KEY IS MY HEADCOACH!!!

Head coach

  • Keep Key

    Votes: 115 66.9%

  • Hire someone else

    Votes: 57 33.1%
  • Total voters
    172
  • Poll closed .
wishbone said:
So which is it? Can't run a winning offense cuz we got no offensive line or we got no offense we got Chip Long?
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The point was that while we did well to play within the limits of what our offensive line could do, those limits may be too constrained to succeed and greater performance is necessary.

Also who says those things are mutually exclusive? Both could be bad.
 
GTLiebs said:
The Key-O'Leary comparison just isn't a good one and people need to stop making it. There is a big difference because O'Leary had very little connection to the failure of Lewis: they were only together for part of a season and as you alluded to Lewis caused other separate issues that made things worse. Key has been associated with the previous failure coach for the entire duration and we are not yet 100% sure what extent Key played in the OL/offensive failings vs Collins.

Also we can make judgements one how Key could be as a coach without forcing in a comparison to the 1 interim coach takeover in recent memory (were there any others in GT history even?).
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People do not need to stop making it. O'leary was there next to l*****.
You made the nitwit assertion interim coaches do not make good head coaches-Oleary and Dabo are great examples otherwise.
 
wishbone said:
People do not need to stop making it. O'leary was there next to l*****.
You made the nitwit assertion interim coaches do not make good head coaches-Oleary and Dabo are great examples otherwise.
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Will you not put words in my mouth. I did not say interim coaches cannot make good head coaches. I said O'Leary and Key are not similar situations. If anything, my point is that just because one interim coach in a different situation was in fact successful does not mean it always will be. And O'Leary was "next to" Lewis for less than a year for Christs sake.
 
GTLiebs said:
Will you not put words in my mouth. I did not say interim coaches cannot make good head coaches. I said O'Leary and Key are not similar situations. If anything, my point is that just because one interim coach in a different situation was in fact successful does not mean it always will be. And O'Leary was "next to" Lewis for less than a year for Christs sake.
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I didn't put words in your mouth-you did.
I was responding to Tech rush "
"I like when people compare Key to Dabo. A team taking a chance on some unknown position/interim coach and succeeding happens all the time, if you think once in my lifetime is all the time."
You rolled right in with... 'The Key-O'Leary comparison just isn't a good one and people need to stop making it ' when actually it is a good comparison. Key worked for MNC Saban and O'Leary.
 
wishbone said:
I didn't put words in your mouth-you did.
I was responding to Tech rush "
"I like when people compare Key to Dabo. A team taking a chance on some unknown position/interim coach and succeeding happens all the time, if you think once in my lifetime is all the time."
You rolled right in with... 'The Key-O'Leary comparison just isn't a good one and people need to stop making it ' when actually it is a good comparison. Key worked for MNC Saban and O'Leary.
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Please point out the exact text where I said "Interim coaches cannot be successful"
 
GTLiebs said:
Ah but the question isn't what Should be done, it's how would you take that specific circumstance? Assuming Key is you main choice.
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I saw some little improvement in the oline in past several weeks when healthy... If he gets job and decides on keeping Long I stomach it with the hope that continued oline play and Pyron coming back allows for whatever limitations or super conserative behavior Long says to fall into...
 
stinger78 said:
I don't know many that are saying it's easy to choose Key, they seem to me to be just saying it's a decision that can make sense. Both have their negative points. Key lost a tough game to UVA when his starting QB went out and the (then) #2 just wasn't ready. Certainly not good, but in the course of things this season, understandable. Miami simply has better personnel and the O decided to give the ball to them 4x. Part of that problem was that we were somehow picked to win that game - it was always a long shot. Again, no ugly loss is good, but we lose that game 4 of 5 times anyway. You cannot dismiss them, but neither should we make them determinative.
Chadwell, at the end of his 4th full season - with his coaches and his players, just got absolutely boat-raced by the major competition in his own conference. You can't possibly undersell that, but it should not be determinative either. However, when you look deeper at his W/L, you see he's racked up the numbers largely against bad teams. The ACC has come of those, but Tech has UGAg, Clemson, ND, FSU, UNC, and a few OOC's like Ole Miss, UT, etc. It's just a much tougher league. If he cannot, in his 4th season, hang with JMU then how is he going to scale up to what he would face at Tech week after week? That is my concern. Plus... it's just a whole new start-over. I'm tired of starting over.
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and JMU just bumped up from FCS this
year
 
malak05 said:
I saw some little improvement in the oline in past several weeks when healthy... If he gets job and decides on keeping Long I stomach it with the hope that continued oline play and Pyron coming back allows for whatever limitations or super conserative behavior Long says to fall into...
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Tough season to rate Long on. Other words. Depth to the argument. QBs. Words. Drunk. Key at 2 years with option for three. < 2 mil a year. Make us smile.
 
