How long does it take to install an Offense?

BuzzLaw said:
But by week 1, we looked like we knew what we were doing (even though we didn’t know much and still fumbled a good bit).
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I don't know man. Those Boston College and Virginia Tech games were rough on offense
 
GTWannaBee said:
If the offense is demonstrably better and the defense remains the same, we still win 6 games.
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Defense gave up 40-plus points five times last year.
Taking Kennesaw out of the equation, the offense would need to double its average output from a year ago on a weekly basis to top that kind of craptastic defense.
 
swampsting said:
Defense gave up 40-plus points five times last year.
Taking Kennesaw out of the equation, the offense would need to double its average output from a year ago on a weekly basis to top that kind of craptastic defense.
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Depends on how we quantify "demonstrably better" but lets say it's at least 10 ppg with no change to the defense.

10 points beats:
Miami
VPISU
UVA
Clemson

That'd be 7 wins for the 2021 season.
 
Diseqc said:
I don't think any "big time" head coach is coming here. We're not that attractive and don't have the money to pay all that much.

Closest to a big name we could get is Mullen. And even he is probably out of reach.
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We weren't an attractive option converting from the 3O, but I think we're going to look much better the next time we go fishing for a coach, whether that's at the end of this year or down the road. It's been reported that other coaches have been sniffing around the program already.

Paying for a prominent name for a HC I think we can swing, our problem is putting in the money to get the right assistants to support the program.

I think Mullen is sitting tight for another opportunity, I could see him ending up at GT. Lower end SEC west programs aren't exactly a cake walk, GT has its own issues, but the opportunity to win big is here if you bring in the right staff.
 
Diseqc said:
Depends on how we quantify "demonstrably better" but lets say it's at least 10 ppg with no change to the defense.

10 points beats:
Miami
VPISU
UVA
Clemson

That'd be 7 wins for the 2021 season.
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I don’t think +10 beats uva. They were absolutely playing prevent to end the game (and it worked).

But your point stands, we had so close games and a little bit of improvement could have swung a lot of games.
 
Diseqc said:
It's likely the offense will be demonstrably better this year and it'll be all for naught. The defense will continue to do Thacker type things and the entire staff will be washed away in the aftermath.
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No one likes to acknowledge this, but we were middle of the pack last year with Sims. I think we averaged something close to 30 PPG when he started. Our stinkers came at the hands of Yates save the KSU game. Sure, Patenaude deserved to get canned, but give him a healthy Sims again this year and he's likely putting 30+ on the board each week. So the question is, what's it gonna take for Long to be seen as an obvious upgrade? If he has Sims all year, I think it would have to be 35 PPG. Do you guys realize that would have put us at #3 or #4 in the conference last year? How likely do you think that is?

My point is our success this year likely comes from improvements on D and not O. If you're scoring 30 PPG with a decent defense you will win more than you lose.
 
originalwombat said:
No one likes to acknowledge this, but we were middle of the pack last year with Sims. I think we averaged something close to 30 PPG when he started. Our stinkers came at the hands of Yates save the KSU game. Sure, Patenaude deserved to get canned, but give him a healthy Sims again this year and he's likely putting 30+ on the board each week. So the question is, what's it gonna take for Long to be seen as an obvious upgrade? If he has Sims all year, I think it would have to be 35 PPG. Do you guys realize that would have put us at #3 or #4 in the conference last year? How likely do you think that is?

My point is our success this year likely comes from improvements on D and not O. If you're scoring 30 PPG with a decent defense you will win more than you lose.
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True, but a lot of those points with Sims were in the first and 4th quarter of games, if my recollection is right. It's like he would script a couple good drives to open the game and then have a dry spell for a couple quarters, then score some in garbage time. I guess the point is that our ppg last year was a bit misleading and we have significant room for improvement on both sides.
 
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swampsting said:
Defense gave up 40-plus points five times last year.
Taking Kennesaw out of the equation, the offense would need to double its average output from a year ago on a weekly basis to top that kind of craptastic defense.
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Not to mention by possessing the ball for a longer period of time gives the opposing offense less time to score.
 
I think long is gonna take most of the long developing plays out snd replace with more quick passes and zone runs
 
I hope whatever he runs, they run at top speed. It was not just that we were running read options, we ran our plays slow the last three years. It is pretty easy to disrupt and defend an offense running at 80% speed.
 
BigDanT said:
It really bothered me we didn’t see that in the last few years. I mean the thing I loved about the option is when the b back hit the line almost immediately.
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We had some plays with quick hitches on the outside, and they worked a good bit when we did them just never went back to them for whatever reason.
 
Techfan02 said:
We had some plays with quick hitches on the outside, and they worked a good bit when we did them just never went back to them for whatever reason.
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Listen, if bubble screens are working then damnit I want to see 8 bubble screens in a row!!!
 
Diseqc said:
It's likely the offense will be demonstrably better this year and it'll be all for naught. The defense will continue to do Thacker type things and the entire staff will be washed away in the aftermath.
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Several of the anonymous opposing coaches said the same thing in The Athlon—- basically what little talent there was left on defense departed in the portal. I personally don’t think the offense is going to be much better either. OL play will be lacking and we lost a future NFL RB. I’m hopeful the kid from Clemson can play.
 
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I think the biggest thing I'm hoping for is that the upgrades to the offensive coaching staff will allow Collins to concentrate completely on defense. He's actually demonstrated he can field a good defense as a DC. There has to be a semi-competent coach lurking beneath the marketing veneer, right?
 
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