Khalil Tate tweeted he didnt want the TO so Niumatalolo wouldnt be hired

beej67 said:
I won't argue the ceiling thing, other than to say if we've hit the ceiling with CPJ, then it's a higher ceiling than we would currently have with someone running a traditional offense, and that the ceiling is something that flows from the school, not from the coach.

I've argued elsewhere that the ceiling is specifically a result of the Institute itself being controlled politically by the Board of Regents, which are a bunch of Dwag season ticket holders, and that the ceiling extends past football, and if we want the ceiling gone so we can do things like Stanford does, we need to go private. I won't recount that argument here, other than to say it's ööööing true. And that financially, the only thing holding us back from going private is certain land ownership complications.
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I don't know. The big donors for Tech seem to also have zero interest in opening up majors, such as hiring many new faculty to offer traditional humanities programs.

Also, for other schools with higher admission standards (Stanford, ND, Vandy), the players choose business majors overwhelmingly. Not as much as GT, but it's the majority of players. At least that was my recollection. The business majors also have similar calculus and stats requirements.

I feel GT really shot itself in the foot with the north endzone and three simultaneous buyouts. The locker room "before" pictures surprised me. I first rolled my eyes hearing about the locker room renovations. It sounded like a dumb arms race with Oregon-type facilities. But the facilities were actually kind of bad. CPJ has also been limited in assistants and "analyst" positions.
 
PasadenaJacket said:
What proof do you have that Tstan was that much better than Drad? Drad is certainly a higher regarded job now, right?
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Are you suggesting that the hiring of Paul Johnson in 2007 became a bullet point on Radakovich's resume that ultimately led to his getting the Clempsen job?
 
GoldZ said:
This reminds me of a very old 60 Minutes segment on race and sports. The program centered on Stanford's track coach who insisted he could find several white Carl Lewises. He's still looking for em.
There's simply not enuf qualified buyers, especially considering the competition for them. Can we do marginally better than we do now---I'm sure we can---Can we do an order of magnitude better with the current restrictions---I seriously doubt it. It all makes the occasional great year when we have a few exceptional players combined with exceptional health, that much sweeter.
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I am not a recruiting junkie, but we have a dozen or so commits for the current class. Has there been any evaluation as to whether we are doing "marginally better" or "an order of magnitude better" given our new recruiting analysts and more emphasis overall?
I do appreciate the sweetness of the occasional great year. During the Gailey years I was convinced that whatever satisfaction we would glean from our football team would be through the "occasional big win" rather than that really good season, as it had become apparent that 7 wins was all we could muster. CPJ has delivered both, I guess. Big, big individual wins, and some glorious seasons.
 
floridajacket said:
I don't know. The big donors for Tech seem to also have zero interest in opening up majors, such as hiring many new faculty to offer traditional humanities programs.

Also, for other schools with higher admission standards (Stanford, ND, Vandy), the players choose business majors overwhelmingly. Not as much as GT, but it's the majority of players. At least that was my recollection. The business majors also have similar calculus and stats requirements.

I feel GT really shot itself in the foot with the north endzone and three simultaneous buyouts. The locker room "before" pictures surprised me. I first rolled my eyes hearing about the locker room renovations. It sounded like a dumb arms race with Oregon-type facilities. But the facilities were actually kind of bad. CPJ has also been limited in assistants and "analyst" positions.
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No fj, Stanford, ND, and Vandy are not comparable to Tech in terms of hurdles.
 
Yukonwreck said:
Are you suggesting that the hiring of Paul Johnson in 2007 became a bullet point on Radakovich's resume that ultimately led to his getting the Clempsen job?
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Not at all. gogt suggested that our candidate list would be better now than it was in 07 because of Tstan. I interpret that as "Tstan is better than Drad". I'm not saying that isn't true, but I'd love to hear the proof. Tstan is doing awesome, but Drad was hired from us for what most would consider a better job, so someone thought he was good.
 