GTLiebs said:
Please point out the exact text where I said "Interim coaches cannot be successful"
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That's all you got after jumping my post with Tech Rush about interim coaches ? You said O'Leary was a bad example and you are wrong.


 
My post was about people comparing Key to Dabo. Dabo is a unicorn. Please tell me about the obscure position/interim coaches that were hired full time and had a run like Dabo? People make comparisons to the one guy that succeeded spectacularly.

I didn't say every interim coach turns out bad, I'm saying it is very highly unlikely they turn out like Dabo.
 
BigDanT said:
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That guy actually reached out to Deion personally. There’s a huge split in the money people behind the scenes at Auburn.
 
TechRush said:
My post was about people comparing Key to Dabo. Dabo is a unicorn. Please tell me about the obscure position/interim coaches that were hired full time and had a run like Dabo? People make comparisons to the one guy that succeeded spectacularly.

I didn't say every interim coach turns out bad, I'm saying it is very highly unlikely they turn out like Dabo.
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Ryan Day
 
ClubSeats said:
Ryan Day
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I'll give you Ryan Day but he didn't have to rebuild anything nor has made his team better. He just had to maintain The OSU and has done so. But he has lost to Michigan twice in a row. I wonder how long The OSU nation will put up with that.
 
TechRush said:
My post was about people comparing Key to Dabo. Dabo is a unicorn. Please tell me about the obscure position/interim coaches that were hired full time and had a run like Dabo? People make comparisons to the one guy that succeeded spectacularly.

I didn't say every interim coach turns out bad, I'm saying it is very highly unlikely they turn out like Dabo.
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Bobby Dodd was AC at GA Tech until he was named HC at GA Tech and the rest is history.
Frank Broyles was AC at GA Tech and got hired as HC at Missouri and the rest is history.
Ray Graves was AC at GA Tech and got hired as HC at Florida and the rest is history.
Vince Dooley was AC at Auburn and got hired as HC at Georgia and the rest is history.
Steve Spurrier was OC/QB at Dook and got hired as a HC in the USFL's Tampa Bay Bandits.
Barry Switzer was OC at Oklahoma and got hired as HC at Oklahoma and the rest is history.
George O'Leary was DC at GA Tech and was named HC at GA Tech and the rest is history.
Bob Stoops was AHC/DC at Florida and was named HC at Oklahoma and the rest is history.
Ralph Friedgen was OC at GA Tech and was named HC at Maryland and the rest is history.
Mark Richt was OC at FSU and got hired as HC at UGA and the rest is history.
James Franklin was AHC/OC at Maryland and got hired as HC at Vandy and the rest is history.
Kirby Smart was DC at Alabama and got hired as HC at UGA and the rest is history.
Lincoln Riley was OC at Oklahoma and got hired as HC at Oklahoma and the rest is history.
Brent Venables was DC at Clemson and got hired as HC at Oklahoma and the rest is (short) history.
Tony Elliott was OC at Clemson and got hired as HC at UVA and the rest is (short) history.

Brent Key was AHC/AC/RC at GA Tech and got hired as IHC at GA Tech perhaps being named HC at GA Tech.

History says it happens all the time in major programs.
 
Apparently some Key fans think that the 23-point loss to Georgia is more reason to keep Key. Supposedly, we had a good game plan but the players just didn't make the plays they needed to to win the game.

The reason the players didn't make the plays they needed to win the game is coaching. Key is responsible for that. Or it is recruiting, which Key has also been responsible for as the associate head coach for the past 4 years.

A lot of teams played UGA close this year--much closer than we did. They aren't that great offensively and rely on their defense. They barely came back to beat Missouri, for example. Their game with Kent State was about as close as ours--I think they were also losing or within one score at the half.

At the end of the day, we have a losing record, and aren't going to a bowl because of Key's failure against a weak UVA team. I appreciate his efforts, but no to Brent Key and this staff.
 
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