Collins was the defenses problem

Collins was, by all metrics, a lousy coach and needed to go. However, given how different/better the team looks since his departure makes me wonder if his deficiencies extended beyond the Xs and Os and into the team culture. Any thoughts if the whole football team culture turned toxic? Did the bad apple rot the entire barrel?
 
Aluminium Stinger said:
Based on the game today, you can easily deduce he’s the worst coach in the entire NCAA. But honestly, is he really this bad? He’s gone 1 week and a new team?
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It honestly makes me feel for him. It's easy to dismiss because we are all so emotional over his tenure, but he is still a guy trying to do something he is passionate about, and anyone who has an opinion on his efforts thinks he is incompetent, a fraud, a clown, and a thousand other things before they think of him as a man who tried and failed.

I'm angry at him too, but over what? Because he made comments about the fans which I took offense to, in a situation I've never been in and can't imagine? Most of us are angry in direct proportion to how excited and supportive we were for Collins, and probably feel both foolish due to the results, and burned because he seemed to turn on us before we turned on him.

I dunno, I don't really care anymore. We just won back to back games and have every reason to be excited and hopeful in a season which we thought was completely hopeless ten days ago. I hope Gofef finds his calling and makes good use of the rewards he has reaped from his time here.
 
Athletic Supporter said:
Collins was, by all metrics, a lousy coach and needed to go. However, given how different/better the team looks since his departure makes me wonder if his deficiencies extended beyond the Xs and Os and into the team culture. Any thoughts if the whole football team culture turned toxic? Did the bad apple rot the entire barrel?
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I doubt we will ever know, but it really is just hard to fathom. How much could have been so wrong for three years, yet made more or less right in a matter of three days?
 
Athletic Supporter said:
Collins was, by all metrics, a lousy coach and needed to go. However, given how different/better the team looks since his departure makes me wonder if his deficiencies extended beyond the Xs and Os and into the team culture. Any thoughts if the whole football team culture turned toxic? Did the bad apple rot the entire barrel?
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I don’t think Key could have turned things around so fast if the attitude among the players was toxic. I suspect GC cared more about being friends with players than with growing players. I wonder if he never really got out of a recruiting mindset, and practices were more about winning their loyalty than winning the next game. Collins didn’t have the self awareness to recognize and correct that mistake.
 
Athletic Supporter said:
Collins was, by all metrics, a lousy coach and needed to go. However, given how different/better the team looks since his departure makes me wonder if his deficiencies extended beyond the Xs and Os and into the team culture. Any thoughts if the whole football team culture turned toxic? Did the bad apple rot the entire barrel?
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No jumping around and holding signs with $$ on them was nice.
 
Look at Duke's QB's stats by game this season. The Tech defense sticks out in a good way. It's been a while since you could say that.
 

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My thoughts on Collins - 1) Actually a good recruiter who really could talk some BS - if we had all the players who left plus existing team, we would have top level ACC talent. I thought after the UCF game that this team was not talentless 2) Terrible at picking coordinators - Coach P meant well but really - I don't think Collins picked Long 3) Create discipline - what a joke - stupid penalties and uncovered opponent recievers tell the story 4) Game day coach - what a joke.

I don't fell any sorry for him - he was paid over $15MM during his career.
 
The Jacket said:
It honestly makes me feel for him. It's easy to dismiss because we are all so emotional over his tenure, but he is still a guy trying to do something he is passionate about, and anyone who has an opinion on his efforts thinks he is incompetent, a fraud, a clown, and a thousand other things before they think of him as a man who tried and failed.

I'm angry at him too, but over what? Because he made comments about the fans which I took offense to, in a situation I've never been in and can't imagine? Most of us are angry in direct proportion to how excited and supportive we were for Collins, and probably feel both foolish due to the results, and burned because he seemed to turn on us before we turned on him.

I dunno, I don't really care anymore. We just won back to back games and have every reason to be excited and hopeful in a season which we thought was completely hopeless ten days ago. I hope Gofef finds his calling and makes good use of the rewards he has reaped from his time here.
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You feel sorry for a guy that fleeced us for $11 mil and left us with peanuts in our bank account? He wasn’t passionate about Georgia Tech. If he loved Georgia Tech he would’ve done the honorable thing and resigned. I feel sorry for anyone who is dumb and gullible enough to hire him to coach anything football at any level.
 
Tampa Jacket said:
You feel sorry for a guy that fleeced us for $11 mil and left us with peanuts in our bank account? He wasn’t passionate about Georgia Tech. If he loved Georgia Tech he would’ve done the honorable thing and resigned. Good riddance. I feel sorry for anyone who is dumb and gullible enough to hire him to coach anything football at any level.
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This "honorable" thing and resign is a BS line. You wouldn't resign and leave $11 million on the table. I wouldn't. Hell, nobody would.
 
Tampa Jacket said:
Yes. I would. I’m not a theif. I was taught not to steal.
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Horseshit you would and it isn't stealing. It is a contract. We signed it. He signed it. If he had been everything he advertised himself to be and won games (I know, totally fictitious alternate reality world) you damn straight we would have demanded a payout from him had he left for a bigger program. It is business. If you are screwing yourself out of money that is contractually yours, may as well not even have a firing clause in the contract at all.
 
The obsession with money as the x factor in every last decision made about cfb is what has "ruined" it for so many, and yet those same fans let it determine who is good, who is bad, who should literally die, etc. Gross.
 
JJacket said:
Horseshit you would and it isn't stealing. It is a contract. We signed it. He signed it. If he had been everything he advertised himself to be and won games (I know, totally fictitious alternate reality world) you damn straight we would have demanded a payout from him had he left for a bigger program. It is business. If you are screwing yourself out of money that is contractually yours, may as well not even have a firing clause in the contract at all.
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I’ve left lots of money on the table over the years that I could’ve collected contractually but I did not because despite my best efforts, the work was unsatisfactory for my customer, and it was unsatisfactory to me.
 
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