Key’s contract details

aeromech said:
What if Key is the right guy for right now? What sense would paying him $5+Million/year make other than to make you and a few others happy? I don't think the Key contract tells us much about what Cabrera said, that will play out over the next couple of years.

What big splash hire were you guys looking for, Gruden? Freeze? Petrino? Frost? Orgeron? Mullen? Meyer? Chadwell flunked the interview both on and off the field, and Deion is a hugh unknown right now. Seems like everyone was sour on O'Brien. It is not like there is some long line of superstars lined up to coach at Georgia Tech if only we'd pay more. Kiffen was no more likely to come here than Harbaugh or Day or Kelly.
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What if my ass smelled like Channel No 5? I mean, while we're just speculating on öööö for which there is no evidence. And what does "right now" have to do with öööö? Best guy is best guy.

I never said that they shoujd pay KEY $5 million a year. I said they should have been prepared to pay at least that for the best coach available. Seems to me . . . they clearly weren't They went for the cheapest palatable option available. I hope they didn't just get what they paid for.

I wasn't looking for a splash. öööö that. öööö "superstars." I don't care if he is boring as öööö. JUST WIN BABY!!! I have listed my preferred coaches MANY times and they include NONE of the folks you mentioned. The only one of those I would even want woud be Meyer, and he is never, never, never, NEVER coming here. The rest are losers.

I was looking for the best coach possible. Preferably someone as yet unproven but who I have a high confidence WILL prove himself somewhere. If you wait until their proven, Tech will NEVER be able to hire them. So you either get guys no one else wants, or you make EDUCATED predictions about assistant coaches who WILL prove themselves, and you hire one and let him prove himself here before he is too hot of a commodity for you.
 
Diseqc said:
So you’d feel better if we paid Key $6 million a year just so it looks like we’re spending more money. That’s genius. Wait… genius isn’t the word I’m looking for

Oh right

That’s retarted
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You reading comprehension is as strong as your hygiene.

Again, I never said that they shoujd pay KEY $6 million a year. I said they should have been prepared to pay at least $5 million for the best coach available. Seems to me . . . they clearly weren't. Reports say that there were maybe a couple of other guys that they were considering hiring, but they wanted more than Tech's paltry $2.8 million. So Cabrera and Batt went for the cheapest palatable option available.

$5 milion is the MINIMUM price for admission to NCAA FBS competitiveness.

Oregon State just renewed their HC. for SIX years. At $30.6 million.

Oregon ööööing State. Pedestrian program. Second best in their state by a mile. $5 million / year.

Everyone else is playing chess, and Tech is playing tiddly winks.
 
1982Jacket said:
What if my ass smelled like Channel No 5? I mean, while we're just speculating on öööö for which there is no evidence. And what does "right now" have to do with öööö? Best guy is best guy.

I never said that they shoujd pay KEY $5 million a year. I said they should have been prepared to pay at least that for the best coach available. Seems to me . . . they clearly weren't They went for the cheapest palatable option available. I hope they didn't just get what they paid for.

I wasn't looking for a splash. öööö that. öööö "superstars." I don't care if he is boring as öööö. JUST WIN BABY!!! I have listed my preferred coaches MANY times and they include NONE of the folks you mentioned. The only one of those I would even want woud be Meyer, and he is never, never, never, NEVER coming here. The rest are losers.

I was looking for the best coach possible. Preferably someone as yet unproven but who I have a high confidence WILL prove himself somewhere. If you wait until their proven, Tech will NEVER be able to hire them. So you either get guys no one else wants, or you make EDUCATED predictions about assistant coaches who WILL prove themselves, and you hire one and let him prove himself here before he is too hot of a commodity for you.
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1982Jacket said:
You reading comprehension is as strong as your hygiene.

Again, I never said that they shoujd pay KEY $6 million a year. I said they should have been prepared to pay at least $5 million for the best coach available. Seems to me . . . they clearly weren't. Reports say that there were maybe a couple of other guys that they were considering hiring, but they wanted more than Tech's paltry $2.8 million. So Cabrera and Batt went for the cheapest palatable option available.

$5 milion is the MINIMUM price for admission to NCAA FBS competitiveness.

Oregon State just renewed their HC. for SIX years. At $30.6 million.

Oregon ööööing State. Pedestrian program. Second best in their state by a mile. $5 million / year.

Everyone else is playing chess, and Tech is playing tiddly winks.
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there is literally no proof that Key’s salary is the only salary we wanted to pay anyone. Dumbass.
 
1982Jacket said:
What if my ass smelled like Channel No 5? I mean, while we're just speculating on öööö for which there is no evidence. And what does "right now" have to do with öööö? Best guy is best guy.

I never said that they shoujd pay KEY $5 million a year. I said they should have been prepared to pay at least that for the best coach available. Seems to me . . . they clearly weren't They went for the cheapest palatable option available. I hope they didn't just get what they paid for.

I wasn't looking for a splash. öööö that. öööö "superstars." I don't care if he is boring as öööö. JUST WIN BABY!!! I have listed my preferred coaches MANY times and they include NONE of the folks you mentioned. The only one of those I would even want woud be Meyer, and he is never, never, never, NEVER coming here. The rest are losers.

