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does ONE GAME make a coach?

well lets fire Beamer for that show that West Va put on VA Tech

We should also fire Stoops for losing to Okie St for 2 years straight when they clearly had the better team

How bout USC's coach for letting a VERY WEAK California team slap them down.

and of course THE BIGGEST upset of the day yesterday was Clem's son overcoming a 17pt underdog status to beat the mighty # 3 F$U

we also should fire Fridge....how could he let a team that scored just 7pts stop his mighty offense

lets also fire Grobe who lost to a pathetic NC team that we will probably beat this weak

Lets fire all these coaches and bring in someone that will not let this type of stuff happen.

you people are KIDDING yourself

I am happy Roof has done a good job but come find me in a year and lets see what the score is
 
law, none of those examples apply to CCG. What some, NOT me for now, are saying is that yesterday has to be taken in context with: ugag'02, SVb(sic)'02, Clemson'03,Vandy'03, and now Duke'03...ok? Beeeg difference from Coker, Beamer, and B.Bowden.

There are those among the FOCER's that would have you believe that CCG with Oklahoma's players would be having the same success as Stoops. Me thinks not a chance in hades. THWG
 
My feelings 24 hours after Duke debacle:

1. Surprized by Duke W- no I expected and had prepared my psyche for a loss. Duke has been playing well under CTR. However, I was shocked by the margin of victory for Duke. I am disappointed with everything about the game from GT's perspective.

2. My prognosis about the remainder of the season is guarded hope.
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Originally posted by law_bee:
does ONE GAME make a coach?

well lets fire Beamer for that show that West Va put on VA Tech

We should also fire Stoops for losing to Okie St for 2 years straight when they clearly had the better team

How bout USC's coach for letting a VERY WEAK California team slap them down.

and of course THE BIGGEST upset of the day yesterday was Clem's son overcoming a 17pt underdog status to beat the mighty # 3 F$U

we also should fire Fridge....how could he let a team that scored just 7pts stop his mighty offense

lets also fire Grobe who lost to a pathetic NC team that we will probably beat this weak

Lets fire all these coaches and bring in someone that will not let this type of stuff happen.

you people are KIDDING yourself

I am happy Roof has done a good job but come find me in a year and lets see what the score is
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">law_bee, I thought at first you forgot to mention Lary Coker of Miami, but that situation would refer to two games!
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LawBee, this isn't golf, but Chan and his backers consistently just walk away with "well, we should have had them ready". No mulligans.

What is your reasoning for this write-off?

Tired? We had two weeks off.
Talent? That wassn't the Oklahoma Sooners we were playing, it was Duke, beaten by everyone else in the conference the last three years.
Injuries? Same team we put on the field vs. Auburn and Maryland and State, those touted victories that FOCers are pointing out.
Special teams - Duke consistently starting out past the 40, Tech from inside the 20.
Offense - 17 points and sputtering.
Defense - What defense?
Motivation? Obvious to anyone there who wanted it more.
Game plan - A joke.

Every team is going to lose some every year. But this regime likes to do it in grand style. 51-7 to Georgia and 41 points to Duke.

No excuse.
 
what do you want CG to say?

answer this why did VA Tech lose to a pathetic West VA team by 21 pts when VT was # 3 in the country?

why did a # 3 F$U team lose to a pathetic clemson team that allowed wake forest to DESTROY them them 7 DAYS EARLIER?

how does # 2 Southern Cal lose to a sub.500 california team? which but for the losses above would have cost them a shot at a nat title?

all of those coaches are going to say their team was not prepared.

in fact you can cut and paste the comments, b/c they are always the same

the FACT IS we have won 4 games that we SHOULD NOT HAVE WON

DO I WISH THAT WE WOULD WIN EVERY GAME?

YES!

but show me one season in the last 30 years w/o a pathetic loss or tie?

most have 2+

go dig up Bobby Ross's comments after the UNC tie in '90, what do you think he said?

we lost A GAME, what does it matter what the coach says
 
Originally posted by law_bee:
what do you want CG to say?

answer this why did VA Tech lose to a pathetic West VA team by 21 pts when VT was # 3 in the country?

why did a # 3 F$U team lose to a pathetic clemson team that allowed wake forest to DESTROY them them 7 DAYS EARLIER?

how does # 2 Southern Cal lose to a sub.500 california team? which but for the losses above would have cost them a shot at a nat title?

all of those coaches are going to say their team was not prepared.

in fact you can cut and paste the comments, b/c they are always the same

the FACT IS we have won 4 games that we SHOULD NOT HAVE WON

DO I WISH THAT WE WOULD WIN EVERY GAME?

