Fire TStan

ee8384 said:
Only the ones you post in.

You really went back to a post made in Nov 2021 so you have something to whine about?

Go ahead and give me my poo and move along.
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Except I never posted in this thread until today, moron. Almost two months after you douched it up.

Tell me - is there some secret contest between you and The Jacket
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to see who can be the biggest ööööing idiot posting here now that PressManCoverageMan has been vanished?
 
CarsonNewmanJacket said:
Should’ve just kidnapped Whiz
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How many other colleges have tried to convince Ken Whisenhunt to come coach for them? That guy knows nothing about today’s version of college football. He’s never recruited a player in his life, and probably doesn’t even know 3 high school coaches in Georgia. Collins was a bad decision. KW would have been another bad choice. 3, 4, 5 win seasons max.
 
Tampa Jacket said:
Hindsight is 20/20. At the time Collins said all the right things. His vision about promoting 404 as a recruiting tool is a good one.
Who would you hired instead? And please don’t tell me Jeff Monken. The 3 option had gone as far as it was going to go. No way that guy would do one bit better than Paul Johnson, who made GT irrelevant by the end of his career.
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Who would you hired instead?

I LOVE this question. The sports debate equivalent of "have you stopped beating your wife, yet?"

If the person replying names somone who has not subsequently proven to be great, you just say that person was a loser, too, and a bad choice. If the person replying names someone who has subsequently proven to be great, then you say that person would have never taken the job, Tech could never get someone like that, blah, blah, blah. This is the thinking that sees men wind up married to ugly fat women with bad tempers.

If you think the best that Georgia Tech can ever hope to hire are loser coaches who give us nevereding 3 win seasons, then why don't you just come out and say it and stop with this passive-aggressive "who would YOU have hired" bull shit.
 
1982Jacket said:
Who would you hired instead?

I LOVE this question. The sports debate equivalent of "have you stopped beating your wife, yet?"

If the person replying names somone who has not subsequently proven to be great, you just say that person was a loser, too, and a bad choice. If the person replying names someone who has subsequently proven to be great, then you say that person would have never taken the job, Tech could never get someone like that, blah, blah, blah. This is the thinking that sees men wind up married to ugly fat women with bad tempers.

If you think the best that Georgia Tech can ever hope to hire are loser coaches who give us nevereding 3 win seasons, then why don't you just come out and say it and stop with this passive-aggressive "who would YOU have hired" bull öööö.
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All I’m saying is that Collins was the best choice on a short list. Nobody could have asked anticipated that he did not know how to coach a lick. He went to a bowl game at Temple.He was not that bad of a hire. It’s only in hindsight.

Look how many other schools with way larger budgets than GT has that have failed repeatedly to hire winners—-Tennessee, Florida, Florida State.

You guys are being too hard on TStan. That’s what I’m saying.
 
Tampa Jacket said:
How many other colleges have tried to convince Ken Whisenhunt to come coach for them? That guy knows nothing about today’s version of college football. He’s never recruited a player in his life, and probably doesn’t even know 3 high school coaches in Georgia. Collins was a bad decision. KW would have been another bad choice. 3, 4, 5 win seasons max.
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So you’re telling me Bellichieck wouldn’t be a good college coach because he hasn’t recruited? I get it if you say college guys can’t coach NFL, but you can take a low level NFL guy and he can coach the hell out of a college team.
 
CarsonNewmanJacket said:
So you’re telling me Bellichieck wouldn’t be a good college coach because he hasn’t recruited? I get it if you say college guys can’t coach NFL, but you can take a low level NFL guy and he can coach the hell out of a college team.
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Like Chan Gailey who managed to only score 3 points against Wake Forest with one of the best offensive players to play the game in the past 20 years, and never beat UGA? Please.
 
Olgoldandwhie said:
I would dare say anyone we hired could have won 9 games in 3 years.
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Again… Hindsight.
But he was the best candidate on a short list. He was/is a big-time recruiter. That’s what we really needed.
coaches were not lining up to take that job. It was going to be as much of a complete rebuild as any school in history.
You’re not going to convince me Stansberry made a mistake by giving him a seven-year contract. I think he had no other option. We didn’t have a bunch of money to throw at a coach. Time was the only thing we had to give.
 
