Catchall FSU Gone/Snubbed/White Knighting Thread

As for Notre Dame, an official with one of the involved bowls said his bowl was told “point blank” by the conference that the Irish were “not available” to its pool. The source was not pleased at “being told who the teams were” and believed the process ran contrary to the contracts.

An ACC official said Notre Dame was “eligible for selection, but under the selection guidelines, their selection by one of those bowls was not guaranteed.”

While other bowl announcements began trickling out across social media as early as mid-afternoon, the ACC’s remained notably missing. That’s because the group’s normally brief selection call lasted nearly 90 minutes. NC State had been to San Diego in 2021, too recently to return. The same applied with Clemson in Orlando. And the SEC, which largely dictates which of its teams go where, already had placed Kentucky in the Gator Bowl, ruling out Louisville. Thus, the Pop-Tarts got the Wolfpack (to face Kansas State), the Gator got Clemson and the Cardinals landed in San Diego against USC.


“(FSU’s snub) was unfortunate for college football,” Neville said, “but for us, it worked out that we got the No. 15 team in the country coming out here.”

The prolonged process delayed selections for the conference’s next tier of bowls — the Duke’s Mayo, Pinstripe and Sun bowls. Olivas, the longtime director of El Paso’s 88-year-old bowl game, nervously shuttled back and forth between the bowl’s “war room” and a party the bowl was hosting for 300 guests.

Finally, he got a text that it was time to log onto a Zoom call, at which point Strickland informed the bowl of the remaining teams it could choose from. They included UNC, Miami … and Notre Dame.

“We were shocked,” said Olivas, who had locked in Oregon State on the Pac-12 side. “In our weekly meetings with our football committee and our board of directors, Notre Dame never came up. We had no idea what happened above us.”

Unsurprisingly, all three bowls submitted the Irish as their top choice. Per the ACC official, the league then followed its prescribed process, leading to … its attorney writing each bowl’s name on a piece of paper and drawing it out of a hat.

“He twirled them around, twirled them around, and Michael Strickland read the name — Sun Bowl,” Olivas said.

Olivas then went to announce it at the party. Only one problem: No one had thought to include Notre Dame, which last played at the bowl in 2010, among the row of helmets displayed on the table in front of him. Standing next to Tony the Tiger on one side and the Sun Court “Lady in Waiting” on the other, Olivas raised his arms like an Olympian who just won the gold, and the crowd erupted.

The SUN BOWL sold out within 24 hours.

After the Pinstripe Bowl landed Miami and North Carolina got the home-state Mayo Bowl, most of the remaining dominoes fell to ESPN Events, which owns and operates 17 bowls and absorbs some of the conferences’ surplus teams. That’s how Syracuse landed seemingly randomly in the Boca Raton Bowl, perhaps for all the Central New York retirees there. At one point, it was reported that Duke would play UCF in the Gasparilla Bowl before someone noticed the teams had just faced each other in last season’s Military Bowl. Georgia Tech swapped places with the Blue Devils.


The 41st and final bowl announcement of the day — Duke versus Troy in the Birmingham Bowl — came shortly before 7 p.m. ET, nearly seven hours after the FSU bombshell that ricocheted from the ESPN set in Bristol, Conn., to the Bronx, to Orlando, to El Paso, to San Diego and many points in between.

“We’ve been doing this since 2019,” Morrison said. “We’ve had something pop up unexpectedly every year, but I would say this one had a lot more pop-ups.”

The Athletic’s Scott Dochterman contributed to this report.

Link
https://theathletic.com/5112770/2023/12/05/florida-state-playoff-snub-acc-bowl-games
 
The seeding should have gone as follows;
1. Michigan
2. Washington
3.F.S.U.
4. Either Texas or Alabama, to be decided in head to head competition, Texas
would have been the 4th seed as they defeated Alabama in head to head competition.

The Selection Committee nor the S.E.C. wasn't going to let this happen because it
wouldn't be the CFP without a S.E.C. team in the mix!
 
The B1G is looking for more teams with/for:
- highly watched matchups
- TV sets added by State / Market (Florida is huge, Georgia has more TV sets than Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, etc.)
- AAC research consortium

F$U to B1G is Big if true.

Those questions are not asked in a vacuum. The GOR looks ironclad so the actual question is if FSU away games increase the B10 tv contract so much that a partial share there is worth more than a full share in the ACC.

I am pretty sure Fox and ESPN will say no to that.
 
I have a concern FSU will somehow use their Playoff exclusion to get out of paying their ACC exit fee. Like they've been wrongly denied financial gain by virtue of membership in the ACC and the remedy is to be allowed to leave without penalty. It figures the Committee would screw them and we'd somehow suffer the consequences (beyond bowl money).

How is that the ACC’s fault? The ACC is still holding its end of the contract by providing league games and tv revenue. Unless they can prove a conspiracy between the ACC office and CFP committee, it just means FSU signed a contract with a ööööty league.
 
As for Notre Dame, an official with one of the involved bowls said his bowl was told “point blank” by the conference that the Irish were “not available” to its pool. The source was not pleased at “being told who the teams were” and believed the process ran contrary to the contracts.

An ACC official said Notre Dame was “eligible for selection, but under the selection guidelines, their selection by one of those bowls was not guaranteed.”

