CPJ Mad Bro

If you are miserable all the time, the problem is not with the world. And you are ensuring you will be miserable when you die.

I remember talking with an old fart when O'Leary took over. He also had no time for a rebuild and demanded results NOW!!!111!!! He said he had no time left for building a program. I just sat in astonishment wondering what any coach could do taking over for Lewis, or should do in building a winner.

And it gives me no joy that the species lives on with different faces. Unless you were at the Prado events back around 1995. Then it would be the same face.
 
cbee said:
And again, my point is CPJ won 7 games with this No Football Talent.
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Do we need to re-visit those 7 powerhouses we beat that year? Again, only 2 of those had winning records, one barely over .500. The rest sucked worse than we have the past 2 years.
 
cbee said:
And again, my point is CPJ won 7 games with this No Football Talent.
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He timed it so he had a full senior class his last year, and left next year with nothing. So he won 7 games with a totally different team than what he left behind. How many seniors did he have? How many juniors did not return?

And he got plastered in the bowl. He sure as hell did not get a bump from his players digging deep for a beloved coach.
 
JJacket said:
Good for you. What are you after here? Did you want Collins fired after year 1?
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No. I want Collins to be successful. I do not understand why everyone cannot be in the GT camp and not divided with loyalties for one coach or another. I liked CPJ. Saw him do things at Tech I never thought I'd see again. Doesn't mean that I want Collins to fail. With that said, I'm afraid we've hired a coach in training. His recruiting has been good but not what I expected from all that I read upon his hire. I do not believe that he is a good game day football coach. I get frustrated watching the same fundamental mistakes with clock management, too many men on the field, lack of discipline causing penalties, etc. but that doesn't mean that I want him to fail. I said it early on and still believe it to be true that Collins will certainly recruit better than CPJ but will not win as many games. Time will tell and as a Tech fan, I will be happy if I am wrong.
 
rghoae said:
Morgan Burnett - 770 NFL tackles. Started 112 regular NFL games and 11 postseason games
Swilling - Played the NFL for 1 season
Balkcom - Didn’t play in the NFL from what I can tell
Bostic - He was part of a few NFL teams but not a big enough part for NFL.com to have any stats on him
Burton - Didnt play in the NFL

Im not gonna continue. Burnett is way better than the first 4 players you’ve mentioned. No point in spending time on the rest.
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I saw Marvious Toast Hester on the list and realized this was not a serious attempt to discuss.
 
cbee said:
No. I want Collins to be successful. I do not understand why everyone cannot be in the GT camp and not divided with loyalties for one coach or another. I liked CPJ. Saw him do things at Tech I never thought I'd see again. Doesn't mean that I want Collins to fail. With that said, I'm afraid we've hired a coach in training. His recruiting has been good but not what I expected from all that I read upon his hire. I do not believe that he is a good game day football coach. I get frustrated watching the same fundamental mistakes with clock management, too many men on the field, lack of discipline causing penalties, etc. but that doesn't mean that I want him to fail. I said it early on and still believe it to be true that Collins will certainly recruit better than CPJ but will not win as many games. Time will tell and as a Tech fan, I will be happy if I am wrong.
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I agree with all that. But, what were better options? Retread NFL guys that no kid in high school ever heard of? Or coordinators from bigger schools who would be here a year or two and then leave? Collins is absolutely a coach in training. We’ve all seen the the cluster of time management and men running of the field at the snap. This year the focus is on Collins. Even though I don’t think we’ll win more than 5 games, I don’t care about wins and losses. I want to see a team that executes better, makes smart decisions, and doesn’t play dumb. If Collins can show that I think there will be some good days ahead. If we see the same unprepared stuff we saw way too many times last year then I’ll hate it for him. I believe he truly loves GT and is all in on being a coach in his hometown so I’m pulling for him. This year is all about him. And if it doesn’t work out there will always be plenty of retreads we can hire to be a 7-5 team every year.
 