Tampa Jacket said:
Again… Hindsight.
But he was the best candidate on a short list. He was/is a big-time recruiter. That’s what we really needed.
coaches were not lining up to take that job. It was going to be as much of a complete rebuild as any school in history.
You’re not going to convince me Stansberry made a mistake by giving him a seven-year contract. I think he had no other option. We didn’t have a bunch of money to throw at a coach. Time was the only thing we had to give.
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Are you a GTAA plant? Your schtick is to repeat every talking point and excuse we've heard over the last 3 years. Nobody's buying it.
 
GT flunkout said:
Are you a GTAA plant? Your schtick is to repeat every talking point and excuse we've heard over the last 3 years. Nobody's buying it.
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"We didn’t have a bunch of money to throw at a coach" right after spewing diarrhea about an additional 3 guaranteed years we plopped down into his lap.
 
Tampa Jacket said:
Again… Hindsight.
But he was the best candidate on a short list. He was/is a big-time recruiter. That’s what we really needed.
coaches were not lining up to take that job. It was going to be as much of a complete rebuild as any school in history.
You’re not going to convince me Stansberry made a mistake by giving him a seven-year contract. I think he had no other option. We didn’t have a bunch of money to throw at a coach. Time was the only thing we had to give.
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We had proven coaches like monken that wouldn't have had the transition issue. He chose to go with the focus on recruiting & defense (Both areas cpj could've been better) and tossed out everything we were good at. It was a mistake, but why shouldnt he be held responsible for his mistake? He chose to double down instead of fixing the mistake.
 
Tampa Jacket said:
Like Chan Gailey who managed to only score 3 points against Wake Forest with one of the best offensive players to play the game in the past 20 years, and never beat UGA? Please.
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Wow look at that, one example… can’t do much when you have the most inept quarterback to ever play football.
 
CarsonNewmanJacket said:
So you’re telling me Bellichieck wouldn’t be a good college coach because he hasn’t recruited? I get it if you say college guys can’t coach NFL, but you can take a low level NFL guy and he can coach the hell out of a college team.
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I think a NFL guy could do well coaching a college team. However the learning curve is awfully steep. Football is football but the nuances of the college game requires a different skill set.
 
PM Gold said:
I think a NFL guy could do well coaching a college team. However the learning curve is awfully steep. Football is football but the nuances of the college game requires a different skill set.
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Going from NFL to college isn’t like going from college to NFL. College you can stack your team with as many great players as you want. The NFL needs strategy because you can only get so many good players on your team. That’s why people like Saban, Kelly, Holtz, Spurrier, Kiffin, etc. all came to realize quickly. But you can take guys like Belli, Reid, Carroll (without the recruiting allegations), and even low level NFL guys like BOB, Nagy, etc. and they can bring success to college.
 
CarsonNewmanJacket said:
Going from NFL to college isn’t like going from college to NFL. College you can stack your team with as many great players as you want. The NFL needs strategy because you can only get so many good players on your team. That’s why people like Saban, Kelly, Holtz, Spurrier, Kiffin, etc. all came to realize quickly. But you can take guys like Belli, Reid, Carroll (without the recruiting allegations), and even low level NFL guys like BOB, Nagy, etc. and they can bring success to college.
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I agree with you. Saban said as much in one of his interviews that it's easier to recruit players than to be hampered with a QB with a big contract.
I think Chan started to figure out this problem but by the time he did the fanbase became frustrated with him.
Getting back to Fire TStan I think his support of Geoff and the financial straits of the GTAA leaves many of us wondering about him.
 
Tampa Jacket said:
Again… Hindsight.
But he was the best candidate on a short list. He was/is a big-time recruiter. That’s what we really needed.
coaches were not lining up to take that job. It was going to be as much of a complete rebuild as any school in history.
You’re not going to convince me Stansberry made a mistake by giving him a seven-year contract. I think he had no other option. We didn’t have a bunch of money to throw at a coach. Time was the only thing we had to give.
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Revisionist history? We didn’t put any effort into a search.
 
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