Last in the Coastal

GT65_UGA89 said:
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I've been around since Billy Lothridge and if we lose the last 3, this might be the most disappointing team in those 54 years, considering we started in the top 20. However, the year is not over. If we can win a couple more or beat UGA, the year is just something to build on.
 
OP has been around since 2001. You'd think someone that has been around that long wouldn't be such a dumbass.
 
coit said:
OP has been around since 2001. You'd think someone that has been around that long wouldn't be such a dumbass.
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Lots of things have changed over the course of StingTalk's existence but not once have we ever been short on idiots.
 
OP is a joke. And not like a "haha funny" joke. I mean an angry, delusional person kind of joke. It must suck to hate a coach so much that you prevent yourself from enjoying a historic season last year because it defeats your preconceived notion that CPJ will never lead this team to greatness.

Nobody is happy with this season, but most of us are grounded enough to realize that 30 years of PJ coaching history tell a lot more about who he is than one bad season with 1000 reasons why we SHOULD BE bad.
 
andrew said:
I guess. Maybe I'm just too influenced by the crap we had before Roof got here.

In previous years, we would have killed for a defense for which "didn't come to play" meant giving up 27 points.

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At no point in the Johnson era has 21 points been a great offensive output, esp. against a craptacular team like UVA. Or Puke, for that matter.

This season is a collective crapfest on both sides of the ball and has made 2014 look like a distant, fluky memory.
 
BackstreetBuzz said:
I've been around since Billy Lothridge and if we lose the last 3, this might be the most disappointing team in those 54 years, considering we started in the top 20. However, the year is not over. If we can win a couple more or beat UGA, the year is just something to build on.
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We've certainly got the talent to beat the mutts, as bad as we are. The mutts and Richt are absolutely pathetic this year.

Really, this year's pack of dumb #@#gs is typical of Richt-coached teams. If we cut their nuts off, Richt should get fired. He's taken that collection of asshole players and fans as far as he will ever take 'em.
 
NatiJacket said:
Our school is a 6-7 win program over the long haul. Paul Jonhsons record at GT is not only above the average, it's also the best of any coach since Bobby Dodd, 50+ years ago.
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Truth. If you think there is a better coach we can hire and get to stay here for the long haul please let us know. Tech will never be a consistent top 10 team just because the nature of the school and how Tech doesn't have underwater basket weaving for majors.

This year sucks, but guess what it's football. Our team has been plagued with bad luck/injuries. Get back on the ledge if we only win 3 games next year, because then I'll be with you.

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I'm pretty sure OP was the one who really wanted to hire Terry Bowden to replace CCG.

As CPJ said, the last team to win the national championship without an 80k stadium was GT in 1990. It's not just GT that has had issues. Look around the country and you don't find many schools with 55k stadiums winning 10 games every year.

Hell, look at Gary Patterson and TCU. I'm sure TCU will be used as an example of how a school like Tech can be good.

But Patterson went 4-8 in 2013. If it's bad for CPJ to go 3-6 in his 8th year, that was Patterson's 13th year. Patterson is a really good coach, but even for him, not having Bama-like recruiting classes can catch up to him with a season of bad luck and injuries.

Unless somebody has absolutely no grounding in reality and sets their expectations based on five straight Tech championships in NCAA 2013, it makes no sense to fire CPJ. Look at the alternative candidates in 2009. 9/10 candidates (Charlie Strong being the exception) have been fired.
 
floridajacket said:
I'm pretty sure OP was the one who really wanted to hire Terry Bowden to replace CCG.

As CPJ said, the last team to win the national championship without an 80k stadium was GT in 1990. It's not just GT that has had issues. Look around the country and you don't find many schools with 55k stadiums winning 10 games every year.

Hell, look at Gary Patterson and TCU. I'm sure TCU will be used as an example of how a school like Tech can be good.

But Patterson went 4-8 in 2013. If it's bad for CPJ to go 3-6 in his 8th year, that was Patterson's 13th year. Patterson is a really good coach, but even for him, not having Bama-like recruiting classes can catch up to him with a season of bad luck and injuries.

