QuadF
Dodd-Like
- Joined
- May 23, 2011
- Messages
- 11,886
This is full of so much exaggeration it’s comical. Here are Sylvester Crooms recruiting classes at MSU per Rivals.com:
2004 - 62
2005 - 33
2006 - 46
2007 - 39
2008 - 44
As previously pointed out, here are Mullen’s recruiting classes at MSU per Rivals.com:
2009 - 25
2010 - 38
2011 - 44
2012 - 30
2013 - 26
2014 - 37
2015 - 16
2016 - 34
So Mullen finished with 2 Top 25 classes, one of which was the transition class he inherited when he was hired post Sylvester Croom in 2009. The other was in 2015. So where is the huge jump in recruiting from Croom to Mullen again?
Joe Morehead who lasted 3 recruiting cycles after Mullen went to UF had 2 Top 25 classes (25, 23). The Pirate has had 3 classes at MSU (26, 26, 25).
Mullen has recruited and coached up Prescott. Tebow was the #1 QB in the country per 1 service, Stafford the other. Tebow went to UF over Alabama due to Urban.
If you look at McElwain vs Mullen, the classes look pretty much the same.
McElwain:
2015 - 23
2016 - 9
2017 - 9
Mullen:
2018 - 17
2019 - 8
2020 - 7
UF recruits itself. Please stop making it into something it’s not. And if you look at the current UF team there are holes all over the place. So Mullen had plenty of misses to that “elite” recruiting you keep trying to point out during his short time in Gainesville.
Both Felipe Franks (transferred to Arky) and Kyle Trask (backup in Tampa) were signed by McElwain. Mullen signed Emory Jones (now at Arizona), Jalon Jones, Anthony Richardson (current QB).
So based on the facts presented, he did a great job with Prescott and Trask. Other than that, not much to show for.
Mullen is a quality coach, but MSU and UF aren’t GT. MSU has no limits when it comes to recruiting and he produced 1 Top 25 class. That’s no different than what Collins did at GT. I seriously doubt Mulllen would do any thi eater than Top 35-45.
I already broke down the recruiting rankings per 247. I suppose we can argue over which service is more accurate, but they seem to think there was an obvious improvement at MSU and 4/8 in the top-25:
2004 - 56
2005 - 27
2006 - 40
2007 - 34
2008 - 53
2009 - 18
2010 - 30
2011 - 41
2012 - 22
2013 - 24
2014 - 36
2015 - 18
2016 - 29
Regarding UF:
I didn't say he improved recruiting at UF, just that he did what he needed to do despite the rhetoric. You seem to be simultaneously arguing that UF recruits by itself so he doesn't get any credit, but despite the 2 top-10 classes Mullen actually can't recruit because the next coach is running the team into the ground? That's a strange position to take after seeing how successfully our last coach could squander talent. Franks was McElwain's QB. While Mullen didn't sign Trask, he's the one who developed him into a good QB.
FTRS has some good data demonstrating how he has improved teams.
Head Coaching Candidate Profiles: Dan Mullen
Don’t roll your eyes; Mullen can coach ball
www.fromtherumbleseat.com