James johnson quits

beej67 said:
I agree with that. I respect JJ more than Donley, or Taylor.

I didn't think JJ already had a redshirt year.
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You're forgetting the classic internet formula here:

anonymity + lack of accountability = . . .

JJ was on my list of most disappointing players from last year and I don't know if the injuries or what not got to him, but I will still miss him. He was a good kid that never embarassed the program, went to class, and did his job as a representative of the school. He tried to be the heir to greatest WR the school as even seen and not shockingly at all, he came up short.

He will be successful at other things in his life and the team will be fine without him so I don't see this as more than a hiccup.
 
I hope he sticks it out and gets his piece of paper for the wall. He did live in CJ's shadow the entire time, and I don't think anyone could ever do that successfully. If he decides to transfer somewhere else to play, then I'd jump on the screw him band wagon. But if he decided that his heart wasn't in football, and he would rather focus on school, then good for him.

Good luck Mr. Johnson.
 
MaconGTfan said:
JJ is not a physcial specimen. He is weak and it showed on the field, he got bullied around and was scared to get hit. He looked like a bean pole out there. I have nothing against the guy, but he is far from a "physical specimen" for a collegiate WR. Maybe he looks bigger up close? But he still played weak. He didn't really have a prayer in this physical offense.
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I was just throwing him a bone for calling him a mental pussy. He's still far more athletic than me.
 
anonymity + lack of accountability = . . .
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GTatUSC said:
I think its presumptuous of many of you to assume he's weak at heart or mind for deciding not to come back. There could be a number of reasons for him choosing to do this and in my opinion is more of a testament to his character to do what he feels is best of him rather than being bullied by fans/coaches. Theres also the fact he chose not to transfer though he could of and decided to finish off as a Yellow Jacket. We're all part of this Institute, players or not, and I think its a fine choice by him to remain true to Tech and finish out his degree. We've all had a dream we gave up for more important life choices and it may be what he did here.
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Presumptuous? Lets look into that.

JJ in the VT game while the game was still close dropped a crucial pass that would have been a TD. When the team started falling behind after that and giving poor effort, Gailey gets booed on the jumbotron. JJ in the post game locker room tells a reporter he thought the boos affected the team and they hurt his feelings.

He has the nerve to say this when he dropped a crucial TD pass when the game was still close AND long before Gailey got booed on the jumbotron.

He made similar comments all year long.

Then when we fired gailey and hire Paul Johnson he has the nerve to openly question the designed offense PJ is bringing in with him. WHO THE HELL IS HE TO QUESTION AN OFFENSE? He was a small part of a weak offense that consistently showed no ability to compete and score.

I don't think my comments are presumptuous at all. I'm sure JJ is a nice young man. He's also a greta athlete. But he repeatedly in his interviews showed a lack of character by making statements that he should have kept to himself. JJ never understood the phrase "Shut up and play".
 
Does any of this relate to the JJ quotes in the PJ article (different thread from a few days ago)?

In fact, the new coach is going lengths to defend his offense. When Georgia Tech's leading returning receiver James Johnson said "... we're going to hope that Coach does not do all that much running. We just hope he's saying all that to trick people," Johnson came out firing.
"He caught 30 balls (actually 25) and they went 7-6," Johnson said. "If something wasn't wrong, if what they were doing was so great, we wouldn't be here.
"It's not like we're coming in here and dismantling this high-powered machine that was lighting everybody up."

He wanted to quit a few weeks ago and PJ talked him into staying. But this article may have put him in the doghouse (nicely refurbished from the O’Leary days). That may have convinced him to quit for good.
 
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WracerX said:
He wanted to quit a few weeks ago and PJ talked him into staying. But this article may have put him in the doghouse (nicely refurbished from the O’Leary days). That may have convinced him to quit for good.
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Mr. Oliver stated on his board that he knew the details of this, but just can't release the info right now, in order to protect the player and coach involved. So, reading into what he said, seems like he butted heads with a coach.

Not surprising that most of the conflicts we are seeing are coming from the offensive side of the ball. While on the surface everyone will say its because its the change of styles, I think its deeper than that. Seems like we had a bunch of prima donnas on that side of the ball that are use to having a coach baby them.
 
