Apparently GT is NOT one of the hardest jobs in football

PressManCoverage said:
We were offered the slot before Maryland, so no Md in the B1G Ten, we take their spot and we would be getting an extra $22 Million per yr in TV-Media Money from Conference membership.

Imagine how much easier it would be to find a GT FB Game on TV?

I'd bet that Minnesota, Purdue, Illinois, Indiana, Northwestern would draw better than Duke, UVA, Wake, NC State, Syracuse, BC, and other ACC Programs that don't care about FB. Instead of 2 horrible road locations in the ACC (BC & Syracuse) we'd only have 1 horrible road location in the B1GTen, Rutgers

It is very easy to find a flight to Atlanta, all major highways in the Deep South run thru Atlanta, and a chance to see their Alma Mater or their Child's Alma Mater play in a great City like Atlanta would be a perfect mini-Vacay for a Midwesterners all over the Deep South.

And I didn't even mention Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, Wiscy, Nebraska, Iowa and others that would be a guaranteed sellout other than the UGA Game.

We go from 2 guaranteed sellouts every other year (UGA, Clemson) to 3 guaranteed sellouts, and from that list way above more of those Games have a chance to top 50K than playing the usual suspects from the ACC.

Just about everyone in CFB knows it was a terrible decision to turn down the B1G Ten, except for our Fans that are stuck in a time warp thinking passing 6 times per Gm and running the Triple was "sustainable P5 CFB" ---- sorry @GTFLETCH you are the stand up comedy on these issues.

In fact the decision to turn down the B1G Ten was so bad the Prez of GT needs to commission an independent investigation to find out what person or group was responsible for such a bad decision.
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WRONG!!
Here's the tidbit from ESPN:
"Not only does Atlanta sit at the geographic heart of the SEC and the ACC, two of the conferences that make up the Power 5, but five years ago, when the Big Ten expanded to 14 teams, the league didn't take Rutgers until it had been turned down by Georgia Tech."

So I guess you mean Rutgers
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PressManCoverage said:
We were offered the slot before Maryland, so no Md in the B1G Ten, we take their spot and we would be getting an extra $22 Million per yr in TV-Media Money from Conference membership.

Imagine how much easier it would be to find a GT FB Game on TV?

I'd bet that Minnesota, Purdue, Illinois, Indiana, Northwestern would draw better than Duke, UVA, Wake, NC State, Syracuse, BC, and other ACC Programs that don't care about FB. Instead of 2 horrible road locations in the ACC (BC & Syracuse) we'd only have 1 horrible road location in the B1GTen, Rutgers

It is very easy to find a flight to Atlanta, all major highways in the Deep South run thru Atlanta, and a chance to see their Alma Mater or their Child's Alma Mater play in a great City like Atlanta would be a perfect mini-Vacay for a Midwesterners all over the Deep South.

And I didn't even mention Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, Wiscy, Nebraska, Iowa and others that would be a guaranteed sellout other than the UGA Game.

We go from 2 guaranteed sellouts every other year (UGA, Clemson) to 3 guaranteed sellouts, and from that list way above more of those Games have a chance to top 50K than playing the usual suspects from the ACC.

Just about everyone in CFB knows it was a terrible decision to turn down the B1G Ten, except for our Fans that are stuck in a time warp thinking passing 6 times per Gm and running the Triple was "sustainable P5 CFB" ---- sorry @GTFLETCH you are the stand up comedy on these issues.

