Khalil Tate tweeted he didnt want the TO so Niumatalolo wouldnt be hired

GoldZ said:
It may not be that hard of a "sell", but it's a damned hard "buy". When you are in a Audi (or take your pick) dealership, are you already sold? Of course you are, but the hard part comes when the sales guy discovers you aren't qualified to buy it, much less maintain it. In Tech's case, you aren't even invited to come into the showroom to gawk because they check you out to begin with.

Ever notice how many Masseratis there are on the lot and how many Ford pick-ups are on a lot? One has an Olympic sized pool of buyers and one has a thimble sized pool of buyers.
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So you don't have enough qualified buyers? You don't go selling to the unqualified buyers, do you? You have two choices: keep looking until you find enough qualifed buyers to pay the rent, or find another line of work.
 
Yukonwreck said:
So you don't have enough qualified buyers? You don't go selling to the unqualified buyers, do you? You have two choices: keep looking until you find enough qualifed buyers to pay the rent, or find another line of work.
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So, of your two choices, it seems like we are doing the former. You'd rather we do the latter?
 
Yukonwreck said:
So you don't have enough qualified buyers? You don't go selling to the unqualified buyers, do you? You have two choices: keep looking until you find enough qualifed buyers to pay the rent, or find another line of work.
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Dropping out of football or going down a class is not my preferred choice.
 
We've got alot of mediocrity around the Georgia Tech program and I believe the amount of mediocrity built into our program is a huge negative for us. Got to push the mediocrity out of the program. Some of our fans have caught the mediocrity virus as well. What a shame
 
gogt5 said:
We've got alot of mediocrity around the Georgia Tech program and I believe the amount of mediocrity built into our program is a huge negative for us. Got to push the mediocrity out of the program. Some of our fans have caught the mediocrity virus as well. What a shame
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If only the top 100 recruits wanted to be engineers or some other STEM related major, we probably wouldn’t be so mediocre in football for the last 50 years. With the exception of a few outlying seasons, where the stars aligned, when have we ever been consistently not mediocre? The 1950s?

I don’t think there is any school out there that has the limited degrees we have, except maybe the academies.
 
PasadenaJacket said:
Haters who think we can do better-

Here were the coaches apparently willing to answer our call in 2008:

- Chris Hatcher
- Rick Neuheisel
- Randy Edsall
- Charlie Strong
- Turner Gill

Who would have delivered that magical combination of better recruiting and coaching that we could be enjoying now?
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We didn't have Tstan at that time. Tstan would do a hell of alot better than that
 
Yukonwreck said:
So you don't have enough qualified buyers? You don't go selling to the unqualified buyers, do you? You have two choices: keep looking until you find enough qualifed buyers to pay the rent, or find another line of work.
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This reminds me of a very old 60 Minutes segment on race and sports. The program centered on Stanford's track coach who insisted he could find several white Carl Lewises. He's still looking for em.
There's simply not enuf qualified buyers, especially considering the competition for them. Can we do marginally better than we do now---I'm sure we can---Can we do an order of magnitude better with the current restrictions---I seriously doubt it. It all makes the occasional great year when we have a few exceptional players combined with exceptional health, that much sweeter.
 
gogt5 said:
We've got alot of mediocrity around the Georgia Tech program and I believe the amount of mediocrity built into our program is a huge negative for us. Got to push the mediocrity out of the program. Some of our fans have caught the mediocrity virus as well. What a shame
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Meh, It Is What It Is. **shrugs shoulders**
 
Is RamblinWreck92's total argument that we should fire Paul Johnson so Khalil Tate might come to Georgia Tech?

If so, I think he first needs to explain why Khalil Tate would otherwise want to come to Georgia Tech. And then he needs to explain why having Khalil Tate here would lead to us beating Georgia.

In a larger sense, he needs to explain why doing the exact same thing as Georgia does schematically, with worse players, will lead to more wins versus Georgia. Objectively speaking, adopting the same scheme as another team should eliminate Xs and Os from the equation entirely, and reduce the whole thing to Jimmies and Joes.

As if we're not hamstrung enough institutionally, making everything about our program second rate by definition seems pretty stupid. At least to me anyway.
 
gogt5 said:
We've got alot of mediocrity around Georgia Tech and I believe the amount of mediocrity built in is a huge negative for us. Got to push the mediocrity out. Some of our alumni have caught the mediocrity virus as well. What a shame
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btfy
 
beej67 said:
Is RamblinWreck92's total argument that we should fire Paul Johnson so Khalil Tate might come to Georgia Tech?

If so, I think he first needs to explain why Khalil Tate would otherwise want to come to Georgia Tech. And then he needs to explain why having Khalil Tate here would lead to us beating Georgia.

In a larger sense, he needs to explain why doing the exact same thing as Georgia does schematically, with worse players, will lead to more wins versus Georgia. Objectively speaking, adopting the same scheme as another team should eliminate Xs and Os from the equation entirely, and reduce the whole thing to Jimmies and Joes.

As if we're not hamstrung enough institutionally, making everything about our program second rate by definition seems pretty stupid. At least to me anyway.
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I've not made any argument that CPJ should be fired. I do think we've hit the ceiling with him and I also think it'd be nice if he adapted his scheme on O a bit, as it's apparent that other league members are playing us much better now than they have in years past. But I'm also convinced that plenty of our fans are quite satisfied with 6-8 win seasons and lower-tier bowl games. The guy just got an extension after 2 of 3 losing seasons so he's going nowhere anytime soon. He's made a big change on the D side. A few new wrinkles to the O couldn't make us any worse than 2015/17.
 
PasadenaJacket said:
Haters who think we can do better-

Here were the coaches apparently willing to answer our call in 2008:

- Chris Hatcher
- Rick Neuheisel
- Randy Edsall
- Charlie Strong
- Turner Gill

Who would have delivered that magical combination of better recruiting and coaching that we could be enjoying now?
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I actually would like to see what Charlie Strong could do in ATL
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
I've not made any argument that CPJ should be fired. I do think we've hit the ceiling with him
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I won't argue the ceiling thing, other than to say if we've hit the ceiling with CPJ, then it's a higher ceiling than we would currently have with someone running a traditional offense, and that the ceiling is something that flows from the school, not from the coach.

I've argued elsewhere that the ceiling is specifically a result of the Institute itself being controlled politically by the Board of Regents, which are a bunch of Dwag season ticket holders, and that the ceiling extends past football, and if we want the ceiling gone so we can do things like Stanford does, we need to go private. I won't recount that argument here, other than to say it's ööööing true. And that financially, the only thing holding us back from going private is certain land ownership complications.
 
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