Apparently GT is NOT one of the hardest jobs in football

BrentwoodJacket said:
How is Texas hard? They have tradition, a huge fan base, minimal academic requirements and unlimited funds.
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- Unrealistic expectations
- Lack of institutional control around you
- Cant find time to coach in between your blowing boosters to keep them happy
 
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Collins being poised to land his second top 30 class in 3 years despite not winning more than. 3 games in a year suggests to me that maybe the Tech job isn’t as hard as we like to think it is.
 
knoxjacket said:
Collins being poised to land his second top 30 class in 3 years despite not winning more than. 3 games in a year suggests to me that maybe the Tech job isn’t as hard as we like to think it is.
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Lol. The current coach pulling something off that has never been pulled off at Tech probably means it’s not an easy thing to do. At a minimum he deserves a ton of credit for improving our recruiting. Everyone, even the CGC homers, would agree there’s room for improvement on the actual in-game coaching side.
 
GoldZ said:
Which is why we should consider keeping him and pumping major bucks into OC & DC coaches (even if it means continuing to pay him less than avg.). Remember, it's his dream job.
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No need to adjust his salary yet. If we need new staff after this year, we do it then. CGC is no fool. He knows if he does well, we will either have the cash to up his salary or he will land a good SEC job.

Regardless, he has already paid dividends in proving you can recruit in the top third of the conference at Tech.
 
LaFlavor said:
Per a poll taken by The Athletic.

Not even in the top 60 according to a poll of "60 people working in college football."

Eh, it's probably a stupid poll.
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What kind of dumbass starts a thread with a link to an article behind a paywall?

What kind of dumbass cites The Athletic as evidence of anything?
 
JJacket said:
Nope. We were more talented and going to get even more talented with Renfree at QB.
Without Chan, there is no Demaryous, Dwyer, Morgan, Johnson, Burnett, Nesbitt.....
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We were better than we ever would have been with Renfree. Look at his Duke career stats again, not exactly eye-popping and Nesbitt was 5x the player.
 
1982Jacket said:
What kind of dumbass starts a thread with a link to an article behind a paywall?

What kind of dumbass cites The Athletic as evidence of anything?
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I'm sorry you're too poor for the athletic. It's a small percentage of 80k, but you have to make your own choices.

I mostly started the thread because I was surprised we weren't even mentioned. GT seems like an incredibly difficult job from where I sit.

But go on with your righteous indignation, I'm sure that endorphin rush hits just right
 
Clearly folks outside of Atlanta have seen GT go to 20 some straight bowls between the O'Leary, Gailey, Johnson years.... I agree GT propbably isn't the hardest job in America..... Now if the Question said to turn the team into a 9 & 10 win team every season...GT is very hard... getting to 6 or 7 wins and a bowl....wasn't hard until we hired Coach Collins.... Then it became extermely hard!
 
GTFLETCH said:
Clearly folks outside of Atlanta have seen GT go to 20 some straight bowls between the O'Leary, Gailey, Johnson years.... I agree GT propbably isn't the hardest job in America..... Now if the Question said to turn the team into a 9 & 10 win team every season...GT is very hard... getting to 6 or 7 wins and a bowl....wasn't hard until we hired Coach Collins.... Then it became extermely hard!
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No, not the case IMO

Most of GT's difficulties WRT our FB Program are self inflicted, and or result from poor decisions by our Leadership Team that governs Athletics, specifically FB.

To every outsider, GT should be a somewhat easy job due to moderate expectations of the Fans combined with ridiculous amounts of in-State HS FB Talent with the skillz to become future NFL Players.

The other 129 FBS Level Colleges would love to be physically located exactly where GT sits , right smack in the middle of all that Talent.

Given the brand of FB Played in the ACC combined with the nearby Talent, GT should avg 9-10 wins per year and make a run at the CFP every 5-6 years.

For those with short memories, these are the self inflicted issues that we have foisted upon ourselves (we're GT , we can do that):

We chose to leave the SEC.

We chose to hire an inexperienced AD, that allowed our Facilities to deteriorate to among the worst in the Deep South (this was done by the same Guy that took us out the SEC.