In fact the decision to turn down the B1G Ten was so bad the Prez of GT needs to commission an independent investigation to find out what person or group was responsible for such a bad decision.
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Ok Lets look at Rutgers Home Attendance with BIG Ten School traveling to play Rutgers.... Rutgers plays in the HighPoint.com Stadium which holds 52K...Lets start at 2019 the year before covid


2019
Maryland 30K
#22 Minnesota 22K
#2 Ohio State 33K
Michigan St 24K

2018
Indiana 32K
Illionis 36K
Northwestern 32K
#4 Michigan 43K
#16 Penn State 44K

2017
#11 Ohio State 46K
Purdue 38K
Maryland 35K
#21 Mighigan State 35K

2016
Iowa 44K
#4 Michigan 53K
Illionios 42K
Indiana 37K
#9 Penn State 51K

2015
#4 Michigan St 50K
#1 Ohio State 53K
Nebraska 45K
Maryland 44K

2014
Penn State 53K
Michigan 53K
Wisconsin 52K
Indiana 44K

So in the 6 years since joining the BIG ...Rutgers saw 7 games that the BIG traveled and put more than 50K in seats. In that same span Georgia Tech playing in the ACC saw 12 home games that had 50K in seats... I do not think joining the BIG would pack out Bobby Dodd IMHO, along with the added travel cost for all sports it probably wasn't a wise decision to join the BIG...IMHO

2014
Georgia Soutnern (53K)
Miami (52K)

2015
Tulane (50K)
UNC (50K)
FSU (55K)
UGA (55K)

2016
Clemson (53K)
Miami (53K)

2017
Jax State (50K)
UGA (55K)

2018
Clemson (50K)

2019
UGA (55K)
 
GTFLETCH said:
You are joking right? We fired Chan to early? Just think What Paul Johnson could have done in 2007 with that team... Chan did zip...like every year before losing to Wake... SMH

BIG Ten sellouts?? So you think Georgia Tech vs Purdue, Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota, Northwestern, Maryland, Rutgers, Mich State will fill the stands like Clemson or FSU not a chance.... You do know that Maryland and GT use to play... Maryland did not fill the stands. Absolutely stand up comedy at this point....
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Johnson in 07 is an interesting thought experiment.

- First up finishing up the 06 season. We probably get smoked by West Virginia instead of the close loss if we base it on Tenuta's performance as HC the following year.

Recruiting:
- The 07 recruiting class falls apart. Zero chance Johnson's recruiting staff can keep it together. It becomes a cobbled together class that would rank with one of Johnson's worst. None of the four stars stay. Nightmare scenario = Burnett, Dwyer, and Nebsitt are dwags.

Offense:
- Tashard Choice goes pro. I cannot see him hanging around to play in the triple option for his senior year.
- Starting QB has to be some freshman CPJ scrounged up or Booker. Bennett transfers.
- BBack = Mike Cox. Zero big play capability.
- ABacks are Grant and some freshman. I think Grant may have been decent as an AB. I think Evans ends up transferring a year earlier.
- WR - I wonder if Thomas leaves being earlier in his career and not having been as established? Johnson and Smith leave. Best case your WR are Thomas and Earls - worst case Earls is WR #1
- OL - I'd be surprised if there isn't a decent sized exodus here as well.

Defense
- Probably slightly worse than it was with Tenuta. Can't imagine many departures. Wommack did OK with the most talented Georgia Tech defense I can remember in 08. This one was better at LB and slightly worse on the DL and worse in the secondary.

I suspect you see something like 6 or 7 wins in 07 with a loss to UGA. Offense looks like Shaw/Booker offense from 08 without Dwyer (and maybe Thomas) to bail it out.

The bigger implication is replacing the 07 class with a cobbled together CPJ class. I don't think CPJ makes it past 2012 in this scenario. 0-5 vs UGA and no ACC championship or Orange bowl.

Edit - A serious question is does Johnson take that job looking at that roster? Is he so obsessed with proving his offense can work in a P5 that he takes it or does he wait for a better opportunity (that may never come)?
 
knoxjacket said:
Johnson in 07 is an interesting thought experiment.

- First up finishing up the 06 season. We probably get smoked by West Virginia instead of the close loss if we base it on Tenuta's performance as HC the following year.

Recruiting:
- The 07 recruiting class falls apart. Zero chance Johnson's recruiting staff can keep it together. It becomes a cobbled together class that would rank with one of Johnson's worst. None of the four stars stay. Nightmare scenario = Burnett, Dwyer, and Nebsitt are dwags.