PasadenaJacket said:
Not at all. gogt suggested that our candidate list would be better now than it was in 07 because of Tstan. I interpret that as "Tstan is better than Drad". I'm not saying that isn't true, but I'd love to hear the proof. Tstan is doing awesome, but Drad was hired from us for what most would consider a better job, so someone thought he was good.
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I think Tstan is a better fit for us than Drad was in the same manner that Clemson was a better fit for Drad than we were. Drad is probably a fine AD for a program more in line with your standard college football school. Tstan's devotion to Tech and his willingness, and even eagerness, to engage with and overcome our rare challenges puts us in a better place with regards to potential coaches sensing "buy in" than Drad's approach might have. /speculation
 
GTRules said:
You’re right. We could get another Bill Lewis.
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or the next version of Saban, Spurrier, (or for you TO lovers) or CPJ.

We're gonna have to move on from CPJ at some point. I wonder how many Scheme First fans we'll lose when we do?
 
ThisIsAtlanta said:
I think Tstan is a better fit for us than Drad was in the same manner that Clemson was a better fit for Drad than we were. Drad is probably a fine AD for a program more in line with your standard college football school. Tstan's devotion to Tech and his willingness, and even eagerness, to engage with and overcome our rare challenges puts us in a better place with regards to potential coaches sensing "buy in" than Drad's approach might have. /speculation
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So, it is a given that Paul Johnson will not coach here forever. If his tenure ends while Todd Stansbury is still the AD are you saying Stansbury will have a significantly different, and possibly better, short list of replacement candidates than Radakovich had? And that Stansbury's list would be a better "fit for Tech" list? Since Dodd's retirement, I have always considered that the hiring of Tech head coaches was more a function of who would actually take the job, rather than who Tech wanted as the coach.
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
But I'm also convinced that plenty of our fans are quite satisfied with 6-8 win seasons and lower-tier bowl games.
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That's where you go wrong. People aren't happy with it but they recognize the root cause of this is not simply the coach and bringing in a new guy isn't going to single handedly deliver the results we'd (and every other school trying to do the same thing) love to see. There has to be a comprehensive approach. I believe we've seen enough good things from CPJ and if we can give him additional tools I think he'll deliver. Thankfully this is starting to happen with Tstan.
 
Yukonwreck said:
So, it is a given that Paul Johnson will not coach here forever. If his tenure ends while Todd Stansbury is still the AD are you saying Stansbury will have a significantly different, and possibly better, short list of replacement candidates than Radakovich had? And that Stansbury's list would be a better "fit for Tech" list? Since Dodd's retirement, I have always considered that the hiring of Tech head coaches was more a function of who would actually take the job, rather than who Tech wanted as the coach.
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I'm not sure about how significant the difference will really be. If CPJ retired tomorrow, maybe not that much. If CPJ retires after all our facility upgrades are complete, I'd say quite a bit. But Tstan's obvious energy and commitment cant hurt when a coach is trying to decide whether we are a dead end job or a stepping stone. The pool of coaches considering those two kinds of jobs is very different. I think when we hired Tstan we were as close as we will ever be to dead end.

Tangent: somewhere off in the glorious future I think Tstan can make us a destination job for a small pool of coaches. There are zero worthwhile coaches out there right now in that pool, I would bet, except the guy who is still coaching us. Either way, I dont think that will happen in CPJ's time here, if it does.
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
or the next version of Saban, Spurrier, (or for you TO lovers) or CPJ.

We're gonna have to move on from CPJ at some point. I wonder how many Scheme First fans we'll lose when we do?
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Don't you mean how many of the scheme first fans we will get back? Because that question depends on what scheme we bring in after CPJ.
 
aeromech said:
Don't you mean how many of the scheme first fans we will get back? Because that question depends on what scheme we bring in after CPJ.
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Good point. If a Monken is hired, no change....to anything, including our win % of the past 18 years.
 
Something different needs to be done. This is different. Therefore it needs to be done.
 
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