Kids dont love it

Akinji07 said:
18-22 year olds rushed the beaches of France and defeated Hitler. @GT flunkout and I were talking about this on our way to Ole Miss game. The biggest problem we have as a society today come from considering people kids until they turn 30. And our problems specific to football, a game of war and attrition, are also because our coaching staff treated them like kids. This was a major disservice to them. I’m not blaming them for being upset that he’s gone because they went through most of their career being shielded by Collins and they’re not going to get it until someone teaches them differently or professional life hits them in the face.
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Best post of the thread so far. Curry’s guys loved him but it took Ross to turn them into men who were ready for battle.
 
swampsting said:
Caralla needs to go too
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Ok, now you are flying off the deep end. Collins was Caralla’s boss so maybe let’s see how he does under an actual football coach.

Collins is gone -drown yourself in a bottle of Scotch. Come back after the hangover -we’ll still be here.
 
Akinji07 said:
18-22 year olds rushed the beaches of France and defeated Hitler. @GT flunkout and I were talking about this on our way to Ole Miss game. The biggest problem we have as a society today come from considering people kids until they turn 30. And our problems specific to football, a game of war and attrition, are also because our coaching staff treated them like kids. This was a major disservice to them. I’m not blaming them for being upset that he’s gone because they went through most of their career being shielded by Collins and they’re not going to get it until someone teaches them differently or professional life hits them in the face.
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alright grandpa, i know things were soooooo much harder in the past but none of this has any meaning on the real world. the kids getting their öööö rocked on normandy beach were kids too. they were scared ööööless and died tragically. no need to remove their humanity like that, it's unfortunate that they were never able to grow old like you or me.

let these kids be a little bummed that someone they grew close to is gone and not mock them. they'll move on just fine, it's not as serious as you're making it out to be.
 
00Burdell said:
Ok, now you are flying off the deep end. Collins was Caralla’s boss so maybe let’s see how he does under an actual football coach.

Collins is gone -drown yourself in a bottle of Scotch. Come back after the hangover -we’ll still be here.
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Is that actual football coach Key?
 
Architorture23 said:
Toxic is such a hip word nowadays.

Denial is toxic. No accountability is toxic. Coddling is toxic. Apathy is toxic. Losing is toxic.
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Taking current players is toxic. Being a douche is toxic. Constantly complaining about EVERY aspect of a program is toxic. Tech fans like you are only happy if the program is burning. Toxic.
 
Xihix said:
alright grandpa, i know things were soooooo much harder in the past but none of this has any meaning on the real world. the kids getting their öööö rocked on normandy beach were kids too. they were scared ööööless and died tragically. no need to remove their humanity like that, it's unfortunate that they were never able to grow old like you or me.

let these kids be a little bummed that someone they grew close to is gone and not mock them. they'll move on just fine, it's not as serious as you're making it out to be.
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Eh, there is a lot to unpack here. They might have liked Collins, but that wasn’t his job. His job was to elevate them as players. Hopefully that included elevating them as men as well. But like my comments of J Thomas, Collins professional demeanor probably cost him a draft pick. We he same may be true of Carpenter as well. Being the players friend is not always in that players best interest.
 
GTWannaBee said:
Taking current players is toxic. Being a douche is toxic. Constantly complaining about EVERY aspect of a program is toxic. Tech fans like you are only happy if the program is burning. Toxic.
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Where did I trash players? Where have I been complaining?

Tech fans like me enjoy winning and hate losing.
 
WracerX said:
Eh, there is a lot to unpack here. They might have liked Collins, but that wasn’t his job. His job was to elevate them as players. Hopefully that included elevating them as men as well. But like my comments of J Thomas, Collins professional demeanor probably cost him a draft pick. We he same may be true of Carpenter as well. Being the players friend is not always in that players best interest.
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this much i can get along with, i agree that a coach isn't meant to be your friend. but a coach is someone you should look up to and even if it's clear that collins was not someone worthy of that pedigree, some of these athletes evidently thought he was. again none of this matters ultimately, simply need to hope the next guy is good and gets these athletes where they need to be.
 
00Burdell said:
Ok, now you are flying off the deep end. Collins was Caralla’s boss so maybe let’s see how he does under an actual football coach.

Collins is gone -drown yourself in a bottle of Scotch. Come back after the hangover -we’ll still be here.
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I've been calling for Caralla to go for two years. Our team is slower and weaker than before. That's on him.
 
Xihix said:
alright grandpa, i know things were soooooo much harder in the past but none of this has any meaning on the real world. the kids getting their öööö rocked on normandy beach were kids too. they were scared ööööless and died tragically. no need to remove their humanity like that, it's unfortunate that they were never able to grow old like you or me.

let these kids be a little bummed that someone they grew close to is gone and not mock them. they'll move on just fine, it's not as serious as you're making it out to be.
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I disagree. In 20 years this program will die out with its aging fanbase unless this mentality changes. It’s actually pretty serious.
 
Xihix said:
this much i can get along with, i agree that a coach isn't meant to be your friend. but a coach is someone you should look up to and even if it's clear that collins was not someone worthy of that pedigree, some of these athletes evidently thought he was. again none of this matters ultimately, simply need to hope the next guy is good and gets these athletes where they need to be.
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I’m not saying Collins isn’t a solid guy, by all accounts he appears to be. But he is the HC, that’s where he failed.

Reminds me of my daughter’s AP chemistry teacher. The one everybody loves is the same one who’s students end up with 2’s. Nobody hates the other teacher, but he isn’t someone everybody loves. His students always score better. And every student gets their best score.
 
Eventually the players will grow up and realize not one fan comes to the stadium to see them. They come to see the GT uniform. The players use the school to continue playing a kids game with the low percentage hope they get drafted. Fine. The fans use the players for a 4 hour block of entertainment during the fall weekends. Fine. They certainly don’t care about the fans and I really don’t care about the player in the uniform. That’s just the reality of NIL, the portal, and the real world. Eventually the players will be sitting in the stands doing the same thing we are and they’ll realize Collins used them to make millions while destroying their college career.
 
OptionJacket said:
Caralla should have just said thanks for giving me and job and easy money. He’ll be gone next year too. Every person on this staff should be gone. Seriously, we are a joke until the next coach gets here.
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Fair enough.
 
Akinji07 said:
18-22 year olds rushed the beaches of France and defeated Hitler. @GT flunkout and I were talking about this on our way to Ole Miss game. The biggest problem we have as a society today come from considering people kids until they turn 30. And our problems specific to football, a game of war and attrition, are also because our coaching staff treated them like kids. This was a major disservice to them. I’m not blaming them for being upset that he’s gone because they went through most of their career being shielded by Collins and they’re not going to get it until someone teaches them differently or professional life hits them in the face.
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Let's start by not calling them "kids". Never understood that.
 
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