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SEC's Sankey feels 'sadness' as Pac-12 dissolves

SEC commissioner Greg Sankey said watching the Pac-12 dissolve to four teams in the latest round of conference realignment "wasn't one of those great feelings to work in college sports."
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He is not innocent - his raid of Texas and Oklahoma started this last round and he deserves some blame for destroying the PAC12 and college football conferences.
 
79tech said:
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SEC's Sankey feels 'sadness' as Pac-12 dissolves

SEC commissioner Greg Sankey said watching the Pac-12 dissolve to four teams in the latest round of conference realignment "wasn't one of those great feelings to work in college sports."
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He is not innocent - his raid of Texas and Oklahoma started this last round and he deserves some blame for destroying the PAC12 and college football conferences.
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The unjustified arrogance of UT (Texas) was the first domino.
Their ridiculous expectations/demands of the Longhorn Network began all of this.
That is the second time (and some argue third time) they have destroyed a conference. Will the SEC be next?
 
Here is a fix for football only. Create a West coast pod making the following ACC football only members.

1. Stanford
2. Cal
3. San Diego State
4. Washington State
5. Oregon State

With ND playing a partial schedule now, this allows the 5 West Coast schools to play within their region including 1-2 OOC local games + 6 traditional ACC teams. So Stanford could still play USC, ND annually in addition to the 4 other West coast pod + 6 other ACC games.

Reports are however Stanford is leaning more towards going the Independent route.
 
79tech said:
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SEC's Sankey feels 'sadness' as Pac-12 dissolves

SEC commissioner Greg Sankey said watching the Pac-12 dissolve to four teams in the latest round of conference realignment "wasn't one of those great feelings to work in college sports."
www.espn.com www.espn.com

He is not innocent - his raid of Texas and Oklahoma started this last round and he deserves some blame for destroying the PAC12 and college football conferences.
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USC & UCLA left due to financial issues at both schools. Larry Scott followed by George Kliavkoff had 1 goal to accomplish. Fix the media rights deal. Larry Scott refused to, Kliavkoff moved too slow when negotiating the next TV deal. Once USC left with UCLA following behind, there was a chance to save the conference. Kliavkoff was outworked by the new B12 commish Brett Yormark who refused to be the one to lose his conference when he took over and Texas & OU had announced their departure. Yormark got expansion rolling and negotiated a new media deal. Kliavkoff didn’t like the initial deal from ESPN, and in the end the Apple+ deal was $23 million per school with sub based incentives. It was a disaster GOR he tried to convince the schools to sign last Friday. And the 2 schools that didn’t even join the Zoom meeting……Oregon & Washington. When they found out ahead of time about the proposed deal, they begged the B1G for an invite even though they won’t receive the full pay as members for years.

It’s all about making sure you’re not left behind at this point. So for as much as I thought FSU may truly pay the massive buyout + losing TV rights for a period of time, they won’t make such a dumb move. I’m sure the SEC would pick them up, but they’ll create more debt than its worth when comparing it how much they think they’ll lose financially vs UF in the coming years.
 
nfGoldmember said:
Other's have made this point but I don't see how this translates into growing or even maintaining the pie. Won't you lose a high percentage of the fans of the teams that are left out?
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How many fans do the left out teams really have?
 
GTCrew4b said:
How many fans do the left out teams really have?
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The question is how many fans will still watch cfb (and how much) if their school gets left out. MTSU is the largest school in TN. Do they just become Vols fans? Do they tune in casually to watch their new team or is it a weekly thing.

GaSo is a good example. How many GaSo fans also watched uga? When GaSo moved up, how much did that affect uga’s ratings? My guess is not much. There is a difference between having virtually no chance at a title and being outright excluded.

Shrinking the fbs to 64 teams probably doesn’t drop the viewership of those 64 teams, but they won’t have to share any revenue with the excluded 64.
 
stinger78 said:
And so now we get to the core of the matter. Sankey is not going to propose that the SECheat get fewer slots in the CFP. This is all about creating and institutionalizing the best road to a perpetual college football championship for a handful of SECheat teams.
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True, but you can't blame Greg Sankey or the SEC. He's no different than countless CEO's that have a fiscal responsibility and are driven solely by share holder value. Would've been nice if the ACC had smelled what the SEC was cooking before they started their feast.

The problem is there is no governing body overseeing what is "best" for CFB as a whole. The NCAA is toothless and likely corrupt. As many coaches are now publicly pointing out, "TV" money rules college football. The powers above that, namely congress, is somehow worse and can't govern anything as our country (and the world) falls to pieces and suffers the same problems. Lack of leadership. Lack of accountability. Lack of oversight. Lack of understanding. Lack of concern. Lack of integrity. Lack of wisdom.

It would seem college football has become a microcosm for what is going on more broadly today. We can hope that Batman comes and sets it all straight for us, but history suggests otherwise.
 
Buzzilla said:
True, but you can't blame Greg Sankey or the SEC. He's no different than countless CEO's that have a fiscal responsibility and are driven solely by share holder value. Would've been nice if the ACC had smelled what the SEC was cooking before they started their feast.

The problem is there is no governing body overseeing what is "best" for CFB as a whole. The NCAA is toothless and likely corrupt. As many coaches are now publicly pointing out, "TV" money rules college football. The powers above that, namely congress, is somehow worse and can't govern anything as our country (and the world) falls to pieces and suffers the same problems. Lack of leadership. Lack of accountability. Lack of oversight. Lack of understanding. Lack of concern. Lack of integrity. Lack of wisdom.

It would seem college football has become a microcosm for what is going on more broadly today. We can hope that Batman comes and sets it all straight for us, but history suggests otherwise.
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Hmm. Well, at least Battman stopped off at GA Tech first. We'll see how straight he sets it.
 
Expanding the ACC would be rewarding ineptitude. Just blow this thing up and let the chips fall where they may. At least then we will be in a league that knows what it’s doing. Emphasis on league, not conference.

Would you rather look back 10 years from now and be in the B1G or Big 12, or would you rather be playing East Directional State in a glorified G5 conference.
 
jts1207 said:
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Great. So ND is ready to throw in their football media rights with the other 63 teams so we can all play in the same “division”? If so (and if the SEC and B1G are in), it’s perfect.

But it won’t happen. It’s like any of the other impossible solutions offered on CFB message boards right now.
 
jts1207 said:
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and since we're creating a semi-pro division-less league, need to add in salary caps for coaches and players, and a draft.
everyone likes to think the free market approach will balance everything out, but i'm not sold. there needs to be a level of communism, or you lose parity. Without parity, the factories with largest fan bases will continue to amass all of the resources. and then there will only be a handful of teams all playing for title year in and year out, worse than it is now. that's no fun except for those handful of teams. the bottom 55 programs need to realize this and unionize before the top programs punch their tickets.
 
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