Expansion

andrew said:
I wouldn't be shocked if Clemson/FSU are preventing the ACC from making decent moves right now. I'm sure they want the conference to fail at this point.
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FSU isn’t some scorned ex-girlfriend. They just want to make $70 million per year while having a path to the national championship. If an expanded ACC gets there, they’ll take it.
 
Rumor I saw on another board yesterday was that GT is now part of the 8 teams looking at breaking the GOR.

Sounds like the kind of baseless rumor that starts from random jackass on the internet, afterall you would expect a rumor like that to come from a GT board, but since it’s about us figured I’d share anyway.
 
It’s how everything works on this website. Someone forms an opinion:

“It makes sense that GT would be attractive to the B1G because of the Atlanta TV market.”

Which then becomes a conclusion:

“I bet GT is trying to to break the GOR.”

This conclusion is posted to this website. Someone else argues against it but can’t prove it to be false (because there’s no proof for or against the random opinion). So this becomes

“Wow. It must be true!”

All of the conspiracy theories work this way.
 
MidnightJacket said:
Rumor I saw on another board yesterday was that GT is now part of the 8 teams looking at breaking the GOR.

Sounds like the kind of baseless rumor that starts from random jackass on the internet, afterall you would expect a rumor like that to come from a GT board, but since it’s about us figured I’d share anyway.
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Which board?
 
gtphd said:
It’s how everything works on this website. Someone forms an opinion:

“It makes sense that GT would be attractive to the B1G because of the Atlanta TV market.”

Which then becomes a conclusion:

“I bet GT is trying to to break the GOR.”

This conclusion is posted to this website. Someone else argues against it but can’t prove it to be false (because there’s no proof for or against the random opinion). So this becomes

“Wow. It must be true!”

All of the conspiracy theories work this way.
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One thing I always do to screen out extremely likely made up bullshit is to ask “is this coming from a WVU fan?” This particular rumor I saw on the Miami board, so again, TIFWIW.
 
Buzzilla said:
Why not Tulane?

Big city New Orleans TV market. Regional. Excellent academics. Growing and improving athletically. One of the coolest mascots ever.

How is Stanford or Cal a better choice?

THWC
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If we take cal/Stan then I think we will take Tulane, SMU for tv exposure reasons too.
 
gtphd said:
FSU isn’t some scorned ex-girlfriend. They just want to make $70 million per year while having a path to the national championship. If an expanded ACC gets there, they’ll take it.
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Agree with that. But I don't think an expanded ACC would give them that given the teams available.

At best it would do just enough to keep enough to keep the conference viable for most teams in it, while leaving FSU far from where they want to be. FSU is trying to get to eight votes, and this would move them in the opposite direction.
 
Buzzilla said:
This just doesn't make any sense to me. I just don't get expanding the ATLANTIC Coast Conference to include two teams somewhere between 2,000 and 3,000 miles away next to the Pacific Ocean.

Not to mention, it's pretty sad and desperate to pick up the last scraps left in the pizza box after everyone else has taken what they want.

I don't like it alt all. I don't think the culture of these two left coast schools fits the ACC either.

To Hell with California.
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They fit perfectly with UVA, UNC, Cuse, BC, and Duke
 
andrew said:
Agree with that. But I don't think an expanded ACC would give them that given the teams available.

At best it would do just enough to keep enough to keep the conference viable for most teams in it, while leaving FSU far from where they want to be.
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I agree with that. The ACC will be a very good tier 2 conference with much more money than tier 3. I believe GT should be happy with tier 2 right now. I get that FSU feels they should be tier 1.

About 2030 we’ll see another shake up. I hope that by then Key is winning consistently and we can make an argument for tier 1.
 
If tv money keeps tightening for cfb broadcasting as everyone is predicting, I could easily see espn, and nbc, fox etc eventually just dropping every Smaller conference and focusing all resources on SEC, BIG, and ND.
 
Wherever we end up, whether it's the ACC as it is, or the SEC, we need to be in a regional conference. I do not want to go to the BIG or be in some continental conference that spans 4 time zones. Last time I checked these athletes are still students and have to go to class. This isn't the NFL, MLS ,etc. What this has revealed is that these universities are just as greedy as TV. The kids and the fans are the biggest losers in the end.
 
Shouldn't the ACC have started thinking about this a couple of weeks ago when Colo,Az,AzST,Utah,Wash,Ore were still on the table?
Will ACC fans want a road trip to a place where one can legally defecate in the street?
The ACC's press conf should be almost as impactful as FSU's.
 
THWG247 said:
If tv money keeps tightening for cfb broadcasting as everyone is predicting, I could easily see espn, and nbc, fox etc eventually just dropping every Smaller conference and focusing all resources on SEC, BIG, and ND.
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It is possible we might be seeing the bubble popping right in front of us. The PAC 12 blowing up could be the sound of it popping. Nobody wanted to pay what the PAC 12 thought they deserved. There was no market for their prices. They couldn't justify the price for the limited demand.

You can make the argument that the product was the problem, i.e. PAC 12 football kind of sucks or the west coast time slots suck for more than half the country. Those points have validity but the market place spoke and said, "you're price is too high".

Additionally, as the broadcast rights holders try and squeeze more and more return out of their investment, the quality is arguably declining. Confusing conferences with non-regional appeal, loss of traditional rivalries, gross imbalances in program financial payoffs, and programs being left out in the cold.

People still love football and there will always be some demand for it, but the product is changing, the viewership is changing and they are tinkering with it to the point of threatening and diminishing the appeal.

This kind of thing happens all the time. Something is beloved and gets bought up by people who don't understand why it is beloved and in their ownership they decide to change it and then unintentionally destroy what made it great. Seems to be a recurring theme in modern times.

There will be a reckoning coming to all of this. There always is.
 
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