BarrelORum said:
Presumptuous? Lets look into that.

JJ in the VT game while the game was still close dropped a crucial pass that would have been a TD. When the team started falling behind after that and giving poor effort, Gailey gets booed on the jumbotron. JJ in the post game locker room tells a reporter he thought the boos affected the team and they hurt his feelings.

He has the nerve to say this when he dropped a crucial TD pass when the game was still close AND long before Gailey got booed on the jumbotron.

He made similar comments all year long.

Then when we fired gailey and hire Paul Johnson he has the nerve to openly question the designed offense PJ is bringing in with him. WHO THE HELL IS HE TO QUESTION AN OFFENSE? He was a small part of a weak offense that consistently showed no ability to compete and score.

I don't think my comments are presumptuous at all. I'm sure JJ is a nice young man. He's also a greta athlete. But he repeatedly in his interviews showed a lack of character by making statements that he should have kept to himself. JJ never understood the phrase "Shut up and play".
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If you want to call that pass in the VT game a "drop", you have a very different definition of the word drop than I do.

Also, I agreed with JJ about the booing. You don't freakin' boo your team. CCG was the head man of the team and booing him while the team was losing counts as booing the team.

Finally, his comments about the offense merely implied his hope that CPJ wouldn't be running the ball exclusively and that passing would be involved in the offense. Whoopadeedoo. Those comments wouldn't be considered as openly questioning the designed offense.

JJ was a good player and went over the middle and fought in traffic to catch balls many times. Now, when he got hurt, it was a different story. He's not mentally weak.
 
Also, I agreed with JJ about the booing. You don't freakin' boo your team. CCG was the head man of the team and booing him while the team was losing counts as booing the team.
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Booing is feedback. We all deal with feedback in our jobs, football coaches and players should deal with it too.
 
Jacket59 said:
Also, I agreed with JJ about the booing. You don't freakin' boo your team. CCG was the head man of the team and booing him while the team was losing counts as booing the team.
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Regardless of whether this is true or not, as a player you have two options when your team plays like crap and your coach gets booed. You can a) whine publicly about how it hurt your feelings, or b) say "hey, maybe if we didn't lose by 27 on national television, our coach wouldn't get booed" and then resolve to play better next time. One shows a competitive side, one shows a complacent side. The biggest motivator in sports today is "nobody believes we are any good, even our own media/fans aren't behind us"...you don't often see players respond to that by saying it hurts their feelings.
 
Ask yourself how CPJ would likely respond to the crowd booing. Judging by some of his historical quotes in down times, I imagine it would go like this:

"I can't blame them for booing, I'd boo too if I spent hard earned money on tickets and had to watch the kind of piss poor football that we displayed out there today. Its unacceptable to the me, the team and the fans"
 
MaconGTfan said:
Ask yourself how CPJ would likely respond to the crowd booing. Judging by some of his historical quotes in down times, I imagine it would go like this:

"I can't blame them for booing, I'd boo too if I spent hard earned money on tickets and had to watch the kind of piss poor football that we displayed out there today. Its unacceptable to the me, the team and the fans"
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cosign.
 
Unfortunately, many of our players and former players had a Gaileyesque mentality about accountability. They only felt accountable to themselves and no one else. Guess what, that isn't what accountability is.

I don't agree with booing. Its poor form, but its an evil that isn't going away. You better learn to deal with it.
 
Ish said:
Booing is feedback. We all deal with feedback in our jobs, football coaches and players should deal with it too.
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That's a pathetic rationalization for a classless act. Sure, we all have feedback in our jobs, but not all of us have to listen to that feedback (from people who claim to be "supporters") in front of millions on TV. If you want to give them feedback, call them or send them an e-mail. Booing is merely a lazy, classless form of feedback that reflects poorly on the Institute that the person claims to "support".

Have I ever wanted to boo at a GT athletic event? So many times I have almost chewed my tongue off. But I have more respect for my school than to do it.
 
Throwing water bottles at refs is feedback.


beej67,
not kidding
 
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