We chose to not take GOL back, if I'm the AD and things go sideways at ND like they did, I take GOL back in a NY Second and say it was an Administrative error that left the erroneous Info on his Bio. (but then again coming off a MNC we chose to give our starting RB a 1 year Rip over selling back Textbooks that should've been recycled to the GTAA), while any other College that plays P5 FB would've given him a 1 game "timeout" vs a Cupcake directional school. (once again we're GT, we can do that)

We chose to fire Chan too early, IMO Chan was a great coach by GT Standards for this isolated reason, Chan Recruited GT FB into a place where GT FB was strong at 21 out of 22 of the Starting positions, and at the Time we fired him I opine that he had finally solved the last position, QB.

IMO opinion had we stayed with Chan we go on a mini-Run of unmatched FB prosperity, we would have been atrong at all 22 spots, we would have started a track record of sending Guys to the NFL, and our Recruiting would have started to weaken Teams like Auburn, Kentucky, Tennessee, South Carolina, Notre Dame, and the rest of the schools that came to GA and got fat recruiting NFL caliber talent during our 12 year hiatus from the consciousness of local HS Recruits.

We chose to turn down the B1G Ten & their better TV deal, that now means $22 Million less dollars each year, plus far fewer Sellouts for Home FB Games because there are so many huge B1G Ten Alumni groups in Metro Atl, funny thing is some say we stayed for ACC MBB, but now B1G Ten MBB is just as good or better than ACC MBB.

We chose to be the only P5 College to run "that version" of the triple, you know, the version that only throws 6 times per Game, this proved how out of touch our "power brokers behind the scenes" are, in a place surround by great talent, we chose to tie our fortunes to a system that would make it even harder to Recruit Players.

Thinking about all the bad decisions that GT FB, The GTAA, and our behind the scenes Power Brokers have made to negatively impact GT FB, I'm not sure we deserve to be in the SEC or B1G Ten, maybe we deserve to be in the ACC.

To summarize, GT FB should be an easier FB Job than most places, but for the better part of 70 years we have made a series of horrible decisions (aka self inflicted) that have greatly assisted in making the GT FB HC Job much tougher than it should be
 
JJacket said:
Nope. We were more talented and going to get even more talented with Renfree at QB.
Without Chan, there is no Demaryous, Dwyer, Morgan, Johnson, Burnett, Nesbitt.....
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Thank you!

Finally, a GT FB Fan with "vision" that actually understands P5 CFB, not these Fanboys that hide behind, "it worked at the Academies and it worked at Southern".......
 
PressManCoverage said:
No, not the case IMO

Most of GT's difficulties WRT our FB Program are self inflicted, and or result from poor decisions by our Leadership Team that governs Athletics, specifically FB.

To every outsider, GT should be a somewhat easy job due to moderate expectations of the Fans combined with ridiculous amounts of in-State HS FB Talent with the skillz to become future NFL Players.

The other 129 FBS Level Colleges would love to be physically located exactly where GT sits , right smack in the middle of all that Talent.

Given the brand of FB Played in the ACC combined with the nearby Talent, GT should avg 9-10 wins per year and make a run at the CFP every 5-6 years.

For those with short memories, these are the self inflicted issues that we have foisted upon ourselves (we're GT , we can do that):

We chose to leave the SEC.

We chose to hire an inexperienced AD, that allowed our Facilities to deteriorate to among the worst in the Deep South (this was done by the same Guy that took us out the SEC.

We chose to not take GOL back, if I'm the AD and things go sideways at ND like they did, I take GOL back in a NY Second and say it was an Administrative error that left the erroneous Info on his Bio. (but then again coming off a MNC we chose to give our starting RB a 1 year Rip over selling back Textbooks that should've been recycled to the GTAA), while any other College that plays P5 FB would've given him a 1 game "timeout" vs a Cupcake directional school. (once again we're GT, we can do that)

We chose to fire Chan too early, IMO Chan was a great coach by GT Standards for this isolated reason, Chan Recruited GT FB into a place where GT FB was strong at 21 out of 22 of the Starting positions, and at the Time we fired him I opine that he had finally solved the last position, QB.

IMO opinion had we stayed with Chan we go on a mini-Run of unmatched FB prosperity, we would have been atrong at all 22 spots, we would have started a track record of sending Guys to the NFL, and our Recruiting would have started to weaken Teams like Auburn, Kentucky, Tennessee, South Carolina, Notre Dame, and the rest of the schools that came to GA and got fat recruiting NFL caliber talent during our 12 year hiatus from the consciousness of local HS Recruits.