cbee said:
Reading how little talent he left confirms that he must have been one of the greatest coaches in the history of the game. He took that talent and won 7 games before his retirement.
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Not before his team completely quit on him in that loser bowl game. Even they were tired of 30 QB keepers per game.
 
ibeeballin said:
UGA ran down our throat was more run fits than jimmy & joes. They ran inside zone scheme that took advantage of cutback lanes. Back side was out of position
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And yet conversely, a mutt defense that was so bad that it fired its DC post season just completely shut down PJ's mighty TO in 09. What a joke. The mighty PJ TO was great at churning yards against the cupcakes but didn't fare much better than other offenses against the elite teams we faced, like Iowa, LSU, and Duke.
 
ibeeballin said:
UGA ran down our throat was more run fits than jimmy & joes. They ran inside zone scheme that took advantage of cutback lanes. Back side was out of position
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Why was that? Was there no film on it? Did the DC drop the ball? Did we adjust during the game?
 
We all know the TO works. The problem CPJ had was the talented players did not want to play in it because of the propaganda. If 4 stars wanted to play in it CPJ would have had GT in the top 15 every year with multiple top 10’s.

CPJ has no one to blame but himself for not fighting against the narrative. That narrative against the TO hurt recruiting high level players on offense and defense and left CPJ‘s later teams a shell of his early teams. The only reason it lasted as long as it did was because Justin Thomas wanted to play QB and saved our bacon on break down plays. I hope when I get to heaven I can sit on my cloud and watch an Alabama level talented team run the TO. And because I know football history, at some point in the next 20 years some young coach will amass a talented roster and start “experimenting” with under center formations, etc and when it succeeds the narrative will switch back in its favor as “unique” and “putting the defense on its heels”.
 
ScionOfSouthland said:
Was that the year we got something like 5 turnovers in the first 5 minutes against Pitt and the game was over before most people got to their seats?
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I was at that game with my daughter - drove over from DC. It was 28-0 within 6 minutes. If I live to be as old as coit, I'll never see another play like the one where DJ White chased down James Conner from 10 yards behind to punch the ball out to create the first touchback. The most mind boggling 6 minutes of football I have ever seen. Pitt fans were just speechless.
 
ibeeballin said:
Not sure really. I just remember expecting the cutback and stopped being aggressive, then boom! Caleb King goes for 75yds
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Isn't that the game where Sony Michele ran it like 100 times for six yards a pop? I've been to a lot of CoFH games but that's probably the most frustrating. I recall an interview with Richt afterwards where he said when they were game planning, they didn't think Tech could stop a power running game and, as usual, he was right.

Reminded me of the game we played at Syracuse when O'Leary was HC. Syracuse's HC said something that GT was a soft ACC team so O'Leary ran Joe Burns about 100 straight times and we just beat them to death. Last play of the game, we were on the Syracuse one yard line and we just laid the ball on the ground and walked off the field. I loved O'Leary.
 
00Burdell said:
Isn't that the game where Sony Michele ran it like 100 times for six yards a pop? I've been to a lot of CoFH games but that's probably the most frustrating. I recall an interview with Richt afterwards where he said when they were game planning, they didn't think Tech could stop a power running game and, as usual, he was right.

Reminded me of the game we played at Syracuse when O'Leary was HC. Syracuse's HC said something that GT was a soft ACC team so O'Leary ran Joe Burns about 100 straight times and we just beat them to death. Last play of the game, we were on the Syracuse one yard line and we just laid the ball on the ground and walked off the field. I loved O'Leary.
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You know why Richt didn't think Tech could stop a power running game...jimmies and joes. We fired Wommack and discovered it wasn't an X's and O's problem after all.
 
BuzzLaw said:
I’ll never understand the hate on a GT coach that brought us some of the best seasons we’ve had over the last 30 years.

GC should be judged on his own merits, not by tearing down PJ.
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We are in critical need of a winning season to change the narrative. Right now people are desperate for a scape goat and CPJ is the most handy.
 
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