YES!

but show me one season in the last 30 years w/o a pathetic loss or tie?

most have 2+

go dig up Bobby Ross's comments after the UNC tie in '90, what do you think he said?

we lost A GAME, what does it matter what the coach says
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">There's a BIG difference in your examples. Those coaches WON"T LET IT HAPPEN AGAIN.

It happens to Tech way too often.

Your example of 1990 makes my point exactly. I think he said his team was not prepared but it would not come out like that again. And you know what? They didn't come out unprepared again.

Why do you say we won 4 games we should not have won? I don't think the number is that high. However, even if it is, there is no reason for playing up for a big opponent and coming out completely flat when you play a lesser opponent. SVC, Clemson, and Duke all come to mind on that one.
 
what separates GOOD PLAYERS from average players is consistency.

The fact that we have a true freshman qb and a walkon running back means we are going to lose games that we should win.

It is unbelievable that we have beaten MD, NCST, and Auburn with this team. Until we get some playmakers in here you will not have consistency.

They say Grant is finally making strides and he will be a HUGE help next year. We may get Samson back and he could have been a difference maker this year as well.

We lost our whole Dline to flunkgate. IT IS NOT HARD to figure how this loss happenned.

It is a TRIBUTE to CG and staff to get us this far with our depleted ranks.

NEXT YEAR WILL BE MUCH BETTER

If you are so confident that Duke sux I suggest you call your bookie and MAKE A BIG bet on Clemson this week.
 
Originally posted by law_bee:
It is unbelievable that we have beaten MD, NCST, and Auburn with this team. Until we get some playmakers in here you will not have consistency.

It is hard for me to believe that we have beaten those teams. However, we could NOT have done so without playmakers. I can't believe you'd even say that.


We lost our whole Dline to flunkgate. IT IS NOT HARD to figure how this loss happenned.

Actually, it is very hard for me to see how a team that beat AU, NC St, & Maryland because of STRONG DEFENSE could give up 41 points to Duke. I could care less about depth in this case - there is no excuse for losing to Duke.


If you are so confident that Duke sux I suggest you call your bookie and MAKE A BIG bet on Clemson this week.

I would do that but I think Clemson is atrocious as well. I think the smart bet is taking the under.
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FW, I disagree on game plan. We moved the ball at will against Duke...what we had was too many mistakes by our offensive players. Game plan was fine.

Defensive play was very bad obviously. I am at a loss to figure out whether there was something wrong with the plan or just execution. We seemed to have guys in position, but nobody made the tackle. Did we really not believe they would keep running the ball? Just baffles me.

I do agree with whoever made the comment that our playmakers didn't make plays. Not saying we don't have any playmakers, but our LBs for example just didn't get it done. On offense we had opportunities to make plays that could have turned the game around and nobody got it done.

ST - kick returns and coverage was very bad. I'm amazed that we could be so bad at both.
 
Be careful what you type on here LawB...someone will archive it and use it against you in a thread in the near future.

I think that it is very hard to base one's livelihood on 18-23 year olds performing at a high level over a 16 week period. You are going to have highs/lows and in-betweens. We are not good enough to have a bad day and beat many people.

I am also tired of people referring to PJ as a walk-on. The kid was recruited to come here and there are other scholarship guys who can't beat him out. Last time I checked, he was leading the conference. That is truly a lame excuse for our lack of offense.

Also your first point on Beamer...he averages 9 wins a year since CDB left. He gets grace.

Stoops is on his way to a second NC game against USC. Grace again.

Clemson worked us, we played FSU tight; therefore, Clemson should beat FSU (slippery rock for national championship theory)

I also opened the paper and found that none of the teams we have beaten are ranked, so my point is "It isn't how you start, it is how you finish"

After three more games, we can look over everything and see exactly where we are and look to where we are going.
 