I was looking for the best coach possible. Preferably someone as yet unproven but who I have a high confidence WILL prove himself somewhere. If you wait until their proven, Tech will NEVER be able to hire them. So you either get guys no one else wants, or you make EDUCATED predictions about assistant coaches who WILL prove themselves, and you hire one and let him prove himself here before he is too hot of a commodity for you.
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There IS evidence. You just don't want to acknowledge it. Brent Key has a very nice resume.

How do you know who is "the best possible coach?" By what criteria? Maybe he was the best based on their criteria. Deion's resume is exactly 2 years as HC at Jackson State plus a bunch of HS experience. Jamie Chadwell? His resume is full of a bunch of small schools like Charleston Southern, and then Coastal Carolina. But wait...! He was interim at Coastal and was made FT HC. I thought that was bad somehow? Would you have preferred Mullin? Bronco Mendenhall? Willie Fritz? It's all pretty much subjective to me, and every school has its hiring parameters. Very seldom is the very "best person out there" ever hired.

Here Chadwell's resume: 2 years position coach at ETSU, 4 years OC at Charleston So., 2 years HC at Delta St., 3 years HC at Chas. So., 1 year OC/Interim HC at Coastal, 1 year as AHC/OC at Coastal, 4 years HC at Coastal.

Good resume. That got him a job at Liberty.

Here's Key's resume: 4-year starter at GA Tech, 2 years GA at GA Tech, 1 year TE/RB coach at WCU, 1 year OL coach at UCF, 2 years TE/RC at UCF, 1 year ST/TE/RC at UCF, 3 years OL/RC at UCF, 2 years as AHC/OC/OL/RC at UCF, 3 years as OL coach at Alabama, 3.5 years as AHC/OL/RGC at GA Tech, .5 years as IHC at GA Tech.

Good resume. That got him the job at GA Tech.
 
aeromech said:
Get out of here with your math. Can't you see the guy is on a nonsensical rant?
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1982Jacket said:
You reading comprehension is as strong as your hygiene.

Again, I never said that they shoujd pay KEY $6 million a year. I said they should have been prepared to pay at least $5 million for the best coach available. Seems to me . . . they clearly weren't. Reports say that there were maybe a couple of other guys that they were considering hiring, but they wanted more than Tech's paltry $2.8 million. So Cabrera and Batt went for the cheapest palatable option available.

$5 milion is the MINIMUM price for admission to NCAA FBS competitiveness.

Oregon State just renewed their HC. for SIX years. At $30.6 million.

Oregon ööööing State. Pedestrian program. Second best in their state by a mile. $5 million / year.

Everyone else is playing chess, and Tech is playing tiddly winks.
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It’s best not to state the obvious. Stingtalkers just want blind optimism. Facts or outside perception be damned. It’s clear that Tech is not currently interested in rebuilding our football program. Just not a priority. As long as we can be competitive against Duke and VA Tech, that’s the sweet spot. Doesn’t matter that we are a patsy on the schedules of our biggest rivals.
 
cincytechie said:
It’s best not to state the obvious. Stingtalkers just want blind optimism. Facts or outside perception be damned. It’s clear that Tech is not currently interested in rebuilding our football program. Just not a priority. As long as we can be competitive against Duke and VA Tech, that’s the sweet spot. Doesn’t matter that we are a patsy on the schedules of our biggest rivals.
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Troof. Gospel Troof.
 
ricejacket said:
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hmmm let me go back a sec...
THWUGA said:
I would bet that his first contract would be about $2.5-2.8MM/avg x 4 years if he got the job, plus an option year, plus material incentives, and a significantly larger assistants pool.
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Key $2.8MM, check. 30% larger assistants pool, check.
THWUGA said:
The other names are in the middle... mid-major head coaches (Chadwell is $2MM @ CCU) and big program assistants (BOB is $1.1MM @ Bama) who will command +/-$4MM.
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Chadwell $4MM, check
 
cincytechie said:
It’s best not to state the obvious. Stingtalkers just want blind optimism. Facts or outside perception be damned. It’s clear that Tech is not currently interested in rebuilding our football program. Just not a priority. As long as we can be competitive against Duke and VA Tech, that’s the sweet spot. Doesn’t matter that we are a patsy on the schedules of our biggest rivals.
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Facts and outside perception would say that when a school spends over $10 million to fire their coach and athletic director midseason specifically because the football team is not good enough, that school is interested in rebuilding the football program.

Facts and outside perception would say that if rebuilding the football program wasn't a priority, a school would wait until after the season for the buyout to drop rather than spending extra money and going through the public spectacle of an in-season firing so that they could get a new administration in place for early signing period.

Now, maybe you disagree with how they are trying to do it. Maybe you think they should have taken more financial risk now to or been able to secure more resources now so that we could have hired a different coach. But it doesn't make sense to say that a school which just committed a huge amount of money to buying out their coach and AD so that they could rebuild the football program isn't interested in rebuilding the football program.
 
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