I hope CGC remembers this game...

aeromech said:
One of the things that really puzzles me is the non-PI calls on our final passes to the endzone. Pitt is up by 14 with I think less than 30 seconds left in the game; what does it hurt to make the correct call even if we score? Particularly that last non-PI call, so what if we eventually score after that. It is as if the refs were trying to make a definitive statement or they just couldn't get out of the mode they were in all game.
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On the first pass, the ref closest to the play signaled uncatchable. Probably was, but might have been defensive holding, too. But he did the same thing on the next play and still got no call, which is BS.

JRjr
 
vapspwi said:
On the first pass, the ref closest to the play signaled uncatchable. Probably was, but might have been defensive holding, too. But he did the same thing on the next play and still got no call, which is BS.

JRjr
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There's no way that was uncatchable enough to warrant a no call. It wasn't high, the ref was saying it was out of reach -- but of course it was out of reach, our player was being held away from running back to the ball.

I don't know if we would have caught it without the hold. My best guess is probably "no". But it was absolutely close enough that PI should have been called. Uncatchable should only be called in cases where it is extremely obvious, not where it probably wouldn't have been caught.
 
andrew said:
There's no way that was uncatchable enough to warrant a no call. It wasn't high, the ref was saying it was out of reach -- but of course it was out of reach, our player was being held away from running back to the ball.

I don't know if we would have caught it without the hold. My best guess is probably "no". But it was absolutely close enough that PI should have been called. Uncatchable should only be called in cases where it is extremely obvious, not where it probably wouldn't have been caught.
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This. The ball landed about 4 feet out of bounds, there is no way it was too high when it crossed the sideline to be clearly uncatchable.
 
We started walking out from our seats in the UN almost as soon as the ball turned over on downs. By the time we got to the stairway, the refs van was already headed out from the north endzone with a police escort. Maybe the world record for refs leaving a game. They must have dove into the van and screamed "go! Go! GO!!!!"
The refs absolutely know they screwed GT over last night. They should have plenty of CYA explaining to do to the ACC, bit the ACC is a öööö conference that will not do a damn thing.
 
JJacket said:
We started walking out from our seats in the UN almost as soon as the ball turned over on downs. By the time we got to the stairway, the refs van was already headed out from the north endzone with a police escort. Maybe the world record for refs leaving a game. They must have dove into the van and screamed "go! Go! GO!!!!"
The refs absolutely know they screwed GT over last night. They should have plenty of CYA explaining to do to the ACC, bit the ACC is a öööö conference that will not do a damn thing.
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our 10s of fans must have scared them off.
 
andrew said:
There's no way that was uncatchable enough to warrant a no call. It wasn't high, the ref was saying it was out of reach -- but of course it was out of reach, our player was being held away from running back to the ball.

I don't know if we would have caught it without the hold. My best guess is probably "no". But it was absolutely close enough that PI should have been called. Uncatchable should only be called in cases where it is extremely obvious, not where it probably wouldn't have been caught.
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aeromech said:
This. The ball landed about 4 feet out of bounds, there is no way it was too high when it crossed the sideline to be clearly uncatchable.
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It doesn't even matter if it's uncatchable. That only negates PI. It should've been defensive holding.
 
GoGATech said:
It doesn't even matter if it's uncatchable. That only negates PI. It should've been defensive holding.
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I believe the hold started while the ball was in the air. Doesn't that make it PI at that point, and not holding?
 
andrew said:
I believe the hold started while the ball was in the air. Doesn't that make it PI at that point, and not holding?
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I think holding can be called at any time. You can't call PI before the ball is in the air, it has to be holding. Like when we knocked the guy off his route OOB, and got flagged for PI, that was a bs call because the ball was not in the air. You can call defensive holding while the ball is in the air because that allows the "uncatchable ball" rule to not apply. You can't determine it was uncatchable because the receiver was being held. Unless he throws it in the stands I guess.
 
andrew said:
Yeah, I'm not sure what there is to be pissed at Pitt about.
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That 175 lb RB dancing on the sidelines, taunting as he ran for last TD, and flopping to try to get another flag after the TD.

Pickett for trying to draw the late out of bounds hit and then taunting after somehow being successful.

Pitt DBs (pretty much all of them) for folding every throw and then taunting after not a single one was called.

For me it’s that RB though. The guy racked up yards on an overly depleted DL and tried to flex on everybody like he didn’t get run down by half the team on that opening play at 175 lbs. Cannot wait to play him next year when he finds out maybe 2 of those DL are even in the 2 deep next year. #22 for them. Looking forward to that.
 
05GTCorndog said:
There wasn’t anything cheap there he tackled his midsection. Sims head snapped back and hit the ground. It wasn’t a dirty hit.

There is plenty to be pissed about without making öööö up
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The high hit on Sims was about 2-3 plays before that.
 
ramblin_wreck08 said:
That’s how I’ve felt more and more as the year has gone on. It’s becoming readily apparent that the young guys on our team are going to manhandle teams like Pitt once they have another year or two under their belts. And the classes following this one are going to be at least as good. Narduzzi’s smugness is on borrowed time.
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Hope you’re right but not sure how you can be so confident that we’ll
Win these games in future based on what we’ve seen thus far
 
GoGATech said:
I think holding can be called at any time. You can't call PI before the ball is in the air, it has to be holding. Like when we knocked the guy off his route OOB, and got flagged for PI, that was a bs call because the ball was not in the air. You can call defensive holding while the ball is in the air because that allows the "uncatchable ball" rule to not apply. You can't determine it was uncatchable because the receiver was being held. Unless he throws it in the stands I guess.
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I didn't know that about holding.

For the bolded, this is a difference between college and the NFL, right? In the NFL that would definitely be a penalty -- illegal contact.
 
andrew said:
I didn't know that about holding.

For the bolded, this is a difference between college and the NFL, right? In the NFL that would definitely be a penalty -- illegal contact.
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Yes, anything past 5 yards is illegal contact in NFL. That rule does not exist in college.
 
Referee performance... I take it as a parting gift from the Little Girl.

ACC "needs" Pit to get the win for the bowl $$$ and that is that. Screw Tech.

We have improved from the start of the season, even with being decimated by injuries. The future is bright.
 
Techbert said:
We have improved from the start of the season, even with being decimated by injuries. The future is bright.
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Yeah, I see glimmers that are starting to look like "young team can't overcome mistakes" and not "team has no idea what it's doing." That's progress, and the effort seems to be there (if not always the execution).

Related question - did anybody pay particular attention to the receivers last night? I tried to, to see if I could pick up on any of that "jogging/not running routes" stuff that the announcer talked about last week, but mostly when I remembered to try to watch, the pocked collapsed immediately or it was a running play, so I didn't see much. I just find it hard to believe that our receivers would be dogging it, honestly.

JRjr
 
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