I want someone to tell me the last time a team was successful with a TRUE FRESHMAN qb.

Nothing against PJ I know he plays hard however we would be a different team with samson in there. I would like to see PJ in a 2back offense utilizing his blocking/running abilities.

You know that they would have fired Beamer if it were not for Braine's support.

You can slice or dice it but after our # 1 WR we probably do not have any WR's that would get on the field for a top 25 or top ACC program. When you have a True Freshmand at QB it is a rebuilding year. That is common sense. Hopefully we can still make a bowl, but who was expecting a 10win season with a true freshman QB?
 
Originally posted by General Wood:
I am also tired of people referring to PJ as a walk-on. The kid was recruited to come here and there are other scholarship guys who can't beat him out. Last time I checked, he was leading the conference. That is truly a lame excuse for our lack of offense.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Moreover, our Freshman QB that people are using as an excuse happens to have BEATEN OUT A 5TH YEAR SENIOR.

It's not like he was our only option and we were forced to start a freshman. Nope, he earned the job and I don't think we should use him as an excuse either.

Lack of preparation is a big reason why we got hamered by Clemson and Duke. It had nothing to do with a freshman QB and a walk-on RB.
 
ARE YOU SAYING AJ SHOULD START OVER BALL?

I repeat a TRUE FRESHMAN starting QB is a rebuilding year. NUFF SAID!

you play with the players you have and on paper we ARE STILL BIG TIME OVERACHIEVERS!
 
because CG has been able to coach the player up DO YOU PEOPLE THINK WE HAVE ALL-AMERICANS here?

take the time to look at WR's and RB's on other teams and tell me who would not start on our club (take Freddie out of mix of course)

CG has taken a paper thin team and stretched it to the limit. EVERY team we have beaten has more talent than us except for VANDY and WAKE!
 
My point is that on paper, our offense should be better than last year. Better QB, better line, etc. Unfortunately we don't play on paper. I like the points Bbad made about Gailey's lessoned learned as HC of the Cowboys.

Chris Leake is doing pretty well, and I seem to remember Zeier doing pretty well also as a true freshman.

I not looking to get anyone fired, but something is amiss with the offense.
 
I will make it simple for you

Do you think Duke's RB would start for us?

would Wake's RB start for us?

would Clemsons WR's start for us?

LOOK AT THE SKILL positions around the league and you know we are shorthanded.

WE HAVE FRESHMEN PLAYING ON THE D-LINE! Show me one other program that is doing that right now.

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Originally posted by law_bee:
I will make it simple for you

Do you think Duke's RB would start for us?

would Wake's RB start for us?

would Clemsons WR's start for us?

LOOK AT THE SKILL positions around the league and you know we are shorthanded.

WE HAVE FRESHMEN PLAYING ON THE D-LINE! Show me one other program that is doing that right now.

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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">I guess you've missed my point. I'm very impressed with how we've done overall this year. However, losing to Duke is totally unacceptable. Getting blown out by Duke (and Clemson) is an entirely different level of anacceptable.

Yes we are undermanned, but doesn't it frustrate you that these guys can be coached up one week against a good team but then come out completely unprepared against the worst team in the conference, AFTER A BYE WEEK???????????
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Originally posted by General Wood:
My point is that on paper, our offense should be better than last year. Better QB, better line, etc. Unfortunately we don't play on paper. I like the points Bbad made about Gailey's lessoned learned as HC of the Cowboys.

Chris Leake is doing pretty well, and I seem to remember Zeier doing pretty well also as a true freshman.

I not looking to get anyone fired, but something is amiss with the offense.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Better QB?

Chris Leak Do you remember the "BERLIN WALL"-- that was the line that was recruited for Brock Berlin they said it was the best line recruits EVER IN THE HISTORY OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL! Those guys are SR's this year!

Reggie is running for his life half the time he drops back.

Chris Leak had the benefit of MORE PRACTICE time and a BETTER O-LINE and BETTER RB'S and BETTER WRS. All that makes Chris Leak do better, but did you watch the Miami/UF game? or the Ole Miss game?

Chris Leak has had his problems too.

OUR LINE IS NOT BETTER THIS YEAR either. The line has fallen off from where it was a couple of years ago.
 
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