Offense:
- Tashard Choice goes pro. I cannot see him hanging around to play in the triple option for his senior year.
- Starting QB has to be some freshman CPJ scrounged up or Booker. Bennett transfers.
- BBack = Mike Cox. Zero big play capability.
- ABacks are Grant and some freshman. I think Grant may have been decent as an AB. I think Evans ends up transferring a year earlier.
- WR - I wonder if Thomas leaves being earlier in his career and not having been as established? Johnson and Smith leave. Best case your WR are Thomas and Earls - worst case Earls is WR #1
- OL - I'd be surprised if there isn't a decent sized exodus here as well.

Defense
- Probably slightly worse than it was with Tenuta. Can't imagine many departures. Wommack did OK with the most talented Georgia Tech defense I can remember in 08. This one was better at LB and slightly worse on the DL and worse in the secondary.

I suspect you see something like 6 or 7 wins in 07 with a loss to UGA. Offense looks like Shaw/Booker offense from 08 without Dwyer (and maybe Thomas) to bail it out.

The bigger implication is replacing the 07 class with a cobbled together CPJ class. I don't think CPJ makes it past 2012 in this scenario. 0-5 vs UGA and no ACC championship or Orange bowl.
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I love the doomsday scenario.... I wonder if the 2007 class was responsible for the 2014 season also? I am not so sure things fall apart like you mention becuase I never saw anything remotely like your scenario play out with the 2008 or 2009 Georgia Tech teams and players! It is an interesting doomsday scenario though.
 
knoxjacket said:
Johnson in 07 is an interesting thought experiment.

- First up finishing up the 06 season. We probably get smoked by West Virginia instead of the close loss if we base it on Tenuta's performance as HC the following year.

Recruiting:
- The 07 recruiting class falls apart. Zero chance Johnson's recruiting staff can keep it together. It becomes a cobbled together class that would rank with one of Johnson's worst. None of the four stars stay. Nightmare scenario = Burnett, Dwyer, and Nebsitt are dwags.

Offense:
- Tashard Choice goes pro. I cannot see him hanging around to play in the triple option for his senior year.
- Starting QB has to be some freshman CPJ scrounged up or Booker. Bennett transfers.
- BBack = Mike Cox. Zero big play capability.
- ABacks are Grant and some freshman. I think Grant may have been decent as an AB. I think Evans ends up transferring a year earlier.
- WR - I wonder if Thomas leaves being earlier in his career and not having been as established? Johnson and Smith leave. Best case your WR are Thomas and Earls - worst case Earls is WR #1
- OL - I'd be surprised if there isn't a decent sized exodus here as well.

Defense
- Probably slightly worse than it was with Tenuta. Can't imagine many departures. Wommack did OK with the most talented Georgia Tech defense I can remember in 08. This one was better at LB and slightly worse on the DL and worse in the secondary.

I suspect you see something like 6 or 7 wins in 07 with a loss to UGA. Offense looks like Shaw/Booker offense from 08 without Dwyer (and maybe Thomas) to bail it out.

The bigger implication is replacing the 07 class with a cobbled together CPJ class. I don't think CPJ makes it past 2012 in this scenario. 0-5 vs UGA and no ACC championship or Orange bowl.

Edit - A serious question is does Johnson take that job looking at that roster? Is he so obsessed with proving his offense can work in a P5 that he takes it or does he wait for a better opportunity (that may never come)?
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What if? Didn't happen. I like dealing in reality. What if Curry had not gone to Alabama? Didn't happen. What if Ross had not gone to San Diego? Didn't happen. What if O'Leary had fixed his resume' typos and stayed? Didn't happen. What if we had not fired Chan? Didn't happen. I look at wins and losses. Tech is a coach killer and we are lucky to have gotten some of the coaches we have had. No need to run any of them down (including the current one) with suppositions.
 
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