We chose to turn down the B1G Ten & their better TV deal, that now means $22 Million less dollars each year, plus far fewer Sellouts for Home FB Games because there are so many huge B1G Ten Alumni groups in Metro Atl, funny thing is some say we stayed for ACC MBB, but now B1G Ten MBB is just as good or better than ACC MBB.

We chose to be the only P5 College to run "that version" of the triple, you know, the version that only throws 6 times per Game, this proved how out of touch our "power brokers behind the scenes" are, in a place surround by great talent, we chose to tie our fortunes to a system that would make it even harder to Recruit Players.

Thinking about all the bad decisions that GT FB, The GTAA, and our behind the scenes Power Brokers have made to negatively impact GT FB, I'm not sure we deserve to be in the SEC or B1G Ten, maybe we deserve to be in the ACC.

To summarize, GT FB should be an easier FB Job than most places, but for the better part of 70 years we have made a series of horrible decisions (aka self inflicted) that have greatly assisted in making the GT FB HC Job much tougher than it should be
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You are joking right? We fired Chan to early? Just think What Paul Johnson could have done in 2007 with that team... Chan did zip...like every year before losing to Wake... SMH

BIG Ten sellouts?? So you think Georgia Tech vs Purdue, Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota, Northwestern, Maryland, Rutgers, Mich State will fill the stands like Clemson or FSU not a chance.... You do know that Maryland and GT use to play... Maryland did not fill the stands. Absolutely stand up comedy at this point....
 
GTFLETCH said:
Clearly folks outside of Atlanta have seen GT go to 20 some straight bowls between the O'Leary, Gailey, Johnson years.... I agree GT propbably isn't the hardest job in America..... Now if the Question said to turn the team into a 9 & 10 win team every season...GT is very hard... getting to 6 or 7 wins and a bowl....wasn't hard until we hired Coach Collins.... Then it became extermely hard!
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yeah, PJ broke our bowl streak, in an era where some 80 teams get a bowl invite.
 
GTFLETCH said:
You are joking right? We fired Chan to early? Just think What Paul Johnson could have done in 2007 with that team... Chan did zip...like every year before losing to Wake... SMH

BIG Ten sellouts?? So you think Georgia Tech vs Purdue, Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota, Northwestern, Maryland, Rutgers, Mich State will fill the stands like Clemson or FSU not a chance.... You do know that Maryland and GT use to play... Maryland did not fill the stands. Absolutely stand up comedy at this point....
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We were offered the slot before Maryland, so no Md in the B1G Ten, we take their spot and we would be getting an extra $22 Million per yr in TV-Media Money from Conference membership.

Imagine how much easier it would be to find a GT FB Game on TV?

I'd bet that Minnesota, Purdue, Illinois, Indiana, Northwestern would draw better than Duke, UVA, Wake, NC State, Syracuse, BC, and other ACC Programs that don't care about FB. Instead of 2 horrible road locations in the ACC (BC & Syracuse) we'd only have 1 horrible road location in the B1GTen, Rutgers

It is very easy to find a flight to Atlanta, all major highways in the Deep South run thru Atlanta, and a chance to see their Alma Mater or their Child's Alma Mater play in a great City like Atlanta would be a perfect mini-Vacay for a Midwesterners all over the Deep South.

And I didn't even mention Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, Wiscy, Nebraska, Iowa and others that would be a guaranteed sellout other than the UGA Game.

We go from 2 guaranteed sellouts every other year (UGA, Clemson) to 3 guaranteed sellouts, and from that list way above more of those Games have a chance to top 50K than playing the usual suspects from the ACC.

Just about everyone in CFB knows it was a terrible decision to turn down the B1G Ten, except for our Fans that are stuck in a time warp thinking passing 6 times per Gm and running the Triple was "sustainable P5 CFB" ---- sorry @GTFLETCH you are the stand up comedy on these issues.

In fact the decision to turn down the B1G Ten was so bad the Prez of GT needs to commission an independent investigation to find out what person or group was responsible for such a bad decision.
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
yep and once Richt saw our offense once, he pretty much owned PJ, including PJ's most talented team in '09.
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So who did Richt own more Chan or Paul... Since our last three wins over the mutts are from PJ....I kinda have to think Richt own Gailey....IMHO....also what was PJ record in Athens?
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
yeah, PJ broke our bowl streak, in an era where some 80 teams get a bowl invite.
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True... Can't argue with that...PJ also had a poor winning percentage in Bowl games...has anyone compared Gailey Bowl record and PJs? I wonder how long it will take Collins to get us to a bowl game....
 
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