Fair Pay to Play Act

jts1207 said:
https://www.espn.com/college-sports...-gov-gavin-newsom-signs-law-fair-pay-play-act


Im sure this has been discussed but how the hell is this going to work.

Of course Lebrons bitch ass is babbling about this.
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I think this would stick a knife in GT's football program.
You can bet that Georgia, Bama and the schools that value football more than college education are not going to be outdone by schools from California that pull Georgia High School athletes out of Georgia and lure them away with $$$.
The laws WILL be changed in Georgia.
The Governor and lawmakers will lead the way, no if's and's or but's about it.
UGA = Win at all costs.
 
GTCrew said:
If the players get paid, then I'm pretty sure we truly will have to hang it up.

The current imbalance isnt good at all, but at least we have a chance.

If some idiot court rules for pay because the imbalance is unfair, then maybe we will get a minor league of football (and basketball) where the handful of schools with $200million budgets buy the best team they can buy and the rest of us restructure as a league of well funded club sport football (and basketball).
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Players already are getting paid. But certainly, the endorsement opportunity to be exploited by athletic depts that have lots of revenue would make the gulf between the haves and have nots wider than it already is.

A small chance. Every 4 or 5 years of a full recruiting cycle provided that GT has a really good QB and a top notch offensive play caller (at least in my lifetime).

I've wondered if/when that collegiate athletics drops the pretense of being amateur (for the $ sports, not the others), if it would result in a true semi-pro league and GT and others could form a separate league that really is amateur. However, would that be "well funded"? I'd still support GT and attend games, but I think that I'm in the minority here.
 
GT98 said:
Players already are getting paid. But certainly, the endorsement opportunity to be exploited by athletic depts that have lots of revenue would make the gulf between the haves and have nots wider than it already is.
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Bagmen money will go a lot farther when it gets written off as a business expense.

A small chance. Every 4 or 5 years of a full recruiting cycle provided that GT has a really good QB and a top notch offensive play caller (at least in my lifetime).

I've wondered if/when that collegiate athletics drops the pretense of being amateur (for the $ sports, not the others), if it would result in a true semi-pro league and GT and others could form a separate league that really is amateur. However, would that be "well funded"? I'd still support GT and attend games, but I think that I'm in the minority here.
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We will never get a playcaller if we have to bid millions for them. I am not saying I'm not ready to find out what happens after college football implodes into semipro and amateur.
 
Tampa Jacket said:
I think this would stick a knife in GT's football program.
You can bet that Georgia, Bama and the schools that value football more than college education are not going to be outdone by schools from California that pull Georgia High School athletes out of Georgia and lure them away with $$$.
The laws WILL be changed in Georgia.
The Governor and lawmakers will lead the way, no if's and's or but's about it.
UGA = Win at all costs.
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I am sad by these developments. Hopefully whatever happens is reasonable.
 
GTCrew said:
Bagmen money will go a lot farther when it gets written off as a business expense.


We will never get a playcaller if we have to bid millions for them. I am not saying I'm not ready to find out what happens after college football implodes into semipro and amateur.
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I agree with the bagman notion, which is why I think that the endorsement deal (if it catches on in other states--especially those with "Big State school U" that "fear" losing recruits/players to California schools) would make the uneven playing field even worse.

To clarify, I meant that (since I've been attending GT games '84), GT has been really good not only when it had a really good QB, but also with a terrific (for the most part) playcaller like Friedgen and Johnson), which helped to narrow the talent gap inherent against the big state schools on the schedule.

Sure. Again, I realize that I'm in the minority, but I would still attend/support GT athletics if there were a "semi-pro" league and whatever league GT was in. However, I wonder how economically viable such a league would be.
 
GT98 said:
Sure. Again, I realize that I'm in the minority, but I would still attend/support GT athletics if there were a "semi-pro" league and whatever league GT was in. However, I wonder how economically viable such a league would be.
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If the ACC broke off from the NCAA, it would be economically viable.
 
GT98 said:
I agree with the bagman notion, which is why I think that the endorsement deal (if it catches on in other states--especially those with "Big State school U" that "fear" losing recruits/players to California schools) would make the uneven playing field even worse.

To clarify, I meant that (since I've been attending GT games '84), GT has been really good not only when it had a really good QB, but also with a terrific (for the most part) playcaller like Friedgen and Johnson), which helped to narrow the talent gap inherent against the big state schools on the schedule.

Sure. Again, I realize that I'm in the minority, but I would still attend/support GT athletics if there were a "semi-pro" league and whatever league GT was in. However, I wonder how economically viable such a league would be.
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All depends on TV money not attendance. And don't bet that uga prospers in the semi pro league. Vandy, Kentucky, etc drop off their schedule. Every week, they play somebody on equal footing like Clemson, Bama, LSU, Texas, etc. TV money follows those games, but how many eyeballs? Lots of fans at schools that won't make the cut like I'm assuming South Carolina, North Carolina, VT, Syracuse, Nebraska, Illinois, Michigan State, Arizona, maybe even Tennessee. Something will come along to service the non-semi-pro league. I'd expect we could make a pretty good conference with those teams.
 
If the doors were truly wide open for players to go get all the money they could, do you think college football would fracture so that there was still a NCAA with "amateur" college football and then some other league that was basically semi-pro? I sort of think that regular college football would prevail but I could be wrong.

I expect that will not happen and the NCAA and football will muddle through with a lot of half measures.
 
ibeeballin said:
There is no such thing as "free" room, food, and board

Athletes provide a service. In exchange for that service they are compensated. If they don't provide the service, they don't get compensated.
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60,000 for school scholarship, plus room and board and food is ALL COVERED. Add stipends it’s like cutting a $100,000 check to Each Player. They don’t provide a service at all. They are living the dream with a full ride. It’s not a service for the fans, it’s for themselves.
 
If this happens, then why is a limit on number of years a player is eligible ok? Work on a phD in ditch digging for 7 years including a coloring book dissertation that takes three years to complete.
 
ramblinwise1 said:
So it sounds like an NCAA challenge to the CA law is inevitable. Fed courts could support the NCAA or open Pandora's box for pay everywhere. It seems impossible to speculate what will come out of this, but I'm not one to think the current situation is OK and doesn't need fixing. I've always been an advocate of breaking the non-compete of forcing NFL wannabees to play college ball.

I bet the NCAA approaches CA to see if they can craft some version of this that could be applied to all states via changes to NCAA rules. I believe CA delayed implementation of this for several years to get other states to join in. Lets hope that something better emerges from this but I'm all for busting up the NCAA racket.
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Why would the NCAA challenge a state law? They will just rule all California schools ineligible.
 
coit said:
Why would the NCAA challenge a state law? They will just rule all California schools ineligible.
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It would be a material change to TV contracts, allowing ESPN or CBS to get out of a contract or force a change in terms, especially in the contracts with the PAC-12.
 
floridajacket said:
It would be a material change to TV contracts, allowing ESPN or CBS to get out of a contract or force a change in terms, especially in the contracts with the PAC-12.
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No change to contracts. They can play the games all they want. Just won’t count for anything in the NCAA’s eyes.
 
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