Unless somebody has absolutely no grounding in reality and sets their expectations based on five straight Tech championships in NCAA 2013, it makes no sense to fire CPJ. Look at the alternative candidates in 2009. 9/10 candidates (Charlie Strong being the exception) have been fired.
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Great post. This is my feeling exactly.
 
H-town said:
PJ needs to be on the hot seat for this. He has the UGA game to win back my support. But this has been, except for last year, par for the course. This is a typical Paul Johnson year and is where we have been trending.

1. Thomas has regressed to the point that he is a third string QB. For every good play he makes there are two or three head scratchers that are WTF plays. Last year he had the talent around him to hide those mistakes. This year they are glaringly obvious. The fumble on the 20 and the overthrow for a touchdown this game. Taking us out of FG range against FSU. Not pretty.

Thomas has regressed. Mostly because no one around him can block and he freaks out.

2. The OL remind me of the poon squad from a few years back. A bunch of ankle biters. Utterly embarrassing.

Yup.

2. ABs can't block. Young bunch but that still isn't an excuse.

Yup. "Young bunch" is more of an explanation than an excuse. Man we are really missing Snoddy and Dennis Andrews.

3. WRs just can't seem to catch. If Jeune and Summers are starters then we have some serious problems at the spot. We really miss Smelter here.

WTF? Jeune, Summers, and Stewart have been money. I seriously doubt they drop any more passes than receivers on other teams. The throws have been poor at times, but that is thanks to the offensive line failing and a few bad plays by Thomas.

4. Skov looks like Tarzan. Plays like Jane.

Skov does ok. Not a homerun threat, but gets tough yards. He would be doing much better if the offensive line did their jobs.

This season is not Roofs fault. His D plays. This is all on PJ and his crappy offense. How is it that every person on offense looks like they haven't been coached one bit after high school. That was a bunch of high school players I saw running around today. Embarrassing.

Last in the coastal is what we deserve. We are no better than that.
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PJ and his crappy offense? Last season we were literally the most efficient offense ever recorded:
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/feioff2014

One season of poor offense out of 8 does not make the scheme or coach crappy. If we had a decent defense in 2009 or 2014 we would have been in the national championship picture. In 2010-2013 a decent defense was probably enough to win the conference.

This offense has execution problems. It is appropriate to hold the coaching staff responsible for these problems. But there are obvious mitigating factors. Part of it is replacing all our skill players with young guys and part of it is injuries. I don't really have an explanation for the offensive line. They are the number 1 reason we are sucking, and there is a lot of experience there. For a while I had thought that Sewak needed to go, but then we put together a decent line in 2014. Was that luck? Have the injuries been too much this year? Was Shaq really that important? I don't think losing Shaq explains it because his replacement is Shamire who is probably our best lineman right now. I have never seen pass blocking this bad, and there are a ton of missed assignments when we run the ball.

The only thing I might blame Johnson for at the end of the season is not firing Sewak.
 
johncu said:
OP is a joke. And not like a "haha funny" joke. I mean an angry, delusional person kind of joke. It must suck to hate a coach so much that you prevent yourself from enjoying a historic season last year because it defeats your preconceived notion that CPJ will never lead this team to greatness.

Nobody is happy with this season, but most of us are grounded enough to realize that 30 years of PJ coaching history tell a lot more about who he is than one bad season with 1000 reasons why we SHOULD BE bad.
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I never said that I hope PJ doesn't win. I hope he wins every game. He's the coach of GT and I want us to win every game every year. I know that's not possible so I hope to see us improve as the year progresses. I want to see us play fundamentally sound, i.e. tackling, blocking well, catch the ball, play tough, etc. I don't see that in any aspect of the game. This is a badly coached team...you can't say anything except that. It is badly coached, which is why we are last in the Coastal. And except for last year and his first year, it's been a downward spiral. Except for last year and 2008, every year has been on par with Chan, and we fired him. And this year will be much worse than Chan's worst year. Think about that for a while.

Two years ago I was at the UGA game and his clock management at the end cost us the game. We could have done a lot more with a 2 minute offense, but he played to not to lose and go to OT. Wrong decision and it cost us the game.

