develop our QBs for 2020 and beyond

Suppose one of the current 3 QBs is our starter in 20 & 21, do you want that guy to get meaningful Reps this season or do want that guy to have a bunch of Reps running QB keepers
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It's stupid because first of all you are throwing this year away. Secondly, you are assuming that QB keepers won't be a big part of our offense in the future (our coach and OC have both said that we are moving to a "pro style" offense but have repeatedly mentioned read option concepts). Thirdly, you are assuming that these reps of trying to execute the slow developing long bombs that you apparently want to see behind a poor/injured offensive line will somehow be more beneficial to our team than the morale killer of throwing in the towel this year, and abandoning our most proven offensive weapon, which is the run. You are saying that we should cut our nose off to spite our face. The drivel you have been posting about "ripping off the option band aid" is based on a bunch of assumptions that may set the program back rather than set us up for success next year.

I think we have a better chance of teaching Tobias Oliver (who has shown he can avoid sacks and make plays with his legs) how to better roll out and pass than we have of giving our other quarterbacks sufficient time to execute a more complex passing scheme. You are saying that three and outs and sacks during games would be better for our offensive future than trying to coach up and improve the passing of a quarterback who is very talented in other parts of his game. I disagree. If our coaches are thinking like you, they need to be thrown out on their asses now.
 
NotTomNotPhilButGCollins said:
Explain why?

At some point in the near future QB keepers won't be a big part of our Offense

Shouldn't we be using these Reps during this Mulligan year to develop our QBs for 2020 and beyond

Suppose one of the current 3 QBs is our starter in 20 & 21, do you want that guy to get meaningful Reps this season or do want that guy to have a bunch of Reps running QB keepers
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There are some of us who’d like to win some this year too.
 
There is also the possibility Yates will offer nothing over our current QBs at this point.
 
GTRules said:
There are some of us who’d like to win some this year too.
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The majority of GT Fans didn't want to win this year

I know this because most understood & agreed with the 7 yr contract and most were very much anti "processing"

If we as GT Fans wanted to win this year we'd have wanted the standard 5- yr deal and then told the Staff to process until your heart's content

This is big boy CFB teams that are serious about winning process the underperformers

Urban Meyer said he didn't invest any time in the bottom 10% of his roster, time is too valuable to waste on non-producers

The question is did you want to win badly enough to agree with processing those that don't fit the new system, each GT Fan has to do some soul searching and ask themselves how badly do they want our Athl Dept to win in all Sports

I believe in processing, I think it is a necessary evil in this modern version of CFB
 
gtGreg768b said:
It's stupid because first of all you are throwing this year away. Secondly, you are assuming that QB keepers won't be a big part of our offense in the future (our coach and OC have both said that we are moving to a "pro style" offense but have repeatedly mentioned read option concepts). Thirdly, you are assuming that these reps of trying to execute the slow developing long bombs that you apparently want to see behind a poor/injured offensive line will somehow be more beneficial to our team than the morale killer of throwing in the towel this year, and abandoning our most proven offensive weapon, which is the run. You are saying that we should cut our nose off to spite our face. The drivel you have been posting about "ripping off the option band aid" is based on a bunch of assumptions that may set the program back rather than set us up for success next year.

I think we have a better chance of teaching Tobias Oliver (who has shown he can avoid sacks and make plays with his legs) how to better roll out and pass than we have of giving our other quarterbacks sufficient time to execute a more complex passing scheme. You are saying that three and outs and sacks during games would be better for our offensive future than trying to coach up and improve the passing of a quarterback who is very talented in other parts of his game. I disagree. If our coaches are thinking like you, they need to be thrown out on their asses now.
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With James Graham, Yates, and the Gleason kid from FLA coming in, TO isn't the future of our program.
I think he should've finished vs the Citadel but would rather see Graham out there. The scheme we're moving towards needs to NOT be another goddamned QB Keeper scheme. We've had enough of that crap.
 
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