CNN Breaking News....Coleman Going Off On gailey Again..!!.

Again, COleman would be the first to pick GT if he saw a reason to do it. When you lose 51-7 and quit. When you get spanked by a weak Fresno St. wannabe. When you let the kids "police themselves." When 10 players fail out in 1 quarter, and that happened to be in spring when rarely anyone fails out in the first place. And then you read the scrimmage report posted on ramblinwreck.com, I can understand the majority saying we are going to win 3-4 games. Coleman came from a hell of a program from Valdosta, and one he saw at GT. But he also saw the makings of a debacle under BL. He doesnt want that to happen just like anyone of us. He is going to give his opinion, and he is not going to be an asskisser or homer. You always know where he stands whether you agree or not. The radio stuff is so blown out of proportion by some of you guys. Coleman's issue is very similar to John Davis', just said in a different way. Gailey is a good man, deserves a chance because now it is the right thing to do. That doesnt mean you believe he can do it and wont do it. But if you remeber, John Davis thought Braine should step aside. The whole AA situation is lousy and is unfair to Gailey or any coach down at The Flats. But the AD and admin around Gailey certainly dont help and that is where more time and attention should be paid by all. I would love to have an outside audit and report on our AA over the last 5 years like Clemson is doing. Where is our 10 year Business plan? Would be very interesting.
 
Gnome, General Wood agreed earlier in this thread that we still didn't know what really went on with the academic issues. Has that changed?

I don't have a problem with people who think Braine should be removed. I don't see what that has to do with Coleman making fun of our football team though. To me, they are different issues. And you're right, 51-7 was pretty bad. But I don't understand why a Tech fan would keep bringing it up in a public forum. I haven't forgotten it, but I damn sure don't want to talk about it.
 
I don't disagree with you that Braine should go and have no problem with people calling for his head. I think he is a good AD from a big picture standpoint but is woeful in managing the day to day operations of an Athletic Program Unfortunately, he will not go away on his own. I do have a problem with people who relentlessly bash Gailey because it serves absolutely no useful purpose. Coach Gailey is the coach and we should be supporting him and the team as we go into the season. The time to make decisions about coaches is after the season. Additionally, none of the folks who bash Gailey offer any real options. The thruth be told very few if any proven head coaches are interested in the GT job because it is a damn hard one due to limit and difficult course curriculum and recruiting limitations. Ted Roof told me at least at Duke after you get them admitted you don't have to worry about them flunking out. O'Leary said you have to work twice as hard at GT as at other schools. Most coaches don't want to have to deal with the academic gauntlet that GT throws down
 
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Gailey is a good man, deserves a chance because now it is the right thing to do. That doesnt mean you believe he can do it and wont do it. But if you remeber, John Davis thought Braine should step aside. The whole AA situation is lousy and is unfair to Gailey or any coach down at The Flats. But the AD and admin around Gailey certainly dont help and that is where more time and attention should be paid by all. I would love to have an outside audit and report on our AA over the last 5 years like Clemson is doing. Where is our 10 year Business plan? Would be very interesting.

Bingo! Beautifully concise and accurate. Folks, this is THE major problem at Tech. Nobody knows on 8/16 about Chan Gailey. They may think they do, but they don't.
If it all comes out, everyone will understand that Tech's world changed the day GOL left, and I am not talking x's and o's, or Chan Gailey.
 
McDaddy, thanks for the reply. Why would a Tech fan want Gailey to go 0-4 in his first four games? That is also saying you wish Tech's football team is 0-4 in its first four games.

If you dislike Gailey that much so that you want Tech to lose, it cannot have anything to do with his ability to coach. You are saying by this action, you do not want to give him a chance to win, you do not want him to win.

Since you did not respond to my questions in the post above, I must make my own assumptions, which I believe to be correct.

I will post the reasons in a subsequent separate thread.

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Just a small point Gnome. Not many businesses spend much time on 10 year plans anymore. The markets and business in general is too volatile to look that far ahead unless you're talking facilities. 5 years maybe, but 10 is wishful thinking at best.
 
Nc, this is one of the better threads that I have seen in a while....no one jumping on ms ta, but I must say that this is not a high tech venture which the new economy is familiar with. This is brick and mortar, and everyone says that we must give a coach five years. So, I don't think a ten year plan is detrimental to our long term development.

We have basically given Gailey the gas pipe. Now we should be able to determine whether he can coach at this level or not. Do I think that he is a good coach? I do not know, but I have asked all of my friends who are former players from Coach Alex to O'Leary to assess that. Did the players exemplify the Tech image last year? I have categorically heard a resounding "NO" from alumni and fans of the program. It was not BL revisted, but more like Pepper Rogers. Just show up on Saturday, and I'll play with what is there with your hair flying and your chains dangling. I think that this was a result of the years that Gailey has been away from the college game, and the fact that he has never been at a place like GT. Is GT better than Troy State? I let my maker do the judging, but I know that Tech is different and must me approached differently. Why do we have less than 70 SAs at the present? Some blame has to rest on the administration. Why didn't someone look at the numbers and see that we had a numbers issue. Even if the "unfortunate 10" were still on campus, we would be below the 85 rule. Is Gailey to blame for this? Hell NO!!!! Alabama would be crying the blues for having to be below the SA limit by 5, and we are below by 15. For heavens sake, we are a D 1AA school at the present. We have placed ourselves on "probation". If this staff can win under these circumstances, my hat is off to them. I enjoy when the dialogue is above board, and not the attacks on ones religion or sex.
I applaud some of you younger guys for your enthusiasm, but the personal attacks serve no purpose.