While other bowl announcements began trickling out across social media as early as mid-afternoon, the ACC’s remained notably missing. That’s because the group’s normally brief selection call lasted nearly 90 minutes. NC State had been to San Diego in 2021, too recently to return. The same applied with Clemson in Orlando. And the SEC, which largely dictates which of its teams go where, already had placed Kentucky in the Gator Bowl, ruling out Louisville. Thus, the Pop-Tarts got the Wolfpack (to face Kansas State), the Gator got Clemson and the Cardinals landed in San Diego against USC.


“(FSU’s snub) was unfortunate for college football,” Neville said, “but for us, it worked out that we got the No. 15 team in the country coming out here.”

The prolonged process delayed selections for the conference’s next tier of bowls — the Duke’s Mayo, Pinstripe and Sun bowls. Olivas, the longtime director of El Paso’s 88-year-old bowl game, nervously shuttled back and forth between the bowl’s “war room” and a party the bowl was hosting for 300 guests.

Finally, he got a text that it was time to log onto a Zoom call, at which point Strickland informed the bowl of the remaining teams it could choose from. They included UNC, Miami … and Notre Dame.

“We were shocked,” said Olivas, who had locked in Oregon State on the Pac-12 side. “In our weekly meetings with our football committee and our board of directors, Notre Dame never came up. We had no idea what happened above us.”

Unsurprisingly, all three bowls submitted the Irish as their top choice. Per the ACC official, the league then followed its prescribed process, leading to … its attorney writing each bowl’s name on a piece of paper and drawing it out of a hat.

“He twirled them around, twirled them around, and Michael Strickland read the name — Sun Bowl,” Olivas said.

Olivas then went to announce it at the party. Only one problem: No one had thought to include Notre Dame, which last played at the bowl in 2010, among the row of helmets displayed on the table in front of him. Standing next to Tony the Tiger on one side and the Sun Court “Lady in Waiting” on the other, Olivas raised his arms like an Olympian who just won the gold, and the crowd erupted.

The SUN BOWL sold out within 24 hours.

After the Pinstripe Bowl landed Miami and North Carolina got the home-state Mayo Bowl, most of the remaining dominoes fell to ESPN Events, which owns and operates 17 bowls and absorbs some of the conferences’ surplus teams. That’s how Syracuse landed seemingly randomly in the Boca Raton Bowl, perhaps for all the Central New York retirees there. At one point, it was reported that Duke would play UCF in the Gasparilla Bowl before someone noticed the teams had just faced each other in last season’s Military Bowl. Georgia Tech swapped places with the Blue Devils.


The 41st and final bowl announcement of the day — Duke versus Troy in the Birmingham Bowl — came shortly before 7 p.m. ET, nearly seven hours after the FSU bombshell that ricocheted from the ESPN set in Bristol, Conn., to the Bronx, to Orlando, to El Paso, to San Diego and many points in between.

“We’ve been doing this since 2019,” Morrison said. “We’ve had something pop up unexpectedly every year, but I would say this one had a lot more pop-ups.”

The Athletic’s Scott Dochterman contributed to this report.

Link
https://theathletic.com/5112770/2023/12/05/florida-state-playoff-snub-acc-bowl-games

.....most of the remaining dominoes fell to ESPN Events, which owns and operates 17 bowls and absorbs some of the conferences’ surplus teams.

I thought this quote quite eye opening, at least to me. Did not know their interest included equity.
 
How is that the ACC’s fault? The ACC is still holding its end of the contract by providing league games and tv revenue. Unless they can prove a conspiracy between the ACC office and CFP committee, it just means FSU signed a contract with a ööööty league.
The ACC (Jim Phillips) had that stupid handshake deal alliance with the B1G, P12 and decided not to vote with the B12, SEC to start the expanded 12-team CFP this year. How did that end for Phillips?

That is really the only complaint FSU can have at the moment. So if that’s the excuse they want to use now, 100% up to FSU.

The GOR is what it is. They agreed to it. With the expansion of SMU, Stanford, Cal, the ACC GOR will remain in place. Disney cannot back out of it, even if FSU, Clemson leave.
 
Both teams are going to have a bunch of opt outs. If FSU wins it won't matter, if Georgia wins it just proves the committee right.
It'd only prove them right if you think the "best four teams" means "predicted strongest four teams" and not "most deserving four teams". ESPN and the Committee kept screaming it's not the "most deserving" but I very much disagree that it shouldn't be. In that world there can never be an underdog–no matter what you do if you're not a favorite you're out. Achievement doesn't matter just perception.

I think Georgia will probably win but FSU should have been in the Playoff.
 
More smoke…Looks like FSU is trying to go to the B1G per ”rumors” a decision to leave the ACC (again) could come by the end of January.

I would effing love to go to the B1G with FSU, Clemson, the Cali schools, and 1 other regional rival. Heck I’d accept PITT if it meant we kept playing Clemson and FSU on a regular basis. Or VPI and UVA.
 
FSU is a better name than Oklahoma.

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I would effing love to go to the B1G with FSU, Clemson, the Cali schools, and 1 other regional rival. Heck I’d accept PITT if it meant we kept playing Clemson and FSU on a regular basis. Or VPI and UVA.
I’d take GT to the B1G at this point if it was just us and U Hawaii. The ACC is well on its way to mid-major.
 
It just means they didn't want any bowl rematches or rematches of games played during the current season. That's more than just a distinction.
I guess that what, 2 or 3 months before last years bowl game really adds a huge difference in nature of the opponent, eh? Just because that's where they drew the line doesn't mean it's a dumb ass line to draw. Duke should of had to swap with Cuse and play USF, then no one gets a game that feels like a retread.
 
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