Khalil Tate tweeted he didnt want the TO so Niumatalolo wouldnt be hired

There are a number of fundamental things that have changed in the last 25 or so years, most of which have hurt our competitive position. The APR is one, but the financial arms race has been much larger. It starts with huge TV money driving up NFL riches and filters down to the college level with large fan bases, escalating coaches' salaries, and expensive facilities to lure recruits, the best of whom (from a pro prospect view) have little interest in a rigorous college education. For them, college is the minor leagues, a required step to the NFL. The schools that have competed for a national championship over the past couple of decades are all football factories - nothing like Tech. To pretend that we will somehow be able to recruit (and retain) a superstar coach and staff who will be able to overcome these institutional hurdles and take us to the promised land post CPJ is fantasy. It might be more productive to pray for a Tech version of Phil Knight or T. Boone Pickens.
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
Donnan's mutts weren't any worse than the 09 or 15 mutts. The 09 team was so bad, it fired its DC (after they shut down CPJ). The 2015 mutts were worse than any mutt team we've faced since the 70s. They got CMR fired, after he whipped ol CPJ.
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We scored 24 and averaged 5.4 ypp with Nesbitt out for a quarter. I guess we have different definitions of "shut down."
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
Donnan's mutts weren't any worse than the 09 or 15 mutts. The 09 team was so bad, it fired its DC (after they shut down CPJ). The 2015 mutts were worse than any mutt team we've faced since the 70s. They got CMR fired, after he whipped ol CPJ.
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The 2015 mutts went 10-3 and ended ranked 24th, which is better than the 2001 mutt team Richt beat O'leary with. Donnan never had a mutt team as good as the 2008 or 2014 mutt teams CPJ beat. The 2009 mutt team was tied for second in the SEC east, which is the highest any Donnan team ever got. The worst mutt teams we faced since the 70s were no doubt the Ray Goff years; and those horrendous teams beat Bobby Ross in Atlanta in '91; the worst of those Goff teams was the 4-7 mutts we beat in 1990.

Curse you for forcing me to look up dog stats.
 
Not only was the 2015 UGA team not the worst since the 70's, the 2016 and 2013 teams were worse.
 
floridajacket said:
We scored 24 and averaged 5.4 ypp with Nesbitt out for a quarter. I guess we have different definitions of "shut down."
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they had almost as many team rushing yards as we had total yards. by 2009 O standards, that wasn't good, esp. given how bad that mutt D was. I chalk that loss more up to questionable play-calling than O, though.
 
aeromech said:
The 2015 mutts went 10-3 and ended ranked 24th, which is better than the 2001 mutt team Richt beat O'leary with. Donnan never had a mutt team as good as the 2008 or 2014 mutt teams CPJ beat. The 2009 mutt team was tied for second in the SEC east, which is the highest any Donnan team ever got. The worst mutt teams we faced since the 70s were no doubt the Ray Goff years; and those horrendous teams beat Bobby Ross in Atlanta in '91; the worst of those Goff teams was the 4-7 mutts we beat in 1990.

Curse you for forcing me to look up dog stats.
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well, they sucked ass against us yet we couldn't beat 'em.
 
gogt5 said:
Apr apr apr apr apr apr apr apr apr apr apr apr apr apr apr apr apr apr apr apr apr apr. That's gonna be your response no matter what I say
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It wasn't "all" I said to begin with, so why would it be now? About that list (realistic) of coaches who could recruit better and win a lot more games with our limitations---still waiting. If it was a lol post as you seem to think, it should be no prob to rattle off said list, huh? Do you even know who Carole Moore is and what our players SATs are relative to all D-1 programs? Btw, it's a lot more complicated than SATs and APR.
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
they had almost as many team rushing yards as we had total yards. by 2009 O standards, that wasn't good, esp. given how bad that mutt D was. I chalk that loss more up to questionable play-calling than O, though.
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Given our lack of defense in most of the last ten seasons, anytime our offense is getting less than GREAT production and time of possession, we're at risk of losing a game to a competent opponent. Duke, coming in on a six game losing streak went on a 23-0 run to win going away.
 
GSOJacket said:
As I think I recall, a prime factor in the successful recruiting of several stars in our 2007 class was the relationship between several of the mothers who went to college together, shared a preference for Tech, and became an active back channel in the recruiting of this class. An almost freak occurrence that was acknowledged as a once in many years alignment of the sun, moon, and stars - Chan's good luck, not his recruiting prowess.
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Is this really something that happened?

Sadly I didn't follow football as closely as I should have during the Chan Era (go figure) and I have never heard this before.
 
ClydeBrick said:
Is this really something that happened?

Sadly I didn't follow football as closely as I should have during the Chan Era (go figure) and I have never heard this before.
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What all this really shows is that we have pretty darn good coaches. Every now and again, we get a star player or two, and our guys are off to the races. I have always thought that the "Student" part at Tech was a unique mind focusser, and accounts for why our guys outperform their recruiting rankings. Which they have done as a team for more years than I can remember. Tech is a hard sell. You have to work hard, and there will be no slack in the classroom. But what it will do is prepare you for life in a much better way than any factory. Doing something hard changes you.

I think the current coach is good. I thought the last guy was good. You can run all sorts of statistics and show that there might be a statistically significant difference in performance, but the fact that you resort to statistics to differentiate them shows me there is not much daylight between the two. But I do know that with each shift, there is a potential for something like what happened when Ross left. Since THAT guy never had another head coach position, it tells me that he didn't have the skill set. But he was the "young" hot coach of the day. Thankfully our AA has not resorted to such foolishness, though they did fall for the former player thing, which became awkward.
 
Bremstrahlung said:
What all this really shows is that we have pretty darn good coaches. Every now and again, we get a star player or two, and our guys are off to the races. I have always thought that the "Student" part at Tech was a unique mind focusser, and accounts for why our guys outperform their recruiting rankings. Which they have done as a team for more years than I can remember. Tech is a hard sell. You have to work hard, and there will be no slack in the classroom. But what it will do is prepare you for life in a much better way than any factory. Doing something hard changes you.

I think the current coach is good. I thought the last guy was good. You can run all sorts of statistics and show that there might be a statistically significant difference in performance, but the fact that you resort to statistics to differentiate them shows me there is not much daylight between the two. But I do know that with each shift, there is a potential for something like what happened when Ross left. Since THAT guy never had another head coach position, it tells me that he didn't have the skill set. But he was the "young" hot coach of the day. Thankfully our AA has not resorted to such foolishness, though they did fall for the former player thing, which became awkward.
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You REALLY think it's that hard of a sell? Or are you just making excuses for our mediocre coach?
 
gogt5 said:
You REALLY think it's that hard of a sell? Or are you just making excuses for our mediocre coach?
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"I'll be honest, I don't give two shits about recruiting rankings." - Paul Johnson, July 30, 2018, via The Athletic

It's almost like Paul is reading Stingtalk and trolling on y'all motheröööööös.
 
gogt5 said:
You REALLY think it's that hard of a sell? Or are you just making excuses for our mediocre coach?
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It may not be that hard of a "sell", but it's a damned hard "buy". When you are in a Audi (or take your pick) dealership, are you already sold? Of course you are, but the hard part comes when the sales guy discovers you aren't qualified to buy it, much less maintain it. In Tech's case, you aren't even invited to come into the showroom to gawk because they check you out to begin with.

Ever notice how many Masseratis there are on the lot and how many Ford pick-ups are on a lot? One has an Olympic sized pool of buyers and one has a thimble sized pool of buyers.
 
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