You're only as good as your record. And our record blows. Just beat UGA.
 
Rodzilla said:
"You're only as good as your record"

ignores 11-3 record
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Before last season started, PJ was on the hot seat. Last year saved his job. I guess one year of excellence is all it takes for some of you to line up to fluff his nuts before bedtime (Coit would be first in line).

Hell, even the TV announcers were talking about how PJ needed to learn how to play chess, not checkers.
 
H-town said:
Before last season started, PJ was on the hot seat. Last year saved his job. I guess one year of excellence is all it takes for some of you to line up to fluff his nuts before bedtime (Coit would be first in line).

Hell, even the TV announcers were talking about how PJ needed to learn how to play chess, not checkers.
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If you want to identify with the TV talking heads then I guess that makes sense.

I ain't gonna fluff his nuts but I am going to sit back and recognize that this season is a clusteröööö of injuries and inexperience. CPJ was saying it before the season even started but nobody wanted to accept that we are in a rebuilding year.

Anyone that can't see that is just an idiot.
 
BarrelORum said:
This. This and This some more. Some of y'all act like perennial champ is right around the corner with any other coach. We have more of a possibility of being a perennial doormat with any other coach. Our margin for error in coaching is next to nil at GT. If you don't understand that, then you aren't paying attention.
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This squares with my experience. Sadly, but it is what it has always been.
floridajacket said:
I'm pretty sure OP was the one who really wanted to hire Terry Bowden to replace CCG.

As CPJ said, the last team to win the national championship without an 80k stadium was GT in 1990. It's not just GT that has had issues. Look around the country and you don't find many schools with 55k stadiums winning 10 games every year.

Hell, look at Gary Patterson and TCU. I'm sure TCU will be used as an example of how a school like Tech can be good.

But Patterson went 4-8 in 2013. If it's bad for CPJ to go 3-6 in his 8th year, that was Patterson's 13th year. Patterson is a really good coach, but even for him, not having Bama-like recruiting classes can catch up to him with a season of bad luck and injuries.

Unless somebody has absolutely no grounding in reality and sets their expectations based on five straight Tech championships in NCAA 2013, it makes no sense to fire CPJ. Look at the alternative candidates in 2009. 9/10 candidates (Charlie Strong being the exception) have been fired.
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Plus eleventy-billion
 
coit said:
CPJ was saying it before the season even started but nobody wanted to accept that we are in a rebuilding year.

Anyone that can't see that is just an idiot.
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I don't agree with HTown but let's keep it real. Provide Quotes because the above statement is revisionist history.
 
Downward spiral that is on par with Chan (where CPJ would have started).

In this downward spiral we are 1-1 in the Orange bowl. We have finished first in our division 4 out of 8 years. We have been to the ACCCG 3 times which is tied for best in our division. We have a winning record against Clemson. We are even against top 10 teams. Were are 2-2 in Athens. We are 3-3 against FSU. We are 2-2 at Uva. The only place we have regressed relative to Chan is against Miami.

This year blows. We are showing a complete lack of depth and look bad on offense for the first time under CPJ. Yes, the OL needs fixing and that is on CPJ. The OL has looked bad for years. If it was a DC that performed like Sewak, he would have been axed in year 2.

The freshmen are getting better. They play like freshmen. The DL needs to perform better without Gotsis, because he is gone after this year.

The receivers look like they have good hands and are starting to block better. They need to work on routes.

JT5 needs to stop trying to make highlight plays and take what the D is giving. He finally started stepping up into the pocket in the 2nd half of the UVa game (when we started to rack up pass yards). That is something he will see on film.
 
coit said:
If you want to identify with the TV talking heads then I guess that makes sense.

I ain't gonna fluff his nuts but I am going to sit back and recognize that this season is a clusteröööö of injuries and inexperience. CPJ was saying it before the season even started but nobody wanted to accept that we are in a rebuilding year.

Anyone that can't see that is just an idiot.
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In all fairness, if you ever listened to PJ in the preseason you'd think all our seasons would go like this one has.
 
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