Those who aren't liberal when young have no heart, and those who are conservative when old have no brain.
 
Thanks for making my point Gnome, it's not what you say but how you say it that causes hard feelings. If Coleman would make the effort to find a way to get his point across without making Tech look bad nobody would have a problem with him.

Also, techsamillion, I'm with you man. Sorry you took my post as chastising you, that's not how I meant it.
 
Originally posted by ncjacket:
Thanks for making my point Gnome, it's not what you say but how you say it that causes hard feelings. If Coleman would make the effort to find a way to get his point across without making Tech look bad nobody would have a problem with him.

Also, techsamillion, I'm with you man. Sorry you took my post as chastising you, that's not how I meant it.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">NC.. Everyone doesn't speak in vanilla, monotone engineer speak... some of us are a little more colorful, expressive & passionate than that.. I like the way Coleman expresses himself, straightforward without a bunch of double-talk...
 
Originally posted by ncjacket:
Thanks for making my point Gnome, it's not what you say but how you say it that causes hard feelings. If Coleman would make the effort to find a way to get his point across without making Tech look bad nobody would have a problem with him.

Also, techsamillion, I'm with you man. Sorry you took my post as chastising you, that's not how I meant it.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Nothing is worse than the UGA game, no matter what Coleman says on the radio. That game alone will either be a measuring point for Chan Gailey from here on. Hopefully it becomes a bump in the road for Gailey or a wake up call or something. This is a new season. Yes, you cant change the past. But you know and I know that game will be in the front of everyone's minds at GT unless things change for the better this year. No excuses or slack will be given this year. Gailey doesnt want any slack and no one will give it too them. But DB has had basically 7 years. That is a different story. He let Gailey down and should pay a price. I dont know where you get your info, but Braine and Braine alone changed the academic structure. That is a fact. More on this later I assure you. If you dont believe me, ask General Wood.
 
Originally posted by LLCoolJacket:
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Gailey is a good man, deserves a chance because now it is the right thing to do. That doesnt mean you believe he can do it and wont do it. But if you remeber, John Davis thought Braine should step aside. The whole AA situation is lousy and is unfair to Gailey or any coach down at The Flats. But the AD and admin around Gailey certainly dont help and that is where more time and attention should be paid by all. I would love to have an outside audit and report on our AA over the last 5 years like Clemson is doing. Where is our 10 year Business plan? Would be very interesting.

Bingo! Beautifully concise and accurate. Folks, this is THE major problem at Tech. Nobody knows on 8/16 about Chan Gailey. They may think they do, but they don't.
If it all comes out, everyone will understand that Tech's world changed the day GOL left, and I am not talking x's and o's, or Chan Gailey.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">But LL, I have CONSISTNETLY been saying this in my threads for 2 months now and it seems to not be a big issue. The attitude from a majority of our alumni for years is very laid back, but when you have a Homer Rice, you had the sincere Trust Factor. Everyone needs to wake up and smell the coffee about our AA as a whole. Gailey is just doing his best. But he is in that position of HC because of our AD. And unfortunatley, our AD is has let Gailey down, a lot of the kids down, and the university down but Clough doesnt care. I guess we should just hope everything turns out ok, huh?
 
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And unfortunatley, our AD is has let Gailey down, a lot of the kids down, and the university down but Clough doesnt care. I guess we should just hope everything turns out ok, huh?

Its really unbelievable, but I think many out there seriously don't/won't see this.
If Braine doesn't touch any more buttons, things may get better, but at a half mil per, that thought is ridiculous. Never mind. He has to go.
 
Did I miss something somewhere out there about three generations of Rudolph's family playing for Tech , I thought it was just the Rhino's!?

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Originally posted by General Wood:
Those who aren't liberal when young have no heart, and those who are conservative when old have no brain.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Spoken like a true socialist.
 
Well, don't know if he was exactly a socialist but that quote is from Winston Churchill IIRC.
 
originally posted by General Wood
Those who aren't liberal when young have no heart, and those who are conservative when old have no brain.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Don't know if that was a typo in your paraphrased version of a quote attributed to Winston Churchill, but the latter half should be "those who aren't conservative when old..."

Makes better sense and clears you of all "Socialistic" charges.
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The plethora of knowledge combined with quick wit makes this a truly enjoyable experience.


Now if we could only see some maturity out of our young and impetuous posters.
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Originally posted by General Wood:
The plethora of knowledge combined with quick wit makes this a truly enjoyable experience.


Now if we could only see some maturity out of our young and impetuous posters.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">I bet Coleman must be worried after hearing the Gailey news that he may just have to eat his words, huh General Wood? Gailey probably said something like this: "Those people talking bad about the program are going to have to eat those words, or maybe not, or maybe...." That would be more his consistent answer. Just kidding around here.
 
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